Washing and Recrystalising Meth

[glasserotica]

This method is spot on.

 

[alisonwonderment]

This method is spot on.

What do you think have gone wrong that he had to toss it? It seemed a lot like what people have described me in the past, but it’s so long ago I couldn’t remember all of it, not even close lol

 

[DsMfCooked]

Can someone look at this and tell me it's Nonsense.
I've only ever known the acetone method and the whole article feels like rubbish.

www.hennepinhealthcare.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/Acetone-Wash.pdf

 

[Omlovepeace]

Does this process clean xylazine from meth?

 

[iknowthatdog2]

I usually just swallow the meth. Would acetone wash still make it safer of ingestion?

 

[iknowthatdog2]

www.hennepinhealthcare.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/Acetone-Wash.pdf

I also saw the above method. Seems much easier to do, and i have a friend who does it for me, but i will ask him to make a few adjustments so it is done like the method above. Not sure I believe in this. I've also read that you should wash it repeatedly with distilled water, which i believe would dissolve the meth. I am no chemist. Get your points out.

 

[chem_guy]

Do you know the right process to wash and recrystalize? I tried the method above as what was mentioned above it didn't work. I am just trying to clean some crap I got a while back to see a what I can get back if anything, I have between a 1/2 to 3/4oz to clean
Any help would be greatly appreciated

 

[xXTheGrimOneXx]

Quick question guys. If one were to dry out the epsom salt(as described above), and then put it in the 95%ethanol the same way you describe adding it to then acetone, would it make it anthydrous? Or is it more so that the 5% h20 in ethanol, as an azetrope, cannot be removed that easily.

You can add the dried Epsom salts or magnesium sulfate. Just make sure it’s dry. Epsom salt takes sometime in the oven usually 2-3 hours at 250-300F. Little tip. Put some parchment paper or aluminum foil on your baking sheet. Also cover it so it doesn’t make a mess in your oven. Learned that the hard way. 2 cups at 300f after 2 hours it looked like it snowed in my oven.)

Add the dried Epsom and shake. If it settles out quickly you need more. I’ve found that about 1/4 of the volume of the solvent bottle seems to be enough. You want it to look like a snow globe when you’ve added enough. Let that settle. There will be a layer that forms on the bottom of your solvents. That’s the water bound to the Epsom salts. Don’t use that to wash. You’ll loose all your gear and contaminate it with MgS04. That will
Fuck you up.

Only other option is to use silica gel or molecular sieves like they do in a lab.

You are 100% correct about alcohol being an azeotropic mix. It only takes around 30ml of H20 to dissolve one gram of meth so Definitely want things dried to Anhydrous or you’ll loose a lot. And water takes longer to evaporate, it also carries most of the cuts too. As water is a universal solvent.

Can’t hurt to add some of the saved dried Epsom to add every time you use the solvents.

 

[xXTheGrimOneXx]

Do you know the right process to wash and recrystalize? I tried the method above as what was mentioned above it didn't work. I am just trying to clean some crap I got a while back to see a what I can get back if anything, I have between a 1/2 to 3/4oz to clean
Any help would be greatly appreciated

Obtain your bag, grind it to as fine of a powder as possible to achieve the most surface area possible.

Wash with Anhydrous Acetone. Allow to
Dry fully. This won’t remove sugar, caffeine, or fentanyl.

You’d be better off doing an A/B extraction then gassing it with HCL gas and precipitate the meth out as a HCL salt.

 

[xXTheGrimOneXx]

If you recrystalize properly there shouldnt be any need to wash your product with anything.
Also, if you do wash with acetone, dry the acetone with epsom salts first to remove any water that will, as you suggested, dissolve the meth.
To do this:
1) Empty a cup or two of epsom salts on to cookie sheet or baking dish or whatnot and stick in the oven on 350F for about 3 hours.
2) Remove and break up the larger chunks.
3) Throw the salts in the acetone container and shake it up real good.
4) Let it settle. There you go. Dry Acetone.
Now just decant off what you need.

I highly recommend lining your baking try with either parchment paper or foil. Then cover the salts while they dehydrate. Shit gets everywhere in your oven. Ask me how I know lol.

When addding the dried Epsom salts you don’t want them to sink to The bottom. You want it to look like a snow globe. That’s how you know you’ve added enough to remove the water.

It will be a little layer of sludge on the bottom. Whatever you do don’t use that shit. You’ll not only dissolve your bag, but Epsom salts are a bitch to Get out of your gear. Trust me. You’ll know if you have a shit supplier who cuts with that shit.

 

[llamer]

Bumping. A question and advice-comment:

Is anyone actually appreciating the changes in their material after doing these acetone washes? As in, is it worth it, is it noticeable? I don't doubt that it's wise to do (think of all the fingers it's touched before it got into your special little hands on its long road north), but since the stuff has likely been washed after synthesis, and most of the cuts people are interested in removing aren't soluable in acetone, the benefit of this is hazy to me so far. But I'd like to hear more experiences.

