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Ways to test Methoxetamine (MXE) purity by yourself/at home

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So perhaps this is a dumb question, but it certainly qualifies as risk-reduction in my mind, so maybe some of you can help me out...

For anyone who has done MXE you know that its effects are incredibly unique even to its closest (commonly used) relative ketamine. There aren't really drugs out there that mimic it's effects for a cheaper price like there are for MDMA such as methylone etc. Because of this it is uncommon that you will see drug "X" being passed off as MXE like you do with LSD or MDMA, particularly since its closest match ketamine costs more than twice as much in most cases. In fact, if anything it's the other way around. However dealers always find one way or another to rip off their buyers and MXE faces the particular problem of being cut with inactive powders pretty often or being of highly varying purity from one batch to the next.

So my question is, aside from sending your sample to a lab for analysis, if anything, what can people do in order to test the purity of their MXE or if it is MXE at all? I know that no home procedure can tell you what percentage purity your MXE is, but say you have 2gs of MXE both from different sources. Aside from qualitative comparisons of experiences at equal doses from the 2 separate batches, can any kind of do-it-yourself test be done to give a qualitative answer as to which is of greater purity?
Again I stress qualitative comparison, I know there is nothing you can do at home to tell whether your MXE is 97% or 99% pure I'm just wondering if there is some kind of reagent test to tell you which is more pure.

Thanks in advance!
-The Thizzkid
 
Nothing at home will be able to give you a percentage.
If you can find a testing reagent with reacts with MXE (none that I know of do) then you could compare between a known pure sample (also unlikely to have/know that you have) and compare it with your product.
Use the same sized sample for each and test which one changed color the fasted/most dramatically.
This will give you an EXTREMELY rough estimate as to purity, emphasis on the extremely rough.
Soooo basically, no
 
Okay, thanks. Thats kind of the answer I was expecting. I cant think of anything that specificly reacts with mxe; its a pretty unique chemical. Thanks for the response.
I wish MXE werent such an easy drug to cut :/
 
I do a burn test to gauge purity relative to other batches I've tested, and use a smell test as it vapes for additional verification, knowing what 99.5% purity smells like (kinda like a sweetish fragrant smell, almost floral). As for the visual aspect of the burn test, pure stuff will first melt translucent and then become purple before going orange/red and then finally disappearing from the tinfoil completely with little to no residue. More leftover residue indicates more impurity, and anything that turns black at the same a temperature where the MXE simply vaporizes or turns purple/red is also an indicator of impurities. This test is far from perfect because I'm sure there are also impurities that vaporize at the same temp as the MXE. Just make sure you only get it hot enough to where the MXE starts to vaporize.
 
This is a very good question indeed. I have acquired some MXE recently, which I started to take carefully. It was from a spanish vendor; the color looked odd.

I started on one mg, to test for allergic reaction or mislabeling... Nothing. Then, 10 mg... Nothing. 20 mg... Nothing. 30 mg... nothing.

This went on until I got to the highest dosage that I mustered up the nerve to take, 120 mg in one go. This is against my principles because this was obviously a tainted batch.

Result, my head ached for the next day afterwards and I was not high in any way, shape or form that night. Very weird.

Jesus, sometime I think I might as well go back to buying from the street whatever is going around. Better some cut ketamine then that bullshit. Who knows what the fuck we are all buying with RC's. Unless you have a lab at home, it seems very difficult to have proof of quality...
 
You can use reagent tests to establish identity and then use a minimal dosage to see if you feel it.

Of good MXE, after a month of abstinence, I can feel 5mg orally. Its not unlike drinking half a neat Bacardi for me. Then I take 30mg orally, my standard amount, and see if I get the typical degree of intoxication. If it does that both, its high potency.

If you have selfcontrol its a good idea to, if you found a good source, spend a month without weed and use the money to buy a shitton of MXE. Its wonderful, and its not going to be around forever. Soon it will be like 4-MeO-PCP: near impossible to source.
 
danharper01 said:
You can use water to test general purity.

