Weightloss

[Pagey]

the idea of IF/intermittent fasting is an excellent approach for many reasons, pagie, but if you google you'll find proper approaches and see why the binge-day, at least as you wrote of it, isn't close to as on-point as you could be (leangains website is a great spot for a ton of 'intro to IF' principles. IF underpins most of teh great diets i know of, for instance if you wanna get reallll hardcore, bulletproof IF is pretty hard to beat [a highly modified/superior paleo-type approach; IMO this is overkill for 99% of ppl, who would benefit tremendously just from understanding/implementing the basic principles of things like IF, understanding macro's and food qualities, proper training[ie sufficient but not too much; smart, efficient moves; understanding of / application of progressive-overload principles, etc etc etc]

Thanks! I'll check that website out to be honest I'd really rather be able to go without that 'free day' or whatever, but knowing myself I just don't have the self-restraint to go a few months without giving in regularly.

 

[Serotonin101]

once you cut out the binge day it will be hard adjusting at first (used to love eating ice cream by the gallon on weekends). but after a month or so I no longer crave those binge days.

 

[B1tO'RoughJack]

but knowing myself I just don't have the self-restraint to go a few months without giving in regularly.

knowing your OLD self - your language, and thought, affects your behaviour directly.

BMXXX thanks for sharing something at last...digestion 101 is not exactly what I need though, but thanks, it is probably just my use of language which you can't get your head around, if not -well, as I said you overcomplicate things, leading to limited info.

 

[Pagey]

knowing your OLD self - your language, and thought, affects your behaviour directly.

Well sure, but I'm also trying to be realistic - knowing my old self I wouldn't be able to go two days without bingeing, a week is already massive progress, seriously. Considering I literally was/am addicted to food I think it's best to, well, taper, otherwise I'll just relapse sooner. So to speak

 

[Jabberwocky]

BMXXX thanks for sharing something at last...digestion 101 is not exactly what I need though, but thanks, it is probably just my use of language which you can't get your head around, if not -well, as I said you overcomplicate things, leading to limited info.

i quoted you in that post, to show exactly why you were wrong and why your post implied a gross ignorance on human digestion. i'll try not to address your posts, and you do the same; let's stop cluttering teh thread :]

 

[Polluted_Mind]

Seriously if you're trying to lose weight don't smoke weed, you will immediately start eating burger rings....

I still think the 500 calorie diet is the best weight loss program on the planet, went from chubby to very slim in a month.

 

[Jabberwocky]

lol

 

[amanda_eats_pandas]

Seriously if you're trying to lose weight don't smoke weed, you will immediately start eating burger rings....

I still think the 500 calorie diet is the best weight loss program on the planet, went from chubby to very slim in a month.

Yeah, I head the Auschwitz look was in this year.


Bmx and whatever Rough Jack's name is, if you guys actually had some science to back up your statements you would look less like litter children bickering. Or you could just put each other on ignore.

 

[Jabberwocky]

the human digestion system works from the second food enters your mouth, as it is masticated from whole food-stuffs into bolus(mushed food+saliva). from there, every last piece of it is either converted to something the body uses, or passed out into your toilet.

which part of that would be best for me to reference? i imagine all of that is in the wiki page on digestion that i referenced a few posts ago.

 

[Serotonin101]

^what happens if you shove food up your ass to go through digestion backwards? apparently its healthier for you. source: southpark

 

[Jabberwocky]

lol

 

[Serotonin101]

empty your inbox bmxxx

 

[Jabberwocky]

now yours is full.

 

[Serotonin101]

now yours is full.

emptied was with my girl

 

[Cold_wind]

Weight loss is simple, people tend to "overthink" weightloss in general. Meal frequency, and even content isnt all that important, calorie intake is the one principle of weight loss.

Everyday you burn a certain amount of calories, your heart beats, your brain functions, you walk around, your body's temperature is well regulated. This takes energy, which are calories. Various algorithms are used for calculating this (just google "caloric maintenance calculator"). Input relevant values, and that gives you a number of calories to eat everyday to maintain your weight.

