Went Unconscious for Five Minutes After Taking Delsym 12 Hour Extended-Release

[Reibtoirurinabi]

On May 21st I took not even the entire Delsym 5 mL extended-release and went unconscious/had a seizure/coma/lost oxygen to the brain/fainted/blacked out for a good 5 minutes they said. Didn't even have any effects after I took it (never had a trip from it at all), but then dizziness/light-headedness/nausea hit me and that was the last thing I remember. The people with me said I was snoring while unconscious. And when my eyes were open they were pinpoint pupils and didn't respond to light. When I woke up finally my vision was blurred and double, could hardly walk, felt like I had to vomit, nauseated, disorientation, confusion and the symptoms I have now.

Such as:

Continual ringing in my ears, missing sensation in arms and legs, reduced mental ability for thinking, my short-term memory fades extremely quick, feel deadened/numbed to life, deafness of hearing.

constant struggle for clarity
pressure in head/tensed brain sensation (before the brain felt silent of sensation)
constant ringing/buzzing in brain
loss of sensation in arms and legs when still when walking or sitting
daze feeling constant
lose thought tracts easily
loss of memory of thoughts, feelings
difficult remembering how i thought before
deafness in hearing in both ears (when i chew i feel more deaf)
amnesia of before it happened
not making new memories well
difficulty doing abstract thinking
don't feel as conscious
music not enjoyable or as striking, tempo of music is different
left ear feels more deaf/more ringing
brain feels deaf
feel more dead/numb to life
don't feel as real/sensitive to life stimuli/emotion conjuration/feeling conjuration/thought conjuration
thinking recall diminished/mental abilities feel more one-dimensional
struggle to feel normal/feel like me
don't feel as grounded in the body while in motion, like on a swing - feels like my mind is more wobbley from my body
intellect feels diminished
spelling words i knew how to spell correctly wrong
feel like my entire aliveness has just become more contained to the clarity of my vision, with my mind not taking part in what's seen with feelings/thoughts/sensations/emotions, etc.
have to surround myself with activity/motion/talking/happenings to feel more normal
difficulty achieving ejaculation
nerve sensation in penis when stroked is diminished
orgasm nearly devoid of pleasure
pain sensation while ejaculating that wasn't there before
life feels less real
legs and arms feel lighter
when jumping nerve sensation in feet is deadened
pressure/tensed brain sensation fluctuates in severity
taste is more dull/deadened
reduced ability for concentration/attention
brain feels deaf to processing life
brain slowness of recall and ability

I've noticed that drugs I try after the unconsciousness have muted effects. As if the damage to the brain is extensive enough to limit the effects of drugs. Maybe I got Olney's Lesions.

 

[sekio]

Olneys lesions have never been found in humans.

That sounds to me like the effects of a rather high dose DXM experience.

If you think this is causing you problems in life then see a doctor or neurologist, we can't help you very much.

 

[Thorns Have Roses]

Sounds like a high dose DXM experience.

As for your lasting symptoms, does this sound like what you've been experiencing: derealization and depersonalization?

I'd pin them as psychological, whenever people have changes in thought patterns after psychs they're so quick to jump to brain damage without evidence...Well maybe physiology has something to do with it, in any case, I recommend abstaining from all drugs, eating healthily and exercising, and see if there isn't improvement over the next two or three months.

These sorts of dissociative symptoms, related anxiety, etc. are serious issues, don't get me wrong, and it's unusual to develop them after just one experience, but they're not unheard of in dissociative (/psychedelic) users. You should certainly seek medical (whether neurological or psychiatric) help if you feel you need it.

 

[Reibtoirurinabi]

Yeah, I'm 100% sure it's not depersonalization or derealization. This is physiological. I have no dissociative symptoms or anxiety. And I never had an experience from it. The first thing I noticed was the light-headed/dizziness/nausea and then went unconscious, when I woke up it didn't feel like being high, but like an overdose or something else serious.

 

[sekio]

You had an experience, whether or not it was a textbook DXM trip is another question.

Either you had a stroke (unlikely, but visible on MRI) or you're suffering from standard HPPD-type aftereffects of a disorienting DXM experience. Lots of people get these symptoms, as NNB pointed out. Almost none of them have any gross pathological changes in brain function.

 

[Thorns Have Roses]

This is physiological.

Did a medical professional tell you that, and give you the best treatment/management options they could, and if so why didn't you tell us? If not, then don't say it isn't psychological for sure. And most of your lasting issues sound EXACTLY like dissociative symptoms, the way you've put'em.

Nothing about your description of what happened in the experience itself seemed out of place for what large amounts of DXM can do to a man, even if it wasn't a paint-by-numbers normative experience (inexperience with the drug can account for this, first times tend to be weird). You could have some kind issue that contraindicates recreational DXM usage. Have you used it successfully before? Do your relevant CYP450 enzymes function normally? Were you on any kind of other medication/drugs/supplements at the time?.

 

[TheAzo]

Could you clarify what dose of DXM you took? It's not clear to me from your original post - it sounds like you took 5ml (ie, 30mg of DXM, ie, a therapeutic dose), but I'm not sure I'm reading it right.

 

[Reibtoirurinabi]

It wasn't my first time. I've done DXM three times before. Each time I was fine. And the Delysm was the ONLY thing I was on.

I didn't even take the entire 5 mL bottle. I'd guess 3 mL.

I wish it was HPPD but it simply isn't. It sounds psychological to readers, but if they felt it they'd know.

There was no trip/experience. Just dizziness/light-headedness and overdose symptoms. But if you want to call the overdose symptoms after I woke up the trip/experience, fine. Where the trip/experience should have been there was just unconsciousness.

 

[Thorns Have Roses]

I see, well it is a weird ass drug, producing different effects in the same people, at the same dosages, at different times. And psychological symptoms don't necessarily mean HPPD.

If it truly is physical, you're gonna need some professional help to diagnose the problem and come up with the best treatment options. There's nothing we'll be able to do to help. In the meantime, go with the total drug abstinence (try not to even take caffeine daily), healthy food, and exercise routine previously recommended.

 

[sekio]

A bottle of delsym is not 5mL. A single dose out of a bottle of Delsym is 5ml.

If I remember right, the "little" bottles of Delsym are something like 90-120ml, and the "big" family sized ones are 200-250.

At the roots of the problem is the simple fact that DXM is a dissociative anesthetic. Lots of people who overshoot their dose target end up blacking the fuck out for quite a while and don't actually trip.

Lots of people get after-effetcs similar to what you feel after DXM abuse (either single bad trips, or extended doses). I persoanlly think it is more related to DXM's effects as a SNRI drug rather than any dissociative effects. (Yes, DXM works somewhat the same as antidepressants do.)

Really all you can do is treat it symptomatically as HPPD, because I would wager you ten thousand US dollars that your brain won't show any gross histopathological changes compared to the "median" brain. Stop fixating on the negatives and try to work some positivity into your life once more.

Do remember that even in the worst case - a stroke causing serious irreversible damage to brain structure - people recover and live full happy lives.

One bad trip doesn't mean you have to confine yourself to a life of suffering.

 

[TriputoryHeadicine]

Reibtirurinabi,

Throughout the pain, discomfort, and worry- remember to remind yourself of what feels good, of what works (with your "body soul/mind/brain"). Take deep, slow breathes when things get stressful.

Though I'm not licensed to diagnose anythang, I agree with Sekio completely.

Just maintain as you can. I wish you well!

 

[Reibtoirurinabi]

Ah yeah, I had 3 ounces I meant. And the bottle was 5 ounces. Thanks for the epic encouragement of comforting words everyone.