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we all know the bad, but is there anything GOOD about bein a dope addict?

Khadijah

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I was just thinkin this to myself earlier this mornin when i was remembering some of the tight situations I got myself out of with the worlds slickest bullshittin skills. And I was like , shit, at least that was one good thing I got outa bein a dopehead. and that inspired this thread.

Whether it was related to bein high, or dope related or not, I could lie my way out of a sealed room back in those days. I could manipulate, lie, persuade, convince, and sell any lie to just about any one back then. It aint somethin im proud of now, but that shit absolutely was a useful skill and helped me out many times. while bein a good-ass liar aint necessarily a good thing, especially to somebody who aint a junkie no more and is a generally good person without much need to bullshit people, in some situations it can still definately serve you well. So while it aint somethin I would exactly say i was PROUD to be, its a useful skill and I never woulda developed it to such a high level if i hadnt been a dope feen.

Anyways, can any of yall think of anything positive that came out of your junkie daze? Any good thing about bein a junkie? LIke I said--we all know the bad (cant stay awake during holiday dinners and your whole family sees you nod out in your plate, you cant posses any electronic device other than your cell phone for longer than it takes to sell/pawn/trade it for dope, and so on) but is there any upsides? Maybe your ability to keep even the worst, most serious emotions out of your mind, the fact that dope let you make it thru shit so depressing that lots of folks would commit suicide? Your impressive lying skills? Your ability to hustle up money out of thin air? Iunno, you tell me. Post it here.
 
I have absolutely no experience when it comes to his but im pretty interested to read the responses. Thats a really good question I never thought of before.
 
i like smack im trying to kick the habit i got 5 days clean :) and yeah lying is a skill heroin makes you a professional at you can lie to anyone and yourself ;)
 
some good shit ive learned from bein a dope head was dont trust ANYONE with your money, plan for the worst, and the "friends" you meet through gettin high arent really your friends
 
I'll bet you could hit a diabetic with some emergency insulin faster than anyone else around.

You can warn others about the dangers of using/abusing opiates.

That's all I got.
 
I think it really teaches you alot about yourself and about life. If you choose to open your eyes and understand the lesson.

The cycle continues as you search for something you've already found. However long it takes to understand this can easily determine the course of the rest of your life.
 
I'll bet you could hit a diabetic with some emergency insulin faster than anyone else around.
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Nah, Insulin is IM, dope is IV.

And the prize to wolfmans brother for being the first person in the thread to post a reply that actually answers the thread!;) (no offense to the rest of yall who posted before him)


Anyways, it is kinda hard now that you think of it right. we can all LOL for days in the 'you know you a junkie' thread and shit like that, talkin about all the bad shit and laughin about it, but when it comes to actual good things that came out of it, all we hear is some crickets, pretty much. guess that should tell us somethin, huh.....

I do agree that if nothin else, you sure do learn a whole fuckin lot about yourself. Some of it is shit you never wanted to know. but in the end, i can say one good thing about it is that it definately makes you stronger. did for me at least. You get thru that shit, you kick that habit successfully , it kinda gives u perspective on other tough situations in life and you realize how much easier shit seems, how much stronger you are now, you know?
 
I would guess that if you fully kick the habit, that you would come out a pretty damn strong person. From what is consistently posted on the forums, H withdrawals are a living hell and anyone who can fully get through them and not ever go back has to be someone with a shit ton of will power.
 
I feel like I've experienced a lot more than most people do because of my addiction. I have learned not to trust everyone and to detect bs. I have learned that I have strong willpower when it comes to quitting. I'm struggling right now but know that I have that strength in me because I've had 3 + years before without any drugs. Using has actually connected me with some good people too. Without that common bond, I don't think I would have made new friends. They are not all active addicts either. Actually the ones I talk to are not active anymore. So, overall, I feel I have gained some positive things from being a junkie. I think that the drama I've experienced makes me feel like I've lived and seen things others normally wouldn't. And also, feeling that rush and euphoria is like nothing else and is obviously why people use. The negative consequences and the price you end up paying for using though cause me to stop every time I relapse. If there were no negative consequences I really don't know if I would quit or want to.
 
i think that not being part of the social conditioning is a good part of being a junkie, i might think we have better reaction to huge stress...
 
If there were no consequences, everyone would get high.

Nah, you can bet there would still be people telling you you were a bad person for getting high, even if it was completely harmless, even if it was somehow proved that sobriety was toxic. At least junkies kind of have an excuse (a shitty one, but an excuse none the less) for being self-centered assholes, some people are just shitty no matter what.

FWIW, there was a time when I almost wanted to get hooked on H because I thought it would simplify life. Instead of worrying about school, friends, family, jobs, girlfriends...etc...etc, all that would be replaced by one concern. Yea, that's fucking stupid, but y'know, we can all be stupid if we get desperate enough.
 
ive talked about this with my therapists and even my mom once or twice. most people refuse to believe it but it obviously does have medicinal properties. if you're using it mainly to get high then its defeating these properties, overall, but:

1. The first month I started snorting then injecting dilaudid [first dope habit] I lost 99% of the acne on my face which was pretty bad before. My mom noticed this before me and it is indeed proven scientifically that opiates flush out the skin and can actually get rid of acne.

2. I also suddenly developed the ability to grow a decent-sized beard, whereas before I had none [this is probably coincidence though].

3. The music I was making went up about 7 levels in terms of impact and emotion [read: soul. but a crippled one, I guess].

4. It lowered my status in society which actually made me more understanding of other human beings and overall much more compassionate, although the "dope rage" kind of defeats this effect of addiction.

5. False positive: I thought I had discovered the holy grail. WRONG. It is really the throne of dirt, a la Johnny Cage.
 
I think the impact dope has had on the arts can't be overlooked either.
The writings of William S. Burroughs, Jim Carroll, and others.
The music of Hendrix, Alice in Chains, etc.
While all of these individuals were great talents that would have done great things, junk served a major role in their creativity.
 
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