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Cocaine What can you safely combine with cocaine or amphetamines to calm the anxiety

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rapidbadger

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Benzos and z drugs work really well, they lower your heart rate and expand your blood vessels well which is a plus but they mess you up in the long run so best only to use them for emergencies. I used to use amphetamines in the past and never could find anything else that worked. Actually GHB and phenibut work really well but they're not so accessible.

Alcohol doesn't work for me because it blocks the positive effects of the stimulants, like the focus, productivity and cognitive enhancement.

Do you know anything else that works good for this? What about baclofen or gabapentin? I hear they null the effects of the stimulants too.

N-acetylcysteine helps strangely enough, it seems to restore the positive effects which means less anxiety.
 
taking smaller doses of stimulants would help the most for sure

the occasional benzo is fine - if course if you are looking to take the edge of stims more than once (maybe twice ) a week then benzos would become problematic

all that noradrenalin from cocaine use is difficult to manage re anxious feels - what always worked the best for me if benzos unsuitable was breathing techniques which stimulate parasympathetic nervous system

one would think betablockers may help, but there seems to be lot of controversy anbd arguments regarding efficacy and safety of the combination, so you'd be advised to unterake research befpore diving into those
 
ageingpartyfiend said:
taking smaller doses of stimulants would help the most for sure

the occasional benzo is fine - if course if you are looking to take the edge of stims more than once (maybe twice ) a week then benzos would become problematic

all that noradrenalin from cocaine use is difficult to manage re anxious feels - what always worked the best for me if benzos unsuitable was breathing techniques which stimulate parasympathetic nervous system

one would think betablockers may help, but there seems to be lot of controversy anbd arguments regarding efficacy and safety of the combination, so you'd be advised to unterake research befpore diving into those
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I feel like I’ve read something lately about beta blockers not being as ‘safe’ to use with stimulants as well. I can’t remember where I came across that though.

I believe clonidine is fairly harmless.. I’m prescribed that, along with adderall. But I’d do more research on that as well..

I 100% agree with using smaller doses. I couldn’t always (ever) follow my own advice, but I always had a better time when I used less, spaced out.
 
pixies+ said:
I feel like I’ve read something lately about beta blockers not being as ‘safe’ to use with stimulants as well. I can’t remember where I came across that though.

I believe clonidine is fairly harmless.. I’m prescribed that, along with adderall. But I’d do more research on that as well..

I 100% agree with using smaller doses. I couldn’t always (ever) follow my own advice, but I always had a better time when I used less, spaced out.
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takes people (me for one) decades to suss out that lower doses of stims are actually better in most ways
 
ageingpartyfiend said:
takes people (me for one) decades to suss out that lower doses of stims are actually better in most ways
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Agreed!!

I’m someone who is unable to use stimulants, mainly cocaine, in a ‘reasonable’ way. The go big or go home mentality always takes over. And that’s when the inevitable crash and burn, hard and fast, would take place.
but before that happened, I really did have great times.
 
pixies+ said:
Agreed!!

I’m someone who is unable to use stimulants, mainly cocaine, in a ‘reasonable’ way. The go big or go home mentality always takes over. And that’s when the inevitable crash and burn, hard and fast, would take place.
but before that happened, I really did have great times.
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It's the nature of the beast though eh

The only way for me in the end was to make sure I had NO WAY of getting anymore than what I had allocated myself for the night.

Vivid memories of digging the fucking garden up for a buried stash while dawn was breaking half dressed and covered in sweat and god-knows-what, praying no neighbour was up early. Shudder.
 
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Vivid memories of digging the fucking garden up for a buried stash while dawn was breaking half dressed and covered in sweat and god-knows-what, praying no neighbour was up early. Shudder.
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I’m laughing… but with you. I spent many hours going through bags and pockets looking for things I knew didn’t actually exist.

Things took a very bad turn once I went the IV route. I did many questionable things with my own shit … I’m lucky I never ended up with anything worse than a couple minor abbesses in the crooks of my arms.

