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No? Someone's weight is currently in "gain mode", to be gentle. They increase their expenditure / decrease their intake - somehow that *automatically* makes a caloric deficit?

It does not. It MAY, but not necessarily.

Better stated as: Losing weight is simple as expending more calories than you consume.
 
Fine...

but I'm coming from this angle: www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&es...x4DgDg&usg=AFQjCNHJtsIkuMF6NMuE4zkqwN6ANxjEnQ

The overarching conclusion of that study, which was published last week in the journal PLoS One, is not really new or surprising, says Dr. Timothy Church, who holds the John S. McIlhenny Endowed Chair in Health Wisdom at the Pennington Biomedical Research Center in Louisiana and who has long studied exercise and weight control. “It’s been known for some time that, calorie for calorie, it’s easier to lose weight by dieting than by exercise,” he says.
 
Changed, I just talk/come across like that sometimes - if i'm associating your username properly, you're actually a damn smart fella/lady. I'm a stickler for being precise/literal though, my comment to your post wasn't meant to be antagonistic or anything ;P
Generally speaking, 9/10, your advice woulda held true and led to weightloss :)

OH- and BIG BIG thumbs up to the bolded sentence there, I hate seeing people bust ass in the gym only to get little/no results for that very reason (that doesn't just apply to weightloss, it applies to gaining muscle mass as well). On a longtime training board i frequent, we always say "bodies are made in the kitchen".
 
I tend to follow "it matters more what you eat instead of how much". If you change what you eat and eat foods that help your body maintain equilibrium instead of sugar highs and lows, then your body will tell you when to stop eating.

I do agree with diet influencing weight more than exercise.
 
^that type of approach (quality, over quantity) makes surprisingly little difference for weight gain/loss over "beginner" time-spans.
(plz don't take that to mean quality isn't important, as it is. But total calories, whether perfect quality or terrible quality, are the main factor in the calorie-balance equation(which *directly* mediates weight gain/loss).
 
Will this diet be effective?

Hey,
So I recently got started on a diet and although it's been going great for now, I'm just worried I won't be able to keep the weight off. I know you can usually figure that out depending on the type of diet and how quickly the weight is lost and stuff so I was wondering what you guys thought.
During the week, I have coffee (no milk or sugar) and a banana for breakfast; a sandwich (vegetables and meat, no sauces or anything) for lunch; another one around 4-5pm and then it's mostly munching on apples and carrot sticks and that sort of thing. I think this evens out to something around 1400 calories a day. On the week-end I have normal meals just because I know I won't be able to avoid cravings during the week otherwise. Oh and I've cut off all alcohol and drink only water other than tea/coffee.
This isn't at all my ideal diet but the problem is I'm a student living in catered accomodation so I can't cook. Anyway, I've been doing this for about 6 days and have lost 2kg (~5lbs) out of the ideal 10 (~23lbs I think), so so far so good. Oh and I go to the gym about twice a week (can't afford more).
Am I losing this too quickly? I do want to be able to see some quick results but it would kinda suck to put all the weight back on immediately...I haven't been on a diet in about 4 years and last time I ended up losing 30kg in three months and being hospitalized for anorexia so I'm no genius at this :) thanks!
 
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Deprivation diets ultimately lead to binging and to failure. Eat a well-rounded, nutritionally complete diet that is just shy of your total BMR and you will lose weight sensibly.

If you would like more in-depth help, feel free to PM me. However, I won't stand by the, "I'm a student and therefore cannot cook at all" excuse. I'd place money on you have a communal kitchenette somewhere in the dorm building or not far off. ;) While I don't expect you to cook three- (or even two-) course meals, boiling some water for pasta or sautéing some vegetables is not far fetched, even for communal kitchens. ;)
 
Yeah that's what I figured. It's frustrating cuz I'd like the weight to go off quickly but you're probably right.
Well to be fair, we don't have a stove or oven or anything really apart from a mini-fridge to share between the whole floor so it is really limited! Nobody's going to want to buy a kitchenette with me though since we are in catered halls so we don't really need to cook - it's just while I'm on the diet I'd rather not eat the catered food cuz it's quite high-calorie and stuff. So it wasn't just an excuse! ;)
Might take you up on your offer to PM you in the morning, thanks.
 
^ High-calorie food isn't the devil. You can have a meal that's 500 or even 600 calories, as long as it is allotted for. Say you eat 1400 calories a day: One meal's 500 calories? No big deal, the other two are 300. Losing weight is as easy as calories in being less than calories out. Figure out your BMR and then feel free to PM me. ;)
 
Yeah - it's more that I have no idea how many calories would be in one of those meals but I think it might be nearer to like 900. It makes me feel better to stick with stuff that actually has the calories written on the front =D anyway going to bed now but I'll PM you tomorrow!
 
