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We need more raves in aus!

MollyFein74

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Seriously, we need some serious dam raves in aus. We got stereosonic, futures but thats it really. We need some serious raves occuring, 90's style full on to cater rolling balls style events, heavy dirty beats of all kinds.

Anyone agree with me on this or am I wishing I was born 20 years earlier for the raves lol
 
agreed MollyFein

more awesome city parties needed, I went to some free ones in sydney several years ago now, they had one at the old ABC studio in artarmon (sydeny) that was free and awesome. I think it was put on by a doof crew that were/possibly still are pretty big at the time. I remember some other free sydney warehouse parties as well from the same time. They were all massive, diverse music, underground city vide was really fun. Maybe this still goes on but I am out of the loop.
 
The festivals like stereosonic etc are so different from what I'd consider a 'rave', I'm definitely with you on missing that early 2000's rave culture though. I miss those days, where the rave clubs were going off, and people walked around with their name in silver across the arse of their phat pants, and I'm just so glad I caught the few tail end years of it. But, Aus is a fucking awesome place to be when it comes to doofs, there are so many good ones, both big and small. I can't think of many places which have such an amazing bush doof scene. I think that's where the culture's gone, and really, I think it's a positive. I know I'd rather be under the stars surrounded by eucalypts listening to heavy beats, rather than peaking in scungy bubble or hard kandy or even two tribes.
 
Need some wharehouse raves and night time raves that would be fucking sick! Rolling balls under the night sky damn sounds good lol
 
There are frequently raves in WA, if your interested fling me a PM, don't expect it to be like the old days though, I haven't been to a rave in a year or two. I used to go to every one, but they just kept getting worse.

The great atmosphere, great people, great vibe does not exist at a rave anymore, I'm sure some people would argue there are still SOME "real ravers" but there really is no beating a good doof.

http://www.welcometowonderland.com/view-trailer/trailer-high-quality.aspx
 
Some old school Sydney raves from the 90's -

here's some clips from the last 'ecky thump' (reunion) June 2012 - Factory theatre marrickville Syd

They also did echky thump 1 and 2 in the glebe wheat Silos, Imax theatre darling harbour, Power house Museum, Under ground car park city, North Fort on North Head at manly, chinese junk boat afloat and a heap of others - but here's their latest one last June - Old mates parties.

http://youtu.be/EolTngV5jJs
Lasers

http://youtu.be/jzr7iMOi-JE
Luke Spellbound Vs Johnny Gee Wizz

http://youtu.be/H7BUQKry96A
Wayne Chester Vs Paul Holden

http://youtu.be/e7YwgDWcwGI
Phase One - DJ Set - Eckythump - Factory Theatre - Sydney - 30 June 2012

http://youtu.be/ArZ1bnZ-fjE
Itch-E And Scratch-E - DJ Set - Eckythump The Reunion


And here's some 90's Sydney raves for you -

Mixed Beans 2 Rave - 2.10.1993 - Alexandria - Sydney Australia
http://youtu.be/0Z5U3bg3nfE

SMURF VILLAGE 2 - Rave - 1 -April - 1995 - Minto - Sydney - Australia
http://youtu.be/Mz5_F59R8tg

Field Of Dreams 1 - Rave - FEB 27th - 1993 - Sydney
http://youtu.be/n_DLsmsPeA8

Mayday 1994 (by A+A (prodigy)
http://youtu.be/w0hf23kynv4
http://youtu.be/HIHLmWGqHho

UTOPIA 2 1996
http://youtu.be/_qFZZHHlaJ4

Laser Show - Field of Dreams 4 - Rave 1996- Syd, Appin, In a massive tent/marquee at Appin Scount Park
http://youtu.be/_HExN02HyP4

Rave- DREAMFLIGHT: Futurescape II 1995
http://youtu.be/wuudEFEcwEM

Sweet Science - 28/4/1991 - Full Video
http://youtu.be/UpxTpt-kMRc

Nik Fish @ Mayday 94 Sydney
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXvQ-AIOlbk&feature=share&list=UUjm_yfJeQkruhje8XradPPg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4bStWnj-ys&feature=share&list=PL9BD487AE2EF16AC7

Graffiti Hall Of Fame - Syd - 1994
http://youtu.be/qphF84Y_LzY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lirRCr1H6DE&feature=share&list=UUjm_yfJeQkruhje8XradPPg (tony spanos!)

