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******WARNING****** - Potentially TOXIC aMT in the UK *********

After testing said batch several times, I am not entirely convinced it is pure. I noted that 30mg was museum level with this batch, compared to 20mg of older batches. I assumed inert cut + minor tolerance. However, this batch, when the dose is pushed is very different to how I remember - my usual empath/psych wonderland became akin to a psychotic, dysphoric, paranoid stimulant with fiending.
IME: said batch feels like 3,4CTMP or another such compound mixed in.

#speculation from experience.
 
Transform said:
I believe they test everything sent in, and in any case they also appear to have incorrectly identified the sample they did test.
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What do you mean by this?

You appear to have sent two samples yes? Some AMT and something else. You are saying they didn't test the AMT.

Are you also saying the one they did test they got wrong? How do you know this?

Just interested in clarity.
 
I keep meaning to make a proper post about it. The other sample was sold methylmethaqualone. The yellow solid (100% water insoluble) form was active around 5mg yet it has been identified as etaqualone. The white powder which contaminated the batch (water soluble) is inactive at this dose but has also been identified as etaqualone.

I know two things for a fact:
1. Etaqualone is not active below 100mg.
2. These two compounds are pharmacologically and chemically distinct and cannot be the same compounds.


Therefore I conclude that under no circumstances can both samples be etaqualone. What I believe has happened is that they do not have a reference for MMQ and have matched it closely enough to the analytics for ETQ without bothering to investigate further, despite my including a detailed explanation.

My doubts of their competence are further supported by their failure to measure all the samples. I have sent an envelope in the past where both samples have never been tested.


3. MMQ has the same molecular mass as ETQ. This might lead an inexperienced technician to confuse the two in mass spec.
 
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Yes, they were three separate samples with three separate forms. When I said "in there" I meant in the envelope.
 
The analysis of this compound suggests that it was pure aMT all along.

http://wedinos.tripsit.me/result/W002728

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It is worth noting that I do not have a lot of faith in the WEDINOS program but given that there isn't any strong evidence to suggest that this was not aMT I think we can conclude that taking 200mg of aMT is not safe.
 
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Transform said:
The analysis of this compound suggests that it was pure aMT all along.

It is worth noting that I do not have a lot of faith in the WEDINOS program but given that there isn't any strong evidence to suggest that this was not aMT I think we can conclude that taking 200mg of aMT is not safe.
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Thanks for getting it tested. <3
 
I ve not been posting very often these days but FFS. 200mg of AMT. I ve never taken AMT but surely any basic dosage check would of said this was a mega dose.

Bluelight fails in HR again. ........ no actually bluelight members fails HR again.

Well done for getting this confirmed though. Hopefully no one else will dive into 200mg and near death. We have lost too many in EADD in 18 months or so..
 
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