What will help you figure out how much food you need per day is to attempt to get close to the amount of calories burned off by your basal metabolic rate (BMR). I would suggest reading up about what the BMR is, and what the average is for someone of your sex/height/weight/activity level. If you have the money you can pay a specialist attempt to figure out your personal BMR (which can vary quite substantially). Calories over this BMR need to be burned off, or they will be stored (a little bit of storage isn't a bad thing). 1400 kcal a day is a bit less than the average of 1500 kcal, and you need to factor in your personal activity level. Just make sure you are getting the nutrition (not just calories!) that your body needs, it is better to eat a little too much than to be eating an amount under your personal BMR.

Edit: Doh ap already said it...I need to start reading more closely sometimes! ;)
 
I'm going to merge this with the existing thread we have going, Pagey. Best of luck with your weight management! Hopefully there are some recommendations in here that will assist you to become more healthy. :)
 
Okay so since the last time I posted about my diet here, there have been some complications, ie. I didn't follow it and have put on even more weight since then. Ugh :(
Anyway, for the past few days I've tried putting myself on a new one that I feel really good about, no cravings, feeling healthy etc - I'm eating about 1800 calories a day (some of which are desserts, to ward off the cravings) and going to the gym every day. At the gym I do 20mn treadmill/ 15mn various arm & leg exercises, 10mn rowing machine, 20mn exercise bike, but I've been doing better so I'll probably start doing a bit more. According to the machines I burn about 300 calories with each session. Do you think this sounds like a good plan/ like I'll lose weight? Whenever I start a diet I get paranoid that it won't work and that I'm all doing it for nothing - and I'm too scared to weigh myself regularly, I know it'll jsut depress me :\
Thank youuu
 
^ that's because you're not sure about your diet - if you wanna know how to NOT have undigested foods creating toxins and adding to fat in the body - fill in this questionnaire, http://www.prokerala.com/health/ayurveda/prakriti-analysis/prakriti-test.php
and let me know the answer - I can construct a basic dietary plan for you, easy no sweat or stress; if it works for you (which it will if you put in the effort- it has been tailor made by the observation of yogis from at least 7000years ago, and is going strong in the east still, and slowly but surely seeping into teh west); because where you are going with you exercise regime you are going to get where you want to go, easily. I think from the sound of it you just want an easy simple diet that will actually work.

From my observations of your body type; you are doing the right kind of exercise - high impact - for your constitution, hold onto the fact that (I'm sure you know this) the slower you lose fat weight, the longer it takes to put it back on, unless of course it is muscle/water retention.

Also you need to remember not to feel bad if you slip up, as you know feeling bad makes you continue to spiral down out of self-control...final thing to remember that if you slip up, the same facts about your dietary needs will still apply - so all you have to do is pick it back up again to see immediate results.

Hope that was easy enough to understand.

Get back to me, in PM or on here, ma copine.
 
Pagey said:
Okay so since the last time I posted about my diet here, there have been some complications, ie. I didn't follow it and have put on even more weight since then. Ugh :(
Anyway, for the past few days I've tried putting myself on a new one that I feel really good about, no cravings, feeling healthy etc - I'm eating about 1800 calories a day (some of which are desserts, to ward off the cravings) and going to the gym every day. At the gym I do 20mn treadmill/ 15mn various arm & leg exercises, 10mn rowing machine, 20mn exercise bike, but I've been doing better so I'll probably start doing a bit more. According to the machines I burn about 300 calories with each session. Do you think this sounds like a good plan/ like I'll lose weight? Whenever I start a diet I get paranoid that it won't work and that I'm all doing it for nothing - and I'm too scared to weigh myself regularly, I know it'll jsut depress me :\
Thank youuu
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if you're still feeling okay at 1800k tghen it'll make you reduce weight for sure (with daily 300k exercise- my gut tells me your intake is too low but would need moar #'s)

deserts ward off cravings temporarily but make them worse after, cmon you knew that! ;]

what're these 'random arm/leg exercises'? am guessing they're unnecessary and should be dropped and time in gym reduced (1hr20min daily is absolutely too much for general health/calorie stuff/etc... either do it cuz your training goals require it, or cuz it's recreational; don't do 9hrs a week to burn calories or 'get fit'!)

definitely weigh yourself if you're unable to use the mirror appropriately (i prefer ppl use mirrors IF they're able to gauge that way- some are delusional in their approaches and see what they want [or what they don't want] w/o regard for reality lol). I'd recommend a scale right now for you cuz i have a feeling you're setting up too hard off the bat, but don't know the other #'s here.. def don't try to lose too fast, it's bad in some ways and not something you need anyways (if you've gotta lose a pound at all- but that's your call not mine!)

