hydrochron
Bluelighter
It's better then drinking and driving. Unless you have some FIRE that you weren't expecting. I think nodding out and driving is fun. You just have to stay awake at stop lights.
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Heroin Weird and scary reaction to H
- Thread starter mikemikemike
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i've had the same thing happen with oxy. i thought i was literally going to pass out and i was afraid to lose consciousness. the feeling was so strong its hard to describe, but i think i was just afraid to embrace the nod or something maybe.
ive definitely had the racing heartbeat and the panic attack about ODing as well. i used to get that quite frequently too.
ive definitely had the racing heartbeat and the panic attack about ODing as well. i used to get that quite frequently too.
I imagine if it's to do with your blood pressure then you could risk blacking out, no? And blacking out (as in dead-weight passing out) on an opiate that causes, rather, strong respiratory depression doesn't sound like a good mix.
I mean i've blacked out on pot (strangely not heroin, meth, coke, etc), i can only imagine how scary getting that "blacking out" feeling after IVing an opiate would be. I suppose i'd think i would be ODing as well.
But I'm hardly adding any useful information... just an opinion on how it must feel.
I mean i've blacked out on pot (strangely not heroin, meth, coke, etc), i can only imagine how scary getting that "blacking out" feeling after IVing an opiate would be. I suppose i'd think i would be ODing as well.
But I'm hardly adding any useful information... just an opinion on how it must feel.
macbrown21
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I never really catch a nod anymore. And when I do I get kinda nervous sometimes like something is wrong. Kinda a panic attack like I was describing before, and my heart starts going so fast it rips me out of my nod in a minute or two. Really sucks now that I think about it actually. Oh well, I'm gonna watch Conan, smoke some green and hopefully catch a nod!
Call Me"PRIEST"
Bluelighter
i get the same thing. my eyes are out of focus. sometimes i have to close one eye.
my wife can tell when i'm high because i can't read the guide on the tv screen. if i'm really high i get double vision.
not the safest way to drive but i never had an accident. well at least not just on dope. once i was so high on xanax and dope i got in three accidents in one day. i worked for a courier service and hit a gaurdrail, a parked car, then on my way home from work i clipped a curb in my own car. the worse part is that i didn't remember any of it. i was in a complete black out state. it scared me so much i got into a methadone program that week and went cold turkey off xanax and dope.
funny thing is that one time while driving home from the methadone clinic in the morning a cop pulled me over, i told him i was taking methadone, he gave me a sobriety test, then took me to the station for a warrent.
another time when i just started my first methadone program, i took my dose with a few xanax, got into a fight with the wife and tried to drive to a friends house. along the way i pulled over to call him. fell out while parked on side of road....woke up to a cop knocking on my window. they took me to station for dui and was surprised i only blew a .02. luckily i have a ton of lawyers in my family and got off on that one.
stuckinaloop
Bluelighter
I used to shoot dope in the car all the time..lost my license now. In retrospect I got lucky so many times that I accidently nodded out, let the car roll forward and bumped someone, or was asleep at a stop light. Mad dumb.
Won't be driving for a solid 7 months.
Ksa
Ex-Bluelighter
Most of these cases are unbelievably often explained by blood sugar levels. You may have had a period where they went down way under 5 mM. Symptoms of hypoglycemia. Grab a chocolate bar next time.
If it's not sugar then it's probably the trash they cut it with. Some people are really creative when it comes to that, in the bad way.
If it's not sugar then it's probably the trash they cut it with. Some people are really creative when it comes to that, in the bad way.
My girl and I did a shot today and the same exact thing happened to us. I first did mine and she just thought i was trippen. I felt like i looked into the sun cuz i couldnt hardly see. Then my heart started to beat really fast and i felt like iwas gonna pass out. It didnt get me loaded at all either. This stuff was alot darker then normal too i noticed. after i settled down she did hers. next thing i know she took it out before she could finish and handed me the outfit and said take this shit. she closed her eyes right away and told me how she felt. scared the shit out of me. felt like i was gonna od or something. but didnt get high. got a lil pins and needles but i hated that i could hardly see and felt so shaky. i wonder what it was. i was also thinking maybe it had to much cut in it. didnt even get me high and normally that connect has some of the best around never been let down by him.