Happy Valley 3 - DJ Ming D 1993
http://youtu.be/HZBhlj2SW3E

PleasureDome94, September 1994 Syd
http://youtu.be/hGMvVsmTDjQ

FoD4 Field of Dreams 4 1996 Old School Rave (7000 people) - Sydney - lasers, In a massive tent/marquee at Appin Scout Park place
http://youtu.be/krb9GiMYW-0

Astral Flight by the Buck Rogers Ravers - April 1994
http://youtu.be/r5_VQeqgDK8

Field Of Dreams 3 - Rave - 4.3.1995 - Alexandria Basketball Stadium - SyD
http://youtu.be/91mBa05XtBk
 
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I went to some free ones in sydney several years ago now, they had one at the old ABC studio in artarmon (sydeny) that was free and awesome.

What was that one? or who by?

I recall the free love ones, I think they did 2 free events, and I recall a free doof style one at a park in Sydneyham back in the day also.

we need some serious dam raves in aus
A rave in a dam, that sounds like a good idea! :)

I don't think raves will ever be like they were back in the early to mid 90's tho, sadly, it was shit hot back then, all the new venues and good drugs and nice people, no violence etc. After '95 or so and the anna wood death they really went downhill after that.. Greedy promoters didn't help either and the drugs got worse and cheaper/dodgier. Bless the 90's the best of the rave scene. Glad I was there.
 
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+1 for more underground warehouse parties! Fuck commercialism!
 
Thanks for the YouTube links poledriver, some really great stuff in there.

I miss the old raves like Enchanted Forest in Adelaide with map points and secret locations yet 8000 people turning up
 
similarly to many other facets of such nature, the whole concept of originality plays a big part in defining why such movements such as old school raves made them what they are, in this case (from what I've heard, can't say I was there to experience it first hand) bloody good events. The idea that electronic music was seemingly in its foundation period and the accompanying characters, substances and overall attitudes of the people was apparently fresh in conjunction with this movement was what made it so good; an original concept which had not been executed on such a level before.

To replicate it today would be possible in terms of music/venues (which IMO would still be fun events) however as time has passed so have the ideals, attitudes and overall relative knowledge of the audiences and in my opinion the crowd itself plays a decent role in what makes an event that extra bit enjoyable- being unable to replicate such a crowd would ultimately mean that modern day raves would not compare to the old school, especially with the notion that such events had already been experienced 20 odd years ago by original audiences to the scene.

making me wish I could reverse time with those vids poledriver, nice!
 
Good post. Did you mean possible or impossible when you said this -

To replicate it today would be possible in terms of music/venues

overall relative knowledge of the audiences
- Also the knowledge of the cops and the venue owners and public awareness makes it very hard to ever do what was done in the past to the same extent. I don't know if any warehouse raves go on in Syd in the same kind of nature as to what used to happen, like 4 thousand people raving in a huge warehouse or field with no police presence at all, no violence at all till sunrise and beyond, I really doubt that could ever happen again on the same scale, many reasons for this, alot of it comes down to noise and population and people moving into once industrial areas ect that used to only house warehouses for many km's and km's, also with social media the word gets out too fast and sometimes alot of the wrong types end up knowing about a once semi-secret society of party heads. It may be different in other cities, but Syd lost that magic along time ago, alot of the parties had to move into nightclubs and legal sports stadiums and have police presence and sniffer dog presence.

I know I probably sound jaded, but I still have quite a few younger friends in syd who I chat to about this kind of stuff a bit, some are ravers and promoters and the games changed so much it's like nothing near or as much fun as it used to be, in some ways it is dangerous and alot more risky too these days by the sounds of it. I guess older people than me used to crap on about the hippy era and wood stock and shit, but personally I rekon the glory days of Aus raves were the best and nothing will beat them, I see clips of festivals and raves here in Aus and over seas on youtube, things like defqon1 and utopias and shit and they seem so commercial and the music seems to have lost alot of the meaning and creativity. Long live the 0055 era haha.

lol :)

/rant.
 