Impure Methoxetamine will have parts that don't dissolve, or take forever in the water.
I believe hearing the impurities will remain at the top after you give the MXE time to dissolve.
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and what if the impurities happen to be soluble in water?
 
sekio said:
TLC plates.
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That will work if you a) have a suitable solvent and b) have a means of applying a very small drop to the TLC plate so that it does not become too diffuse. Additionally, there are *many* types of separation gels, ranging from size exclusion to polarity to ion exchange resins. And then you've got to be able to visualize the compounds that have migrated on the plate.

Preparative TLC has an advantage in that you can scrape the eluted compounds off the plate, gather the portions from a number of plates and force the compound away from the gel (with an appropriate solvent), providing enough material for further analysis (melting point, etc). Although one can easily do TLC chromatography at home, most people will not have access to a wide enough variety of solvents and additional equipment to do anything really useful with this method.

Tom
 
I have 2 grams that are cut 50/50 inositol/MXE, is there a way to get rid of the inositol?? sekio... do you have any advice, any at all about what to do would be greatly appreciated
 
thanks for all the input guys I appreciate the help!
Clocktower especially, that ws a helpful thread and that OP had an exquisitely similar name as well....too weird haha.
Anyway thank you guys, please keep answering, but I'm probably going to start another thread as well regarding what can be done to further purify a batch of MXE (like an acetone wash would further purify extracted mescaline for example)

someone on this thread has asked a smilar question, and it would certainly ease my curiosity as well, so youll see that thread soon....
Thanks again everyone and feel free to keep adding info!
 
DragonFly31 said:
This is a very good question indeed. I have acquired some MXE recently, which I started to take carefully. It was from a spanish vendor; the color looked odd.

I started on one mg, to test for allergic reaction or mislabeling... Nothing. Then, 10 mg... Nothing. 20 mg... Nothing. 30 mg... nothing.

This went on until I got to the highest dosage that I mustered up the nerve to take, 120 mg in one go. This is against my principles because this was obviously a tainted batch.

Result, my head ached for the next day afterwards and I was not high in any way, shape or form that night. Very weird.

Jesus, sometime I think I might as well go back to buying from the street whatever is going around. Better some cut ketamine then that bullshit. Who knows what the fuck we are all buying with RC's. Unless you have a lab at home, it seems very difficult to have proof of quality...
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Sounds like tiletamine!

A friend had a batch from sketchy company he washed with acetone... 150 mgs lost 70 mgs from the wash , leaving 80 mgs of a dissociative (tested like MXE as well, orange and light clear yellow with marquis and mecke) ... Friend decided to intra-rectally dose the 80 mgs because it wasn't doing much... He went down like a rhino hit with a blowdart. Perhaps polar bear is more accurate? He had TERRIBLE headaches, sensitivity to light, intense (not pleasurable) dissociation... Concluded product was 1/2 tiletamine, an inert something, and a local anesthetic.

We concluded it was tiletamine cut with something. After the wash , it wasn't numbing (it was before, but not in the right way).

Pure MXE has a VERY pronounced local anesthetic effect. Strong or stronger than cocaine.

We had to bring him back to earth with some nootropics. After effects lasted a few days.

I can dig up Mercke/Mecke test result pictures of known quality MXE if anyone is so interested.

-lenses
 
lenses said:
Sounds like tiletamine!

A friend had a batch from sketchy company he washed with acetone... 150 mgs lost 70 mgs from the wash , leaving 80 mgs of a dissociative (tested like MXE as well, orange and light clear yellow with marquis and mecke) ... Friend decided to intra-rectally dose the 80 mgs because it wasn't doing much... He went down like a rhino hit with a blowdart. Perhaps polar bear is more accurate? He had TERRIBLE headaches, sensitivity to light, intense (not pleasurable) dissociation... Concluded product was 1/2 tiletamine, an inert something, and a local anesthetic.

We concluded it was tiletamine cut with something. After the wash , it wasn't numbing (it was before, but not in the right way).

Pure MXE has a VERY pronounced local anesthetic effect. Strong or stronger than cocaine.

We had to bring him back to earth with some nootropics. After effects lasted a few days.

I can dig up Mercke/Mecke test result pictures of known quality MXE if anyone is so interested.

-lenses
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Thanks for this reponse. I was vaguely hoping for one...

I decided to wash my horrible baggy of useless powder down the toilet. Always a hard thing to do when so much effort and money is spent.
 
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