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What book are you currently reading?

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The Great Game by Peter Hopkirk. It's the story of the competition between Czarist Russia and the Brits for conrol of territory in Central Asia. It reads like a spy thriller because that's basically what was going on there. Neither the Brits or the Russians knew jack about the ancient kingdoms along the spice trade routes in Central Asia, and the indigenous rulers and peoples were not so hot on the whiteys coming in and trying to scam them out of their possessions.

It's very good. For one, it helps you understand the Middle East as it exists today, which is a result of British map drawing in the end days of World War I. It's a really interesting, sometimes thrilling read (maybe a little too "colorful" for "true historians"), and it describes the failure of both the British and the Russians in their quest to "subdue" Afghanistan so its quite relevant to our current situation.

Side note: there's a great marker in Afghanistan, very much like the one in Vilnius erected after Napoleon's big Russian mistake. The one is Vilnius reads: (I'm sorry I've read the figures dozens of times but I can't seem to find the citation right now.) It roughly read: On this date September X, 1812, Napoleon passed this spot with 500,000 soldiers, On January 4, he passed this way with 700 men.) The marker in Afghanistan reads "On this site, "350,700 British soldiers passed this site. On X date, 500 British soldiers returned." Apparently you can still see the bones of a lot of the British Victorian soldiers in the Khyber Pass. I'm sorry about the lack of specificity figures I cited. I don't have the time right now to look up the exact wording of the memorials, but the point of the quotes is, I believe, communicated. It's a drag I can't find the exact language right now because Ive just encountered it so frequently in the books I've been reading lately. Maybe someone can help me out?

A good follow up is A Peace to End All Peace that focusses on Britain's role in the formation of the Middle East as we now know it. Read it and you'll understand how a lot of misconceptions and ignorance combined to put us in the situation that we're in today. It's not just about oil. It really grew from the western desire to grab what they could out of the disintegrating Ottoman Empire.
 
The Kid said:
A lot of what Michael Moore says is absolute bollocks. The one about 9/11 (I can't remember the name) was one of the biggest loads of shite i have ever had the misfortune to waste my time reading!!

He's a proper c u next tuesday. :)
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Stupid White Men is an excellent book. Yes he has a one sided take on the American way, but IMO it's the opinion of someone who actually cares about the average citizen (def cares more than the priveleged elite who are the most arrogant, selfish fuckwits you'd ever want to meet)
 
fastandbulbous said:
Stupid White Men is an excellent book. Yes he has a one sided take on the American way, but IMO it's the opinion of someone who actually cares about the average citizen (def cares more than the priveleged elite who are the most arrogant, selfish fuckwits you'd ever want to meet)
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And you think the multi-millionaire Moore is not an arrogant fuckwit?
 
No, I think he actually does a reasonable job of being an American Jiminy Cricket (you must have seen 'Pinnocchio' :D). I have respect for him, if only for 'Bowling for Columbine' as he seems passionate about gun control. In fact I think he's quite genuine about the subjects he tackles - being a millionaire doesn't mean that you don't care. Bill Gates may be a bit of a megalomaniac when it comes to IT & software, but he didn't have to give hundreds of millions to charity, so in the overall balance of things I think he's OK (mind yiou, I still wouldn't touch Vista with a shitty stick for at least another year, minimum =D)
 
I've seen some reports of when he was in London and the staff at the hotels where he was out claimed he was very rude and treated them like shit. I think you are right in that the national topics he discusses are probably very reasonable, it's just when he starts going on about stuff which is blatantly rubbish (like the Bin Laden stuff).

I like Bill Gates and his philantropy. Vista is ok, but I don't test it with too much! :)
 
moore is a joke and IMO takes credibility away from a lot of the causes he's trying to "fight for." i thought bowling for columbine was alright except all the stupid sentimental shit and trying to acheive something by confusing an alzheimers ridden charlton heston. fahrenheit was the sorriest excuse for a docu i'd seen in a while, might as well have just had an hour and a half of someone violently weeping over their lost soldier-child with "no blood for oil" occasionally flashing on the screen.

anyway atm I'm reading

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a look back on hunter s thompson's life by someone who actually knew him well, between this and the new gonzo documentary it's really shown me a different (a vunerable caring and sometimes even malevolent) side to hunter which has helped me to see the man behind the legend.
 
looks interestin that, might order it tomorrow

i'm readin powder wars by graham johnson atm, is pretty interesting, only about half way through tho cos i'm lazy and it's due back at library soon >=|
 
I love David Ickes books, full of so much nonsense some of them but also some very intersting and factual stuff. He's mental. :D
 
Shambles said:
And anyone that disagrees with his theories is clearly either a space-reptile, Illuminati or a shadowy New World Order character. Probably all three.
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Shambles you are a bilderberg shill!
 
TheSpade said:
I love David Ickes books, full of so much nonsense some of them but also some very intersting and factual stuff. He's mental. :D
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The fact that he drinks "Tennants Super" has actually increased my admiration for the man.

I mean nobody who drinks that stuff can ever be found on a park bench near you, blabbering on about all and sundry , can they ? =D
 
Currently reading Stephen Kings book Dreamcatcher, pretty interesting read, and it's got me glued. Just purely because of the way he's telling effectively 3/4 stories as once, which i'm presuming will all come togethor in the end.
 
The fact that he drinks "Tennants Super" has actually increased my admiration for the man.
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Does he? :D

No wonder he's always talking shit.

In various European countries Tennants Super is packaged and sold as a respectable high strength lager, it's in a nice bottle with fancy labels etc.
 
TheSpade said:
Does he? :D

No wonder he's always talking shit.

In various European countries Tennants Super is packaged and sold as a respectable high strength lager, it's in a nice bottle with fancy labels etc.
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http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=6860946590182985661

You see him drinking (and enjoying) it at home in front of his kids in this documentary :D

Although this could be a ruse for the cameras, because its just a bit too obvious innit? Possible that he was just playing upto the crazy park bencher stereotype for the cameras.

Or maybe he just likes to get pissed.

Ayahuasca to Tennants Super, the man is certainly on a journey.
 
I'm still reading Choke, I'm such a slow reader. :|

I'm struggling to get into it actually, but I will finish it, eventually.

I picked up Sarah, by JT Leroy the other day for £3. I really enjoyed the film (The Heart Is Deceitful Above All Things), so thought I'd snap it up.

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It's pretty short too, so it's perfect for my attention span. :)
 
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