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WeightAna

WeightAna

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Hello.Im new to this site and i registered because i want to know more about drugs and there effect on body and brain as i am researcher.
I curentlly have one very hard and very painfull research i would like to share and seek advices.
I have a pet rat who is doing research on himself.The rat is fat and is trying to lose weight in any way possible.The rat eats very healthy and lots of vitamins and supplement for healthy brain and body.But rat struggles to lose weight! And rat is on mission cause its life case! He needs to lose weight till july and im in lot of pressure because of his research.
Rat tried in past some drugs (cocaine,amphetamine-base aka speed,concerta,phentermine,exctasy,weed and bath salts) all in purpose to lose weight.The research was done only a couple of days and rat would lose crazy ammount of weight like 10 kilos in 5 days.Now rat had a big problem with eating.He wants to eat more and more and had binge eating problem.He lose weight and then relax and gain it back.This time rat needs to lose weight till july or he may end up diying.He is currently around 2 weeks on amphetamine aka speed diet,where he takes as needed to not feel hungry ,exercising very havily every day and eating clean. Also a lot of vitamins and supplements.The last days rat is taking huge ammount of amp but not having so big apetite reduction or any effect.Rat knows about tolerance and i do as well but he takes magnesium as nmda upregulator.Maybe its not much but before this time rat would always feel everything and would dance all night around 8 hours where he lose fat and then sleep as a baby.Rat doesnt have anymore any effect ....he doesnt even feel it in any way. More over his heart is very slow,slow breathing and maybe a little anxiety.Rat was taking l tyrosine and it seems to help but last 2 days nothing.Now what i want to ask is how dangerous is taking that big ammount of amp per one night?Rat would do crazy things sometimes even 5g of it and not feeling anything just sitting and watching tv.Rat is planning some serious stuff with cocaine as before he would lose more weight and he fills it.He plans doing only 0.5g per day and would use that time to try dancing in the room to lose fat and burn calories.rat loves to dance! Its the only thing rat has pleasure when doing drugs.He is not addicted or anything but he is scared that too much amp can make his body addiction.Is it possible to become addicted like this?and feel body sensesations like depression and all?Rat never had it. He is always after tommroow good and all but last days he is very nervous and very stressed.I try to calm him with diazepam ,valerian and melatonin at night if he cants sleep.His mind is all into losing weight and would do all to do it. Thats why he will start cocaine from tommorow. I would like to have some ideas and advices given to him so he stay healthy and maybe do what his intention is but not dye.I have many more things to post but this would be the first one if i can find some good and knowledgable people here who can help him.My first question is why the heart of rat beats slow and normal on amp and the only thing he fills is BIG vasoconstriction?! Is rat heart tired or he doesnt have anymore dopamine in brain?He still fills focused and can watch tv very long or even help me write with this article.I hope i get some answers please.Rat is desperate.I know all about drug hurms and how bad they are,i know what they do ,i know how they act ,i know all about tolerance and also that this what rat do is not worth his life and is bad so please no advices on this,the rat will still do it but wants to be safe and learn more what to do .I know rat is crazy but his dream is in july and he needs to act fast.Thanks to everybody!
 
Using drugs in order to lose weight is not the best option because once you stop using them, you will gain it back. Do you work out or exercise much? Please edit your post to say "Me" and just speak in the first person. Thanks.
 
'WeightAna';

Ana, as in anorexia? sorry mate but i don;t think you should be using amphetamines to starve yourself - as they'll also effect your mind, which already has one serious disorder in it.
 
Using cocaine to lose weight is a terrible idea. Adding exercise on top of your drug usage is asking for a heart attack.
 
Yes rat exercise i lot .Its only 1h but very hard exercises .he also dont eat carbs just sometimes he eats fruit when is his cheat day.I worry a lot for him.Sometimes i have the feeling that all this what he is doing is bullshit and that he is losing his life for this stupid weight loss,but he is under big pressure cause he needs to start working.He is so much into his job that he is risking his life and everything for it. Regarding is Ana for anorexia no,its not anorexia .Rat is learning to eat and not overeat.Today he made a mistake and ate some icecream and cookies.He was thinking _oh now i have stuff i can eat_ and its his main problem,cause he relax.Its very stressfull and i dont want to write a lot about it.I just want to know regardin heart issues.Why hiws heart is beating slow after amphetamine? It should be opposite.Anyway thanks to everybody who wrote here.I will take care of rat and make sure this is his last time doing this! DEFINITELLY!!!
 
I would definitely research healthy ways of losing weight, as what you're doing will probably not work in the long run, and even if it does, may have the side effect of killing you. Simply starving yourself to lose weight is terribly unhealthy, even without the added health risks of using drugs.
 
Your heart is beating "slow" because you have tolerance now. I can take some good meth hits and fall asleep. That's one reason you can't keep up on the dance floor, you've gotten used to the adrenaline.