The way that anyone's going to lose weight is knowing your maintenance, counting every calorie you eat everyday, and simply eating ~500 calories less than maintenance everyday. No need to exercise, though it does make it easier, and no need to care about exactly WHAT youre eating, as long as your calorie number is good. Yes, too little protein does facilitate muscle loss as opposed to fat, but if youre eating some meat, or drinking some milk everyday youre not going to be severly deficient. A useful number is 3500 calories is equivalent to one pound of fat, so a 500 calorie deficit is equal to 1 pound of fat loss, give or take.

reading the the thread seems like most people have the right idea, but I guess reiterating doesnt hurt.

 

[swampdragon]

Seriously if you're trying to lose weight don't smoke weed, you will immediately start eating burger rings...

Wouldn't agree with that.. I mostly stopped drinking alcohol* and because of that was smoking a lot more, and lost a lot of weight. I think that's partly because the booze was messing with my metabolism, but also because I always eat a lot more when drunk than stoned.

(*Speaking as a Brit, this equates to now having about 1 or 2 units of alcohol a week. )

 

[Wolfmans_BrothEr]

I must've said this a billion times, drink water. Water b4 a meal serves to fill u up and speeds metabolism

Stay away from things like granola and fruit. Fruit is very high in sugar and can do more harm than good

I hate cardio but stair steppers are the best form out there (run up and down bleachers) followed by treadmill, elliptical and finally bike (which is the worst form of cardio) if ur gonna do cardio learn about target heart rates and the benefits that come with keeping your heart rate elevated to certain %. There's a few dif levels of heart rate each with diff benefits

Finally I'll add don't be one of those people who eats only salad and water or tries to fast. That's not the healthy way to lose weight. U shud eat clean proteins, carbs, fats (learn which are good and which are bad) vegetables etc. problem with never eating is first, unhealthy metabolism, second when you finally do eat, your body is craving almost anything and it won't process it to the right places. Say you don't eat all day then finally have a burger and fries. Since ur bodys been deprived its gonna take that food and store almost ALL of it. Since it's not clean proteins, fats and carbs, it's gonna go to all the wrong places. Im too lasy to get into more detail

Don't eat 2 hours before bed, stay away from soda and sugary juices, alcohol, stay hydrated

 

[Jabberwocky]

swampdragon- i'm teh same, smoking does very little to help my appetite (i'm always trying to gain, not lose); alcohol WILL promote fat storage (and estrogen in men!) if abused, even light abuse (ie past 2ish drinks/day for average size person; 2 and under is surprisingly inert in these regards. see an old thread here in HL [may be in SD] by 'sphinx' or 'giza' called "alcohol and you" for teh most comprehensive writeup you'll find on the subject <can also google it under "par deus"> )

wolfman- it sucks how little ppl take their water needs to heart. if i know someone's not getting enough water, i don't even care to help them further lol. (and fwiw, kind of a trivial thing, but the whole 'not eating before bed' thing is very debunked at this point - in fact, most lean approaches to diet have you back-loading your day <see: leangains; bulletproof; etc for some whole-foods/paleo type intermittent fasting concepts that're tops)
/and fuck granola, lol

 

[MrPorter]

I was at 63kg before Christmas and dropped to 61kg this week. 2kg loss (+ xmas) in ~5 weeks. This was simply from not eating sugar, especially sugary snacks. I estimated that I come home and in 5 hours consume over 600 calories in sugary snacks - mostly brownies. I'd tried doing this previously but it was effort.I haven't touched a single sugary snack (excluding brothers 21st bday cake last night) since the 28th of December.

My advice from this is just do it. Work out where you're going wrong, cut it out. Don't think about it, just do it. Distractions and a physical target is great. I think snacking mostly stems from boredom.
Oh and since stopping snacking is often breaking habits, try moving those snacking foods into a different place. Everytime I open the cupboard the snacks were in, I start salivating and prepare for chocolaty godness in the form of delectable brownies. It's now full of glasses though.

 

[Jabberwocky]

...a 50kg snatch gets scholarships wtf?
/unsure what that post has to do w/ this thread, save the little tip in the last paragraph about hiding snacks.. not hating or anything, it just reads like blog material or like it's from a training/sports thread.