Opioids Wash?

[OnToNeverland]

I've tried the search engine, but with no luck...

Just out of curiousity, about how many mgs would you say is left in the wash (or second shot), particularly of a roxi 30. Then so on to the 3rd and 4th shot..Hell I've seen people hit the same fucking pill 6 times. I'm sure there are lots of factors that come into play like units of water and whatnot, but I'm not looking for an exact. Just a rough guesstimate.

Now before I get flammed for shooting pills, I realize the dangers and know the consequences. I'm just wanting to know if the wash(es) is/are truly worth it, because I've literally turned myself into a human pin cushion on many occasions.

thanks in advance =).

 

[canucka]

it isnt worth it considering the damage you do to your veins by flushing..
and whatever residual amount of roxi that is left in the plunger [like what, 5%?] won't do shit..
I know how it is.. how one feels the need to get the most out of whatever they're shooting.. but it wont get you much higher in addition to that initial shot, so IMHO it isnt worth doin..

 

[Foul Play]

^ Agreed.

That's probably a fair estimate of any residual oxycodone left after a shot, so you'd be looking at 1 or 2 mg out of a wash.

 

[dimethyltrypt]

If your to the point of banging roxys, your not going to feel shit off of anything that would be left in that.

 

[BaybeX]

Honestly, with first-hand experience, I'll disagree.
Though I used to be totally against shooting pills, and especially washing and reshooting..
I've gotten decent hits off of a second wash.
But then again, I was already high- so I dunno.

 

[OnToNeverland]

I'm not talking about the medicine that's left in the syringe. I'm talking about the substantial amout of residue left in the spoon, can, botte lid, or whatever one uses. I've been around tons and tons of roxi/oxy shooters and I haven't seen a single one of them just wipe the left-overs away without repeating the whole process at least once.

 

[BaybeX]

^Right, that's what I'm saying.. the 'reshoot'.
I usually do it just once with the residue and get a decent amount back.
Most of the time I just make two shots.. I have 3/10cc rigs so I can't fit a ton in it.
I do about 90mgs a shot and so I get most of it in the first rig and then some in the second then do a the reshoot in the second rig as well.

 

[OnToNeverland]

oh yeah sorry about that baybex.. I was making it clear to the posters above you.. they seemed a little strayed by my initial question, or maybe didn't quite understand.

I guess one really wouldn't understand exactly what I'm talking about unless they've done it too

 

[BaybeX]

Yes, sir.

I think one wash is worth it.. if your veins aren't too fucked.
Other than that, I don't think it's worth it.

 

[OnToNeverland]

any idea on about how many mgs though? Because like you, I've felt a decent rush off of a wash and this is when I wasn't high.

 

[Georgie25]

Most of the residue left over from shooting suboxone, oxy, roxi, etc is the binder and fillers in the spoon that you want the cotton to filter out anyways. So even if there was a little bit in there, it's not worth it IMO cuz anything that didn't dissolve isn't the stuff you want to put in your veins anyway.

 

[dimethyltrypt]

Most of the residue left over from shooting suboxone, oxy, roxi, etc is the binder and fillers in the spoon that you want the cotton to filter out anyways. So even if there was a little bit in there, it's not worth it IMO cuz anything that didn't dissolve isn't the stuff you want to put in your veins anyway.

Elegantly put, and what I was getting at.

 

[OnToNeverland]

how can one be sure that all of the oxy has completely dissolved in the first round though? Is that a guarantee everytime?

It may sound a little ridiculous, but when I'm spending large quantities of money daily, you better believe I'm gonna try to get every penny.

I'm working on getting help btw, just before people start tell me that I need it lol.

 

[dimethyltrypt]

I'm not gonna tell you to get help. Worthless. As long as you crush it well and use water with an appropriate PH, etc, your going to be good with one wash. Oxy dissolved readily in water, the binders and fillers don't dissolve nearly as well as oxy.

 

[Georgie25]

Because when you add water to the crushed oxy the oxy becomes soluble in the water so unless you aren't sucking up all the water for some reason there shouldn't be any oxy left in the spoon.

 

[Jabberwocky]

any idea on about how many mgs though? Because like you, I've felt a decent rush off of a wash and this is when I wasn't high.

there's no way possible we're going to be able to give you a figure on how much is going to be left over unless you were to take the leftovers and have it tested.

oxycodone is freely water soluble, 100mg/mL, so unless you're not prepping your pills efficiently you're going to have the majority of the drug in your shot.

there is active drug left in the filter and spoon so once you've finished drawing up you shot it's easy enough to add some more water into the mix and rinse the filter out a little more thorough.

generally it's not worth a second shot, and easy enough to eat or plug what is left over as they've both for high BA's as well and you're saving your veins the extra hole. or add an extra bit of water at the end and hopefully get most the rest.

 

[OnToNeverland]

Sounds good enough to me. Thanks for the advice.
However, I think a major part of my addiction is the needle itself. So maybe this is why I'm so concerned with a second shot?

 

[Jabberwocky]

it's definitely a likely cause, the needle fixation. i know i went through a stage where i would do a second wash no matter what for a good period of time when i was still shooting methamphetamine because i love the act of shooting up. you soon learn the insoluble shit is the shit you don't want.

 

[toolfan420]

it's definitely a likely cause, the needle fixation. i know i went through a stage where i would do a second wash no matter what for a good period of time when i was still shooting methamphetamine because i love the act of shooting up. you soon learn the insoluble shit is the shit you don't want.

^^^ some good advice right here by leftwing. Unless you're doing huge shots you aren't going to really notice anything from a second other than placebo.

 

[Korn3x]

any idea on about how many mgs though? Because like you, I've felt a decent rush off of a wash and this is when I wasn't high.

i've experienced the same thing with both shooting ritalin, and with shooting oxy and dilaudid. i try to use as much water as possible for the first injection, and i always prepare my shots using a "filter syringe" stuffed with cotton to the 10unit mark.

the other day i put 4 roxi's in a rig (which is kind of pushing the limits i think with how much water is available for the shot), and had trouble getting all of the powder to dissolve all the way since some was still "dry" near the cotton of my filter syringe. i just pushed the plunger down and collected the filtered blue solution into a spoon, and then redrew in a clean syringe and shot away. to my surprise a few hours later i saw some blue coloration still in the powder in a section that must have not been exposed to water. i ended up getting a second rush, which was awesome. I know technically this scenario doesn't qualify as a true second wash, since i failed to mix the powder up as effectively initially, but as i said before, i too have experienced second rushes even with dilaudid.

to me, a second wash on the contents is practically a must with pills. i feel like i get a lot more out of it. also, instead of always shooting a second shot, sometimes i just plug all of the powder that is left. i get the powder out by cutting the "filter syringe" with a pair of scissors, and then i use a needless syringe to insert any remaining contents up da bum lol.