Stims also don't make energy out of nothing. If you're literally starving, you'll have the energy of a starving person. With stims, it's just more fun to starve, and you stay awake during it. Keep an eye on your blood sugar too. If you were really overweight (and not delusional) your sugars may be sky-high, ketones will be high for sure, both will effect the energy you "feel".

Weight comes back because you burned-up all your lean tissue. Working out is pointless since you won't gain any muscle and you only put your heart and brain at risk.

Thing is, your routines and pushing yourself to do workouts, you have all you need to actually healthily lose weight. Which is really just "eat less", but "move more" helps. And yeah, before the meth I lost 80 pounds with nothing, so I totally can get all righteous about it.

Oh, right, the other thing you need is patience: it took me years but I did it.
 
Scrofula said:
Your heart is beating "slow" because you have tolerance now. I can take some good meth hits and fall asleep. That's one reason you can't keep up on the dance floor, you've gotten used to the adrenaline.Stims also don't make energy out of nothing. If you're literally starving, you'll have the energy of a starving person. With stims, it's just more fun to starve, and you stay awake during it. Keep an eye on your blood sugar too. If you were really overweight (and not delusional) your sugars may be sky-high, ketones will be high for sure, both will effect the energy you "feel".Weight comes back because you burned-up all your lean tissue. Working out is pointless since you won't gain any muscle and you only put your heart and brain at risk.Thing is, your routines and pushing yourself to do workouts, you have all you need to actually healthily lose weight. Which is really just "eat less", but "move more" helps. And yeah, before the meth I lost 80 pounds with nothing, so I totally can get all righteous about it.Oh, right, the other thing you need is patience: it took me years but I did it.
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Thank you for the reply.I areally appreciate your advice.I agree regarding adrenaline,must be burnt out all adrenal fatigue.Im trying to cure it with some l tyrosine and protein powders.Anyway,rat is doing his thing and he puts his word this is the last time he is doing it.Also rat pays a lot of money for all shits and he is not rich neither the i,im just trying to help him understand its not good way but sometimes you need to do what you dont like in order to get what you want. I will post here rat results and hopefully all will be great.Rat is gonna train today also if he can cause last night rat took some coke and i told him to not do it cause he is tired all the day but he didnt listened and he was trying to dance.he was soo tired that he fall a sleep...so shitty time. And today morning feeling tired and exosted. I read a lot on this forum that there are girls and boys who do this and other animals also.I would like to hear what they did and how it passed...if anybody read this thanks in advance.
 
Today news...rat toook coke and it feels much better but he still cannot dance.no adrenaline rush just dopamine and he feels calm.i decided to make him not to anyhting for several days to lower tolerance.during that days rat will train and eat a lot of protein.but today rat feels very tires.maybe cause yesterday he was scared and had anxiety i gave him beta blocker propranolol cause his heart was seriusly beating very slow and hard.His goal today is to stay calm and try to do what he can.he is also tired cause he do very much exercises and not eating very well...regarding muscle loss im not worries about it cause he is also taking anavar a steroid to prevent muscle loss...there is no interaction between any of drugs he takes but i think propranolol is still in blood and not alowing adrenaline to hit him.i see he is very sad and dissapointed from everything he behave very sad and feels like all he do is pointless but then he had hope to lower tolerance during off days.he just need 3-4 days of full effect so he can dance and at least do this cardio which wil be enought to lose enought fat,he will be happy for it.rat eats protein powder today all day and taking bcaas to keep his muscles.also drinking a lot of water and peeing a lot.i know all drugs goes into toilet and its sad.But rat have a hope and i have hope he is good rat and will not finish addicted cause he doesnt have pleasure from drugs just doing it for weight loss. the only thing he has when i take him to walk is that he has much of anxiety like everybody is looking at him and knowing what he do.thats bad and thats why i keep him home when he do things.i know its bad but he has a lot of support.very strange even after yestrday no effect he looked in mirrror and i seen him and he lost some fat !!! very strange.maybe something is still happening but he dont fill it. still he wants to dance cause its his change for cardio cause he cannot do cardio(he is not lazy but this is something he really hates). sometimes i wonder if rat has adhd and i was taking him to doctor but they sad no its normal rat even do i suspect he is maybe deficient in adrenaline and dopamine.In his past period he was very sick during winter he got psychosis not from drugs but just for no reason nobody knows why and he was taking haloperidol.it blocked all dopamine in his brain and sometimes even propranolol makes him very tired.rat is going on control to doctor for this ,this month and will say all to doctor.The problem is that rat has less then a month to lose weight and he is a little bit worried thats why he does all this. but he believes cause his dream is soon to be realised.I am very positive about him. i think he will do what he wants if he countinue very slowly and not overdo it.He is prone to anxiety and this kills him cause he worry about opinion of other people.He is somewhat famous and neeed to take care of publicity.very good rat and never done anything bad in his life.Yesterday he almost died cause he had huge anxiety getting coke. i dont know how he did it but luckily he survived and did all good. also rat doesnt have other friends who do this so he needs to be very coutious.Rat will not binge eating anymore in his life i will forbid him and make him love life and do all it takes to be happy.he just need this weight loss and then all is over.Rat will do his best.I will watch his results and let you know. i really need support from you guys cause i was reading a lot about this site and all forum and i need somebody who understand rat and can give him support also me cause i watch over him.Rat is definitelly crazy i must admit! even in his normal life he do strange things for weight loss. his life is all about this and i dont want it to be anymore likek this. i want him happy and good.Please stay with me here i need your support during this research ,and if anybody is doing the same i want his results also.dont know where to find a forum expecially for this. if any of you knows please let me link here.thank you angels <3
 
