Opioids what am i doin wrong? oxycodone

[pbrownz]

Well a few years ago I was able to get my hands of 60 mg of oxycodone. It was my first time doing it and i didnt know what to expect. I was very impatient at the time so i ended up railing the 60 mg over like 20 minutes or something. I left my house to go to my buddies and got sick right before i got into his house. I sat on his couch and experienced an amazing euphoria.

during the past 4 or 5 months I grabbed some more oxys to try to relive that experience. Each time was a higher dose than my first (80 mg then 120), and each time, I didnt get close at all to the feeling I experienced my first time using the drug. The one reason I think this has been happening, is because I have been spanning the drug out over a larger period of time while using it, but thats only because ive had higher doses.

Can anyone offer any insight into this? Is it simply because I am not doing it at the same rate I had my first time? because ive read lots where people suggest doing it over an extended period of time rather than all at once.

ive wasted to much money on it for nothing and Im thinking to just forget about using it again, since there really is nothing i gain from it. Im also assuming I have a naturally high tolerance considering these amounts arent giveng the desired effects.

 

[mdmantpa]

well consuming it over a timespan is going to lessen the height of the experience but prolong the length, the quicker you get the total amount in to your body the stronger the initial rush/peak will be

 

[brutus]

I've had this same problem with Oxycontin for the past few weeks and the only thing that helped it was going through withdrawal and then using it once I felt normal again.

The euphoria seems to fade with any drug because your body gets used to the effects. Sure, you will be high, but you won't feel that amazing IME.

Consume it all at once, orally, after crushing it up as fine as humanly possible for best results. IV oxy isn't worth it to me.

 

[phr]

First off, I hope you're opiate tolerant with those doses.

But yes, it's probably the way you're taking it. (But there could be other factors, too.)

With opiates, experienced users use as much as possible in one dose. Re-dosing, especially over a long amount of time, doesn't produce the same peak and effect strength. It does prolong, though. So, the buzz from taking 80mg at once is going to be stronger than the buzz from two 40 mg's taken a couple hours apart.
The thing is, pushing the envelope like that increases the OD risk. So you want to know what you have, your tolerance, and make sure you're using around others than can seek help if things don't go well.


As for other factors that can affect your high, well, it could be the environment and/or the fact that it was your first time taking the drug.

 

[Justatemyoxys]

It's nothing your doing wrong. You'll always be chasing that feeling from your first time being really high. I've been prescribed opiates for a couple years now and to get the best affect I usually take 3/4 of my desired dose orally and the other 1/4 straight up the sniffer. You get that rush but also the high is longer and more of a body buzz from dosing orally. Read up on pontentiators too they help quite a bit. Be safe and be smart.

 

[HighonLife]

Im thinking to just forget about using it again, since there really is nothing i gain from it..

this is good thinkin right here

many a life has been changed/destroyed/lost, tryin to recreate that 1st feelin

 

[Provoke]

Here's my insight. Oxycodone was designed to relieve severe pain when used in amounts of around 10-20 mg.

What you are doing wrong is that you are taking 60mg in a single shot when nothing bothers you.

 

[Captain.Heroin]

Can anyone offer any insight into this? Is it simply because I am not doing it at the same rate I had my first time? because ive read lots where people suggest doing it over an extended period of time rather than all at once.

You said you had a good experience on your buddy's couch. Well, environmental tolerance probably has something to do with this.

When you get high in the same place, a certain tolerance is created due to your body sensing you are about to use drugs.

Try getting high in another/new environment (one you haven't previously used in before). This might help.

 

[jamesBrown]

^^^what he said

 

[bronson]

this is good thinkin right here

many a life has been changed/destroyed/lost, tryin to recreate that 1st feelin

qft. If you are no longer getting anything desirable out of it, don't mess around with something so addictive. Just because you aren't getting the extreme euphoria by no means makes you immune from the addiction and eventual problems that come along with withdrawal.

 

[avcpl]

You said you had a good experience on your buddy's couch. Well, environmental tolerance probably has something to do with this.

When you get high in the same place, a certain tolerance is created due to your body sensing you are about to use drugs.
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I've always wondered about this, because for me it works just the opposite. When I'm prepping and using in the same environment, I start getting a rush from the anticipation and I'm feeling high before I even take anything--so I end up needing to use LESS not more.

 

[Jabberwocky]

^here's an interesting article on environmental tolerance. it certainly is an intriguing topic!

what you described is a perfect example of environmental tolerance.

Environment Contributes To Drug Tolerance

ScienceDaily (Oct. 12, 2000) — COLLEGE STATION - Tolerance is a major aspect of drug addiction, and one Texas A&M University psychologist believes the setting in which drugs are taken can be just as big a contributor to developing a tolerance as the drugs themselves.

For more than a decade, Texas A&M psychologist Antonio Cepeda-Benito has studied how learning facilitates the development of tolerance, and he says the environment in which a drug is consumed plays a large role in the drug's effects.

"If the same amount of a drug is administered in one context and later in another different and distinct context, then the effects of the drug are different," Cepeda-Benito says. "The drug has a much greater effect in a novel context rather than in a context that is associated with the administered drug."

Cepeda-Benito, who has studied morphine and nicotine's effects, terms this phenomenon "learned tolerance," and says gradual desensitization to a drug can be developed not only by repeated use of the drug, but also through a learning process that involves recognizing the environment.

In other words, a person consuming a drug in a setting where he or she usually consumes the drug or even expects to consume it will be less likely to feel the full effects of the drug, he says. However, if that same person takes the same amount of the drug in a setting where he or she doesn't normally take the drug, then the person is likely to feel a greater effect from the drug.

He says a familiar context can mean any familiar environment and/or actions, as well as timing. He also notes that the longer the interval between episodes, the greater the chance is of developing a learned tolerance.

Cepeda-Benito says this could possibly explain some drug overdoses in which the person didn't take a greater amount of the drug, but instead, took the drug in an unfamiliar setting, making the term "overdose" a misnomer.

"These are physiological changes mediated by psychological aspects," he says.

Much like a butcher working in a meat freezer who isn't affected by the cold while at work but can feel cold at home, Cepeda-Benito says, the body, over time, begins to prepare itself, through learning, for the environment it is used to consuming the drugs in, resulting in a lessening of the drug's effects.

"This is important because we know that tolerance is a symptom of drug dependence, and when you become tolerant to a drug, then you need to take more of the drug to get the effect you want," Cepeda-Benito says. "The more of the drug you take, the more physiologically dependent you become."

from - http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2000/10/001012074704.htm