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Yep meant possible, in the sense that with the right money its probable that you could obtain all the necessary equipment/venue to hold the event (with the right choice of music) but i think this would revive only a fraction of the supposed old school experience. as outlined by your post it would be realistically impossible to reach anything close to the original movement, particularly due to the notion that the times have simply changed (introduction of social media, enhanced forms of communication, etc.)

but yeah IMO the bottom line is that the audience themselves have significantly changed and it would be likely that a decent amount of attendees (ie: "wrong types" you mentioned) would see a modern day rave an an excuse to fry out on pills rather than embrace the entire culture and music for what it is/was (It seems these days that if drugs were absolutely impossible to bring into stereosonic/future, at least half the people otherwise there wouldn't bother going). Furthermore with the music in existence today which you hear at festivals, i imagine it would be very hard for people to adapt to and appreciate the foundation electronic sounds which sparked a generation of ravers (eg jam and spoon) tunes which seemed much simpler in comparison. The original gen of ravers did not know any more than what they were hearing at the time so I can only imagine how appreciative they would have been to experience the raw initial steps in what eventually became the massive electronic music scene which forms a massive part of today's music industry.

Similarly on the audience front (and as much as I somewhat dislike complaining on the whole element of consumerism) consumerism I believe was something which diluted the whole idea of clubs and clubbing alike, and this would have likely stemmed from the overall increase in popularity of clubbing (or social gatherings as I like to call them nowadays). I was told by a source who was alive to experience the original rave movement that whilst it was all still underground in the early/mid 90's, it featured a congregation of people who were there for the music and all relative ego's were left at the door.. No dress codes, no unnecessary rejections, no bullshit or inequality which is very commonly seen in the clubbing of today; more people out to look fancy than breaking a sweat by busting a move. it's a common audience trait of the present and is perhaps another barrier as to furthermore prevent a proper re-enactment of a proper rave. I won't even get started on the police aspect of it all, will be typing forever haha

I like your use of the words "once semi-secret society of party heads", really highlights the fact that back then it didn't seem to be a trend/almost social obligation to engage in to gain acceptance amongst youthful society. It seemed as if it was mainly for those who gained genuine interest in raves, the accompanying music and pursued entry into the movement based on personal interest.

One can attempt to hold a 90's style rave in 2012 and one can wish them all the luck in the world but imo for the aforementioned reasons it would never be the same.. commercialism has already gotten its foot in the door before the rave has even occurred. (Apologies if many words to digest, for going a tad off-topic and for any accidental generalizations!)
 
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Yeah you nailed it. I agree with all that you have written, and I was there for alot of the events, it was hard to goto them all or you'd burn out, but me and friends kept going most weekends for almost 10 yrs, if we didn't go, we heard all about it from other friends who did or we'd read the reviews in mags such as 3d and halleluja (sp?) and juicy red apple. Hearing alot of the music for the first time was wicked, as we didnt have the net, and we shared things thru tapes, dj mixes and recording off dj radio (nik fish's musiquarium, patrick haf (hard as fuck) on 2ser, hi shock, gemma, acid ant, loads more did radio spots on certain stations that often went for 3 hrs or so of tunes and promos for parties, usually in the middle of the night.

Back in the early 90's everyone was accepted, it didn't matter what you wore, some people would rock up in heavy metal t shirts, or leather jackets, or suits, or whatever, and no one would care, there was a certain era around the early to mid 90's when i remember alot ravers wore baggy keppa style jeans, trainers and flano shirts, you could be trying to find a venue off a 0055 number out in some industrial area in the middle of the night and you would start to see groups around the area or at servos dressed this way hanging out or walking and you'd know you were getting close. But still once inside the event it really didn't matter what you were wearing or how you danced and what u looked like etc, or your age.

Later on more 'out there' stuff got more and more common too clothing wise, what is referred to as kandi ravers or kandi kids, in fluffy leg warmers, with elmo back packs and other kids style stuff, like pacifiers and all sorts of stuff.