helping you starve yourself to death is not harm reduction mate, you should really be talking to someone about this irl.
also, why refer to yourself as a rat? if i was gonna pretend to be an animal i'd at least pick a cool one.
you won;t find a forum especially for hurting yourself on bluelight but we're happy to listen to you - just please don't expect us to encourage or enable this type of behavior.

tl;dr, please don't starve yourself.
 
Propanolol or other beta blockers won't reverse your tolerance. Once you're used to it, only stopping and waiting, eating and sleeping, will bring it back. No drugs will do it. Too much beta blocker and you can faint from low BP.

This site might not have the support for what you're looking for. A real-life therapist or psychiatrist would be a good idea, since your thoughts seem a bit scattered.
You need to find a place that focuses on healthy weight-loss support or whatever underlying emotional things are going on. Like, whatever this thing in a month is that's so important you risk your life.

Are you going to Mars or something, and the ship only has room if you're a certain weight? The tests to be a fireman are next month and you've trained all your life for it, but you're just ten pounds over?

Or is it cause you have to go to some rat wedding, or rat reunion? Cause fuck 'em, is it worth it to have a stroke so you look thinner in some photos? The drugs will make you look gaunt, have bad skin and hair as you divert protein to your brain, and not your skin and nails. You'll come off as weird at whatever party this is. If it is a reunion or some bullshit, everyone there will be fatter anyway.
 
i think what we're all saying is that this is a place for harm-reduction, but we can't encourage harmful behaviors under the pretense that by doing so we make them slightly safer. there's no good reason for cutting your own tongue out, but i'm sure there's plenty of ways to do it and survive, but it shouldn't get to that point.

sorry i'm high - look we just can;t in all conscience advise you how to effectively self-harm. but we're all happy to listen to you if you want somewhere to get stuff off your chest and/or seek help; that's basically why we're all here.

hope yourewell mate.
 
Well yeah, you're free to bitch about whatever with me, after trying it out on @keeping first. I just don't know which forum that would be. Although the meth forum is always good for anything strange, and should just be "miscellaneous vaguely drug and sex and body issue-related".

You can invite Algernon the rat too. It's just that there ARE professionals who know all about whatever it is you're going through. They do cost money and are (more) judgmental.

You know, you refer to your rat as male, but I keep picturing female.
 
Hello! I will give you few tips to lose weight as safe as possible during using drugs.
First of all, you must eat fat and protein, eat a lots of fresh vegetables and fruits and drink pure water. If you want to lose weight, protein intake should be about 1-2g per kg (your bodyweight) to avoid muscle loss. Eat carbs after workout, especially if its cardio.
Take 1000mg fish-oil three times a day. Sleep a lot at nights because without sleep your body will not recover and you have no energy.
Eat 3 times a day at minimum, every 3-4 hours. Dont snack.
Amphetamines burn fat, thats true, but if you dont rest and eat properly it will only make you lose muscles instead of fat.
 
I so AM a pretty princess--not to mock people who struggle with a legitimate condition--and everyone around me agrees. There's no dysphoria about it, even on the barber who trims my sideburns (my golden locks distract from the tiara).
 
^ ha okat i defer to the wisdom of my esteemed colleague but lets not forget that we cam here to help OP with his issues surrounding weight - we're wayy OT.
 
Im not looking for support in doing reasearch but a support in harm reduction. As regarding a rat i used it cause i fill like thats the right name for my friend.protein is taken a lot of times by the day also omega oil,vitamin c and other stuff... regarding yesterday night ,rat managed to dance but after a hue dose and he danced 3 h which is not so much as before but is happy. He fills better today slept better ate good. Rat is doing this for only certain days not all the monthh or more,cause he has certain stuff ammount .I just want to see if there is anybody more crazy that this one and doing the same. i was reading in meth section but i dont fill like ruing anybodys life with it neither i have a sorce for it.So rat will stay safe till now and try to do what he can... i really appreciate all your comments . i would like to know also if anybody of you have hallucinations during cocaine binge?and how you deal withh it?thanks
 
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