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bergerac54

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Hi
Weed is usually only used for comedown purposes when pilling but after reading that post a while back claiming that it protected you from brain damage while rolling by keeping it cooler i though i might give it a go. I was just wondering if this had a postive or negative effect on the roll and if the amount protection is any more than marginal?
I did a search on this but I couldnt really find anything conclusive
bErgerac54
 
I have personally found that the right amount of smoke will really push your pill along, prolonging and enhancing the experience.
However, it is a fine line, too much will bring you down and it's hard to get back up even if you take more.
Some on the comeup, and then at odd intervals just after the peak, don't leave it too long. And remember don't have too much.
 
To be honest, I would suggest that the idea of taking more drugs to try and protect your brain is false harm minimisation.
That being said, a nice spliff while you're rolling along can be lovely.
BigTrancer :)
 
When I do pill now (once every couple of months) I find that I like to have alot of pot (bush is best) before I roll (for the anxiety/nausea) and for the "comedown sesh". As BT said a good spliff does the trick.
 
Sometimes you can overcook it on the choof though... the amphetamine-like effects on the tail end of pills can make it seem like you're immortal - 'i've had 18 beers, ten cones and I'm charging hard... I cannot be stopped!' ... only for the pill to finally wear off leaving you mashed trashed and thoroughly beyond consciousness.
(PS: deadly is right sifu... 5-htp + prozac wouldn't be very fun)
BigTrancer :)
 
I think that smoking weed won't decrease neurotoxicity, the harsh fact is that pills almost certainly cause damage to your brain and if you can't accept that then you shouldn't be taking it. Weed accumulates in the fatty tissues of your body, and in the case of the brain it forms a protective layer that protects you from brain tumours (i think it's brain tumas, couldn't be stroke as the act of smoking increase the likelyhood of stroke, and even the former point is highly speculative and is far from proven, can anyone confirm this?) A spliff while your rolling shouldn't kill the buzz, provided it's shared, peace! Although i do think that a massice bong sesh on the comedown makes the following day much more depressing, i've traded the bong in for ovaltine and horlicks..... mmm YUM!
 
Weed accumulates in the fatty tissues of your body, and in the case of the brain it forms a protective layer that protects you from brain tumours (i think it's brain tumas, couldn't be stroke as the act of smoking increase the likelyhood of stroke, and even the former point is highly speculative and is far from proven, can anyone confirm this?)
I think that the role of cannabinoids in controlling human glioma cell survival/death decision is more likely than a 'protective layer that protects you from brain tumours'.
see eg.
Guzman, M., Sanchez, C., Galve-Roperh, I., "Control of the cell survival/death decision by cannabinoids.", J. Mol. Med. 78(11), 613-625, 2001.
(Thanks to BioHazard for this reference - mentioned in this thread where a cannabinoids, cancer and dieting were discussed).
BigTrancer :)
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Weed and pills go together like penis and vagina. On their own they are interesting, even enjoyable, but together... *lol*
;)
Enough with the obscenity, they're fun enough in combo to eclipse any negatives.
-plaz out-
 
Plazma that is FUCKING classic!! LOL
i TOTALLY agree!
i highly recommend smoking while rolling, it brings my peak right back up and makes it more intense! it also increases my chances of experiencing visuals :D
the only downside is that i find my memory is a little hazey the next day... meh, take the bad with the good! :)
 
note the icon!
i suggest waiting until your peak is over or dying, then light up a fat joint. contrary to whats said above, i dont think its possible to smoke too much... well not for me. i find that i have to smoke far more when rolling than while not to feel the effects, but DAYUM they are good
:)
i recently discovered the brilliance of weed while rolling... and since then every roll has been accompanied but a helluvalotta weed
:)
 
EDIT: WARNING THIS POST IS STRICTLY ON TOPIC!
Thank for the link to that highly informative and scientically reasoned thread, BT :) .
I know what i said was very vague (but hey so am i ;) , but i read about the cannabinoid coating of neurons and protecting against the likelyhood of suffering certain neurological disorders awhile ago. I think that this same physiological phenomenon has been hypothesised to prevent the chances of stroke, although i can't supply the excellent evidence BioHazard did.
 
Originally posted by plazma:
Weed and pills go together like penis and vagina. On their own they are interesting, even enjoyable, but together... *lol*
;)
Enough with the obscenity, they're fun enough in combo to eclipse any negatives.
-plaz out-
LOLOLOL Werd!!
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I always like a nice spliff a bit later in the night... after the initial peak has worn off, it helps to slow my mind down so i can concentrate on the music more when at a party, otherwise i find my mind wandering, my hands fidgeting etc.... but yeah it can be easy to over do so be careful of that. (damn am I still a greenlighter?)
 
Only 13 posts to go babe!
I love smoking weed on E, it can really help to kick your stuff in and make everything more bright and fuzzy and warm :) That being said, if you smoke too much before or during, it can totally kill your roll. You just have to find your boundaries :)
 
i have noticed that if i smoke when i'm pilling, the music slows down so much that dancing becomes this massive task that is nearly impossible to execute.
:D
but damn it feels nice.. providing you have no intentions of skipping!
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no way DOVE!!! after ive smoked i can dance for like five mins and feel like it was three hours! its fab! dancing feels great! and watching the screens that play random images is fucking trippy!! :D :D :D
 
Doesn't marijuana increase dopamine levels, which could lead to neurotoxicity after rolling? (dopamine where serotonin should be) ?
 
i find things go extremly crazy when smoking after a big nite on the pills...i love it! however sumtimes it can get frutsrating, only cuz ur soo out of it!, but lotsa fun.. ie not even being able to hold a conversation!
however, bad thing with it, for me anywayz, is 2-4 days after comedown is VERY bad, due to weed, head gets very light, and i always feel full seedy, and this is with postloading with all my yummo "get better" drugs..
oh wellz :)
 
I always - ALWAYS - smoke pot b4, during & after rolling. i find it can bring it on a bit quicker than usual, I usually smoke a cone 20-30 mins afta I drop, and a lot of the time I start feeling a wee bit 'funny'.
During the roll I find it can give me intense headspins and can bring on visuals as well as chilling me out a bit.....a smoke is a good way to break up your nite and give ure body a rest from dance and heat.
Afta the roll wen things are messy it helps me to stay messy ;) ,sleep, eat & chills me out (i.e. no anxiety)....however I have noticed I can get a bit more depressed than usual cumin down if I'm smokin buds.
Having sed all that, I smoke buds quite reguarly (not as much as I used to) and have been for 7 or 8 years, so I know wen I need a cone and I know wen I've had enuf.
I also find buds helpful in chilling u out wen ure meth'n off ure tits....sets the pace back a notch
Pot Paradox: a full bowl must b emtptied, an emptied bowl must b filled
 
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