I have something similar happen to me, not on h, but just if my heart speeds up, sometimes even from anxiety. I had to stop doing coke and vyvanse because of it. Sometimes it gets so bad I have to stop smoking cigarettes and drinking caffeine for weeks at a time.I get extremely lightheaded, I get blindspots that vary from minor to completely blind. it feels and looks like when you stand up too fast and the blood rushes from your head, except it can last up to 45 minutes for me. doctors arent sure, they think it has something to do with my premature ventricular contractions and how I will get attacks where my heart stops and resets itself many times in a row, I suppose it slows down my blood flow since it does not pump at the right time and very weakly, although kind of fast. first time it happened I freaked out, I was in class and I went blind, I thought it was going to last forever. Ive been to the emergency room a few times for it, and no one can seem to put their finger on exactly what it is, the pvc's just seem like the best bet.
and my eyes do go out of focus too when I get really loaded, sometimes accompanied by the nods. I have to shake my head if Im driving ( I rarely do drugs while driving, and if I do its only a little on the way back from copping dope just because I can't take the anticipation. but if I go to a friends or party and get blasted, I have to drive home at some point. if I was too fucked to drive I certainly wouldn't). but yeah sometimes it can get a little obnoxious my eyes crossing uncontrollably to the point where I can't read my computer screen and such.
and my eyes do go out of focus too when I get really loaded, sometimes accompanied by the nods. I have to shake my head if Im driving ( I rarely do drugs while driving, and if I do its only a little on the way back from copping dope just because I can't take the anticipation. but if I go to a friends or party and get blasted, I have to drive home at some point. if I was too fucked to drive I certainly wouldn't). but yeah sometimes it can get a little obnoxious my eyes crossing uncontrollably to the point where I can't read my computer screen and such.
Bodder
Bluelighter
People who are taking other substances other than HERION, ?? why mention it, ?? We are on about possible contaminated effects of HEROIN, which here in the UK, is rife, the kids are cutting Z's of H, with Subatex with the heroin, I have proof of this in my urines when I'm on 45mls of methadone, for some weird reason several hours after SMOKING, I whent into serious withdrawls and at first I originally thought it could be the gear but nah,? As time has gone on I realised that following a urine test SUbatex/Suboxe showing in my positive Herion samples, now I want to know how can I avoid this, without testing it, I'd be paying 15 for the tester and 15 quidd to blow my own arm off, WTF this is the UK, and the Ideots are sweriously messing Up the Heroin trade, its been doing my nut.I have been smoking Heroin 15 yrs plus and I remember the gear in the 90' when it didn't melt only a little and still ran in block form on the foil, hell my teeth dont even go black anymore. I'm pist off.
To the OP, I haven't personally IV'ed heroin, though I have snorted, plugged and smoked quite a bit over the past decade and so am pretty familiar with its effects. I haven't IV'ed morphine either, though I have IM'ed pharmaceutical grade morphine a couple of times. From my own experiences, those of friends, and the knowledge I've acquired during the course of my drug using days, I think that 1 or more of 3 possible causes is likely responsible for your reaction:
#1 (most likely the cause IMO) is that you shot up morphine---either morphine has been in your dope all along and you just shot up more than you have in the past, or that for whatever reason your dope contained a large amount of, or just was entirely morphine. IV morphine takes a few minutes to kick in like you described which is unlike heroin. And also heroin doesn't really (as far as I'm aware of) give people a "pins and needles" sensation, while morphine on the other hand is well known for causing a strong "pins and needles" rush for a few minutes after injection.
#2. A cut like benzocaine (sic?) was in your dope which I've heard is somewhat common and can cause increased heartbeat, BP problems, tunnel vision etc...
OR,
#3 Because of either; low blood sugar, being over-tired, having an adverse reaction to a cut in your heroin, having a mild panic attack, simply doing just enough more heroin than you're used to or anything else, you experienced that odd reaction.
But, like I said before, IMO you shot up morphine w/out knowing it, thus explaining the pins and needles, and since you were unaware you were shooting up morphine instead of heroin the effects were weird. (Like when you order a root beer and get orange soda instead or something)
#1 (most likely the cause IMO) is that you shot up morphine---either morphine has been in your dope all along and you just shot up more than you have in the past, or that for whatever reason your dope contained a large amount of, or just was entirely morphine. IV morphine takes a few minutes to kick in like you described which is unlike heroin. And also heroin doesn't really (as far as I'm aware of) give people a "pins and needles" sensation, while morphine on the other hand is well known for causing a strong "pins and needles" rush for a few minutes after injection.
#2. A cut like benzocaine (sic?) was in your dope which I've heard is somewhat common and can cause increased heartbeat, BP problems, tunnel vision etc...
OR,
#3 Because of either; low blood sugar, being over-tired, having an adverse reaction to a cut in your heroin, having a mild panic attack, simply doing just enough more heroin than you're used to or anything else, you experienced that odd reaction.
But, like I said before, IMO you shot up morphine w/out knowing it, thus explaining the pins and needles, and since you were unaware you were shooting up morphine instead of heroin the effects were weird. (Like when you order a root beer and get orange soda instead or something)
Bodder
Bluelighter
Well its been some time now since this post and it was around the great British Heroin drought, okey its got alot better now were mid 2011, and I know that shit was cut with antagonists for me to feel that way, ie Subbies etc.I have and still do not ever recall feeling that way, it was unleasant, and pure Opiates just dont make me feel that way.Maybe when describing pins and needles but in a diff way to what U were thinking, really physched out ive been on Suibatex and Suboxone even with methadone in my system to know about it and its funny now the droughts pretty much over and glad them horrid feelings have subsided.