B1tO'RoughJack said:
^ that's because you're not sure about your diet - if you wanna know how to NOT have undigested foods creating toxins and adding to fat in the body - fill in this questionnaire, http://www.prokerala.com/health/ayurveda/prakriti-analysis/prakriti-test.php
and let me know the answer - I can construct a basic dietary plan for you, easy no sweat or stress; if it works for you (which it will if you put in the effort- it has been tailor made by the observation of yogis from at least 7000years ago, and is going strong in the east still, and slowly but surely seeping into teh west); because where you are going with you exercise regime you are going to get where you want to go, easily. I think from the sound of it you just want an easy simple diet that will actually work.

From my observations of your body type; you are doing the right kind of exercise - high impact - for your constitution, hold onto the fact that (I'm sure you know this) the slower you lose fat weight, the longer it takes to put it back on, unless of course it is muscle/water retention.

Also you need to remember not to feel bad if you slip up, as you know feeling bad makes you continue to spiral down out of self-control...final thing to remember that if you slip up, the same facts about your dietary needs will still apply - so all you have to do is pick it back up again to see immediate results.

Hope that was easy enough to understand.

Get back to me, in PM or on here, ma copine.
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what is this "high impact trianing is good for your constitution" nonsense? unsure what someone's "constitution" is.. i guess i hear that as some antiquated word, and didn't know it was still in modern usage (ie, "this tonic is good for the constitution")
/cannot fathom what the thinking is behind recommending high-impact training to someone tho... if they need it for specific reasons (ie a sport or whatever) then yes, but didn't know that was relevant to pagie.
//also unsure why an old diet for yogi's would be advisable (or even relevant) to her. Your eastern ways = everything you need schtick holds weight in some yoga stuff, but not wrt training/diet. i cringe thinking what kind of diet/training routine you would put together for her, and the logic you'd use in creating it :|
 
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if you're still feeling okay at 1800k tghen it'll make you reduce weight for sure (with daily 300k exercise- my gut tells me your intake is too low but would need moar #'s)

deserts ward off cravings temporarily but make them worse after, cmon you knew that! ;]

what're these 'random arm/leg exercises'? am guessing they're unnecessary and should be dropped and time in gym reduced (1hr20min daily is absolutely too much for general health/calorie stuff/etc... either do it cuz your training goals require it, or cuz it's recreational; don't do 9hrs a week to burn calories or 'get fit'!)

definitely weigh yourself if you're unable to use the mirror appropriately (i prefer ppl use mirrors IF they're able to gauge that way- some are delusional in their approaches and see what they want [or what they don't want] w/o regard for reality lol). I'd recommend a scale right now for you cuz i have a feeling you're setting up too hard off the bat, but don't know the other #'s here.. def don't try to lose too fast, it's bad in some ways and not something you need anyways (if you've gotta lose a pound at all- but that's your call not mine!)
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Thanks a lot for your answer!
As far as desserts go, the one thing I know is that if I don't eat any once in a while then I just decide the whole thing isn't worth it, make a trip to the supermarket and come back with 5 packs of M&Ms within a week of starting my diet, haha.
Anyway, since yesterday I followed on that routine and still feeling great.

Um, by 'random arm/leg exercises' I meant some of the more specific machines - I do one upper thigh workout (like where you're sitting down and have to lift a heavy bar with your legs), one that kinda resembles bench presses, and one where I've got to pull a weight attached to the machine towards me, so that's a biceps workout. Hope that makes sense, I dunno how they're called and it's kinda hard to describe.
The reason I do those exercises is that I'd really like to get more muscle definition in my arms and legs - well for my arms especially, I'd really like to lose a lot of fat (I obsess about my arms), so I figured this would help accelerate that.
Do you mean going to the gym that much is unhealthy because I'm pysically overworking myself or were you referring more to the psychological aspect?

Yeah...I should weigh myself but I've been extremely self-conscious about my weight lately and usually every time I weigh myself it just makes me feel absolutely horrible tbh :\ I was thinking of just kinda gauging by how my clothes fit...
I don't mind giving you other numbers if it would help.

thanks again, reaaaally appreciate the help!
 
Pagey, just remember that it's not the number on the scale. It's how you will feel and look that will keep you going for your goal. May I suggest doing some combination exercises? Try not to focus on "spot reduction", as that never works. Focus on getting your body looking good and feeling great.

Here are some exercises I suggest:
Pushups... I don't care if you can't even do one right now. Drop and give me some knee pushups!
Squats: the most fundamental human motion! Just do some, you'll feel good!
Jump! This os pretty self explanatory. Just jump on things! Jump on the bed. Jump down five stairs. Run fast and see how far you can jump.
On that note, run really, really fast! Do sprints, don't do thirty minutes of a jog! Jogging brings your body into a high, but the high wears off if you jog too often and then you come crashing down and have no motivation.
 
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