It's funny how the scene changed so quickly really, my first raves when me and friends were 16 and 17, we were all the youngest there and the older crews of mainly english ravers would joke to us about how young we were and 'do your parents know where you are' etc (as the kick ass rave by Krackerjack productions called 'Does Your Mother Know' played on, promotion teams and dj's were predominately English as well, Sydney rave promoters like The Welsh Embassy, E productions, Krackerjack, Sweet Science, Tribal, were all english or had some english members as far as I recall - This vid which I posted up above was the first sweet science party and it shows how much older and how English based the scene was back then - This is around the time I first started going to events. I recall one of their next ones was dead as, hardly anyone went as another crew put on a big even on the same night and got all the numbers.

Sweet Science - 28/4/1991 - Full Video
http://youtu.be/UpxTpt-kMRc

It's worth a watch, as there's not much footage from back then really as far as i can find. Alot of these promotors and dj's and ravers from england stopped going and putting on events by the mid 90's and more and more scammers joined in to try and promote large scale events and make a killing, sometimes there would be upto 3 events on the same night, often 2 large ones and a smaller hardcore one, and some of them started calling the cops on the others if they found out where the venue was prior and other politics and dirty tricks came into play. Some events advertised certain live acts and dj's and they never showed and ravers would just have to put up with what went down.

But on a whole those kind of things were minimal, it was pretty amazing how consistent the events were, and every weekend without fail, there was always something on, and as I said sometimes 2 or 3 (especially on long weekends) often we would go from one to the other to find out where all our new mates were, and which ones had the big crowd and best vibe. The drugs were expensive, with pills often being flogged for $60 but duds were rare and they were often very strong, ticket prices were pretty low compared to today and the production on some of these events was awesome, Prodigy had one event with fake snow inside the warehouse from big snow machines, EON i think it was (or beyond?) had the ticket on a pair of 3d glasses that you could keep and wear inside the venue and trip out at the lasers and lights, some events would have 2 or 3 or more rooms of differing style with major set ups, and also chill out rooms from punos become legendary (punos upside down b2f being sound) punos started out doing warehouse raves, i recall a pretty killer party they did in mascot or botany back in the early 90's before they got known as the chill out people. A few events had hard core rooms in shipping containers and all sorts of things. Centrepoint tower got used, the international shipping terminal got used, glebe wheat silos, redfern rail yards, one of the old pitt st cinemas, the list goes on and on.

There seemed to be alot of freedom for promoters to find really amazing venues before anna woods death in '95, but even after that some still found good ones, but I think it became harder and harder, and most the english had left the scene, and the adults became less and less and young kids became more and more common (even 12, 13 and 14 yr olds)..

J&S ride in the night -

http://youtu.be/3Y7MgeHg0C8


Happy times. Peace
 
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Seriously, we need some serious dam raves in aus. We got stereosonic, futures but thats it really.

Last time I checked the drugs of choice at those two events (not raves!) were steroids, alcohol and fake tan.
http://www.facebook.com/OfficialFestivalPhotos?fref=ts - Mr Sterosonic ? lol wat.

At breakfest yesterday I actually witnessed a dude mixing protein powder in to a water bottle at the water filling tank and I did not see a gurner there all day... Somehow I don't think the rave/electronic music scene is coming back to what it used to be anytime soon. If anything it's getting further away than ever. Except for perhaps doofs though.
 
Last time I checked the drugs of choice at those two events (not raves!) were steroids, alcohol and fake tan.
http://www.facebook.com/OfficialFestivalPhotos?fref=ts - Mr Sterosonic ? lol wat.

At breakfest yesterday I actually witnessed a dude mixing protein powder in to a water bottle at the water filling tank and I did not see a gurner there all day... Somehow I don't think the rave/electronic music scene is coming back to what it used to be anytime soon. If anything it's getting further away than ever. Except for perhaps doofs though.

Hahah this cracked me up! Totally made my day :p
'weights before dates' *vomit*
 
Somehow I don't think the rave/electronic music scene is coming back to what it used to be anytime soon. If anything it's getting further away than ever. Except for perhaps doofs though.

Sad but true I think. The doofs may be the closest thing we have here in Aus to the old loved up, give randoms a hug and enjoy the music and vibe kind of days.
 
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