One piece of advice tho on acetone washes of water-bearing material:

The recrystalization is always a good idea, as it gives us the step to dry out the meth before washing, and so avoids unwanted waste. While we are right to recognize the need for dry acetone, it's often overlooked that Meth is hygroscopic similarly needs to be dry as it likely will contain water itself - which in turn will absorb into the acetone and dissolve some of the meth, flushing it out with the wash meaning you will lose product when you wash. Not a ton, but some - depends on the stash and the state of its water content. Powder absorbs the most from ambient air and should be avoided until it can be crystalized and dried before washing (eg old skool pnbutter crank paste), but even basic street meth crystals can be quite damp and introduct water which will diminish yeilds in your wash. Hence it'd be wise to dry one's stash just as you would the acetone prior to washing.

Thankfully it's easy to dry: Gently heat your meth in the microwave on medium setting for a minute or two, leaving it on a bed of paper towels and ideally with an open cup of dried epsom salt or other dry dessicant next to it. Start with half power for 30 seconds and keep going in short cycles until the crystals feel more compact and dry; the paper towel may feel damp telling you it's working. Heating in a dry environment with a hair dryer is also an option if you can keep it contained in paper towel and not blowing away (this is how crystals are dried after crystalization, gently blowing on them in the tray after they finish growing). You could also dry meth by putting it in an airtight container along with some dry desiccant in advace of the wash if you have time to prepare, the dessicant will absorb the water and dry out the meth over time. So long as there is enough in there to attract all the moisture that would work fine, bone dry epsom or damp-rid pouches, one or two days.

I mention this because the loss of product from a less-than-dry acetone wash isn't negligible - I've washed d-meth powder from SnB cooks using very dry acetone and still hung onto the discard afterward when it was clear that the gummy waste contained good speed that was a notable cut of my yeild. The issue went away if I crystalized then dried before washing, leaving behind only unwanted residue in the rinse to discard.

This specifically I've seen with meth but I would do this as a rule since I know anecdotally some things also wont stay dry in humid environments (coke, so I'm told). Unless I knew that whatever I'm cleaning is naturally nonpolar or unlikely to contain water (i.e. any non-water soluble drug) then I'd say it's a good idea to always dry both solvent and product when doing a wash.

 

[iMZer0]

What if I'm just washing a couple grams. Is the loss insignificant at that scale?

 

[xXTheGrimOneXx]

What if I'm just washing a couple grams. Is the loss insignificant at that scale?

Your solvents mush be anhydrous. (Dry). .5ml of water can dissolve nearly a gram of meth.

You need new solvents and a desiccant to absorb the water.

The acetone being anhydrous and ice cold reduces the already minimal amount the acetone takes.

Most of your loss is mechanical from filtering. Save the filter papers up for a rainy day.

 

[iMZer0]

Your solvents mush be anhydrous. (Dry). .5ml of water can dissolve nearly a gram of meth.

You need new solvents and a desiccant to absorb the water.

The acetone being anhydrous and ice cold reduces the already minimal amount the acetone takes.

Most of your loss is mechanical from filtering. Save the filter papers up for a rainy day.

I have Klean Strip acetone. On the can is printed max. VOC: 3%. Is this ok?

 

[DoubleD91]

I highly recommend lining your baking try with either parchment paper or foil. Then cover the salts while they dehydrate. Shit gets everywhere in your oven. Ask me how I know lol.

When addding the dried Epsom salts you don’t want them to sink to The bottom. You want it to look like a snow globe. That’s how you know you’ve added enough to remove the water.

It will be a little layer of sludge on the bottom. Whatever you do don’t use that shit. You’ll not only dissolve your bag, but Epsom salts are a bitch to Get out of your gear. Trust me. You’ll know if you have a shit supplier who cuts with that shit.

 

[DoubleD91]

You say Epsom salt is a bitch to get out of meth. I can't tell, but my shit turns orange real quick like on the first heat in the pipe. If it is Epsom salt, it would be my mistake by pouring out Acetone that has Epsom salt in it to dry the Acetone. It could be sugar though because that is actually what I smell. I appreciate any advice from you

 

[Syntherize]

Anyone trying to practice chemistry without studying and/or understanding it is a complete fool that will either end up losing their product or killing themselves. That’s not wise nor is it how knowledgeable people work at these things.

 

[Syntherize]

You say Epsom salt is a bitch to get out of meth. I can't tell, but my shit turns orange real quick like on the first heat in the pipe. If it is Epsom salt, it would be my mistake by pouring out Acetone that has Epsom salt in it to dry the Acetone. It could be sugar though because that is actually what I smell. I appreciate any advice from you

Are you seriously drying epsom salt filled acetone without properly pouring it thru a filter of some sort in order to try to recrystallize the meth? Stop doing meth and go back to school or learn chemistry online because you are just doing amateur stupid shit that makes you look like an idiot.

P.S. Yes orange/brownish coloring when heating meth is usually due to some type of sugar and/or another contaminant.

 

[Didgital]

P.S. Yes orange/brownish coloring when heating meth is usually due to some type of sugar and/or another contaminant.

Ok well, then the recrystallization is in order as sugar is essentially insoluble in isopropyl while MAMP is slightly soluble in boiling isopropyl. Crush the material up and dissolve in boiling 99% isopropyl alcohol, the sugar won't dissolve and you can filter/decant, then evaporate the alcohol or stick it in a freezer.