I also shudder when I look back into those old behaviours. I thank my lucky stars that I don’t live like that anymore.
 
Many combinations with those stimulants don't work super well, and they just cause other side effects to take hold.

But in the past some things that helped me to take the edge off, that are still relatively chill/safe, would be kratom, kava, gabapentin/pregabalin, or as mentioned above ^^^ clonidine. All of those things have their uses, and definitely make sure you know how each individual substance effects you personally before deciding to combine them.
 
Taking smaller doses of (like 80%+ purity) coke is way better than larger ones. If you do not use it regularly. The problem is that when you realise that the small dose feels great, you can then afford to do it more often and you can convince yourself that it’s OK because you are not taking so much. However, fast forward a couple of months you need significantly more to get the same effect and it is a really shit habit to kick from an emotional/psychological perspective.

If you can control yourself find some actually good stuff and buy tiny quantities. Like .1. And few days between each use. I think you are in the sweet spot but that’s a hard place to stay. I always found taking one Valium with it was fine but would not recommend this as it is supposed to be dangerous.
 
gotta really properly dose when it comes to stims. particularly with amphetamine its easy to go into overdrive
 
Smaller doses for sure are key. I tried gabapentin and it works. Really takes the edge of the anxiety. That and magnesium and NAC.
 
The gabapentin really adds something to it. I feel really focused and alert. But it won't help me sleep. But still it is pretty amazing how it combines, theres clearly a synergy there.
 
rapidbadger said:
Benzos and z drugs work really well, they lower your heart rate and expand your blood vessels well which is a plus but they mess you up in the long run so best only to use them for emergencies. I used to use amphetamines in the past and never could find anything else that worked. Actually GHB and phenibut work really well but they're not so accessible.

Alcohol doesn't work for me because it blocks the positive effects of the stimulants, like the focus, productivity and cognitive enhancement.

Do you know anything else that works good for this? What about baclofen or gabapentin? I hear they null the effects of the stimulants too.

N-acetylcysteine helps strangely enough, it seems to restore the positive effects which means less anxiety.
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Agree with benzodizapenes
 
Yes, benzos definitely work. Contrary to what the mainstream says, mixing this kinda downer with stimulants will actually keep you alive. They will stop you having heart attacks and strokes and seizures. I hear barbiturates do the same. So I tried phenobarbital but it doesn't have much anti anxiety effect. Although the dose was very low.

I tried gabapentin but it doesn't work so well. Baclofen works but I get a weird paradoxical reaction with GABA B agonist. GHB and phenibut are amazing for reversing anxiety and stimulation. What used to happen with me was day 1 I could use them together. But the second day I would get weird effects. Same with z drugs. Day one fine. Day two I start to feel really sick, nausea and weird effects. Benzos don't do that. I could never mix opiates, the combination makes me feel sick. For Comedowns all these things work amazing. But you can use anything for Comedowns. Antipsychotics, TCAs, mirtazapine, things you wouldn't mix with stimulants.

Ketamine can actually use with stimulants but it changes the effects so much that you can't be so productive on them.
 
Benzodiazepines- Diazepam (Valium) 30-40mg - Alprazolam (Xanax) 2mg bar - Lorazepam (Ativan) 2-3mg

Clonidine 0.1mg - before night…..not directly while high on stimulants…..only Benzo while spun

Pragabalin 300mg - amazing anxiolytic properties, combined with Benzo’s……Clonidine 0.1mg only 5-6 hours after comedown few hours before bed

According to body weight, fasted stated (empty stomach) and previous/current tolerance
 
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all good options above, just be careful of rising dosage/tolerance when mixing benzos and stims since they can counteract eachother. depends on the benzo as well, some will not directly help anxiety and have some delusion of sobriety effect, which can easily lead to redosing unnecessarily.
smaller doses + supplements like magnesium and being well hydrated/fed will have a big primary impact in lessening side effects and general enjoyment
 
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