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******WARNING****** - Potentially TOXIC aMT in the UK *********

Sorry. I thought I put a comment here but mustnt have pressed 'send.'

So very sorry for what you both have endured n so incredibly pleased that none of you died.

That would have been terrible to lose more EADDers especialky after we sadly lost Knock this year :(

Thank you for taking the time to warn us all.

Brimz also had similar after taking aMT I 'm wondering if it was cut with same stuff / from same vendor.

TES - I can see where you're coming from re: naming vendor, however , I think that would be an incredibly dangerous thing to do. Reason being is that we have a lot of addicts amongst us n addict-thinking tends to be "substance is more important than the idea od dying." No joke. I was told I could die lots during my addictions n I basically just learnt to be good at manipulating people in that I'd act shocked at the prospect but not give two shit as long s I had my DoC.

Another reason being is that some people are chancers n will tend to think "just cause it happened to them doesn't mean it won't happen to me I can't pass up a deal like this."

There are a LOT of vulnerable people on EADD n thus may not of rational mind (i
mean no offence when I say that) n thus giving those types of people vender info could be doing the opposite of harm reduction. It may also bring a lot of unwanted attention - n negativity to Bluelight, in my opinion.

Pagey n mrscientist - I wish you both well n thanks for warning thread <3 xxxx

Evey
 
Chatative said:
We had this discussion in the staff forums & although could see reason to do so, decided it wasn't appropriate to in this instance.
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Yeah, I get ya <3 Even if you post 'so and so site has dodgy chems' there's still gonna be someone who thinks 'oh look cheap drugs and also they are legal' and then ugh.
 
Transform said:
I wonder if pagey's had this note on it
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I believe they did contact the vendor, so it's quite possible that this was put on in response to that. The specific mention of the half price sale would make it seem likely.

snolly said:
Yeah, I get ya <3 Even if you post 'so and so site has dodgy chems' there's still gonna be someone who thinks 'oh look cheap drugs and also they are legal' and then ugh.
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Yeah it's just a case of weighing up the pros & cons. I think if there had been a series of incidents then we might have made an exception to name the vendor for HR reasons.
 
In the absence of any contrary evidence & considering we have had no other cases come to light, it seems like it was. There are some great posts by Jesusgreen on the previous page to that effect...
 
Pagey said:
Hi,

Just popping in to warn aMT lovers in the UK/anyone ordering from UK websites that myself, mrcientist and a third friend found ourselves in intensive care/the lovely defribrillating room for hours last weekend with serious cardiac issues and unending seizures etc. after taking aMT purchased from a UK vendor which we previously considered reputable. Pay special attention to vendors over-selling their aMT at reduced prices due to the upcoming ban - the doctors in the ICU and urgent care ward speculated multiple times that it may have been a 'dodgy batch', and had we not gotten to hospital it's pretty likely we would have died.

Please please pleaaase be careful - it was the most excruciatingly physically and emotionally painful experience of our lives.
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Pagey, this is the second time in the space of a year that you've misdosed on research chemicals and ended up in hospital fighting for your life. Add in all the times you've deliberately overdosed and you must be quite a regular at your local intensive care unit. And you wonder why the staff treat you disdainfully?

Really need to think about what you're doing. There's only so many times you'll get away with careless drug intake.
 
Maybe the vendors just got sold some dodgy batches by the Chinese labs and use the excuse of an impending ban to shift the product.

Lately I've been finding EPH from UK sites to be even worse than I remembered. Smelly, bad after effects, quality standards down.
 
For AMT heads what is considered to be close to the upper limit of recreational/less dangerous doses? I've never tried it myself (and tbh stuff like this thread and other things I've read have put me off generally) but I have a mate who's getting into it, had a sesh with him last weekend (him and a couple of people on AMT and me and my girl on 5-Meo-DALT) where he took about 90mg and said it wasn't enough for him and wanted to do much more next time, after stuff like this thread though high doses of this stuff scare me quite a bit though and I don't want him to end up fucking himself up in a negative way really. Dunno if it's possible to safely get the effects he wants from AMT (nutty visuals etc), might be better for me to suggest him something like AL-LAD mixed with a bit of MD for visuals and the high... Still not exactly safe but better than intensive care...
 
I agree with ya mate. aMT is in my own personal opinion considerably more risky a proposition than either Al-Lad or LSz. I highly recomend you attempt to ease your mate away from aMT in high doses & onto the new lysergides. If someone wishes to trip hard, they should really try to source some safe material, such as LSD or it's legal derivatives. Pushing the dose on aMT is quite a bit more dangerous to health & life.
 
worth remembering that tripping on the same substance often can lead to incredible tolerance levels, which may a part in your friends tolerance towards effects. 90mg would floor me for a day.
 
Yeah his tolerance to psychedelics is pretty high, I think he thinks that he doesn't do them that often but he's probably tripped more in the last couple of months than I have this whole year lol. Less is definitely more sometimes... AL-LAD and LSZ definitely seem like safer options, hopefully he'll listen to advice about taking a break for a little bit beforehand.
 
kingme said:
worth remembering that tripping on the same substance often can lead to incredible tolerance levels, which may a part in your friends tolerance towards effects. 90mg would floor me for a day.
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StreetHalo91 said:
Yeah his tolerance to psychedelics is pretty high, I think he thinks that he doesn't do them that often but he's probably tripped more in the last couple of months than I have this whole year lol. Less is definitely more sometimes...
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aMT tolerance can certainly build quite quickly if you take it on successive days/redose but tolerance drops away rather quickly. I couldn't really comment on cross tolerance.

I certainly think that less is more can definitely come into play with aMT... low doses can be just as rewarding. Potentiating it with some cannabis really does wonders too... no need to play with dangerously high doses.
 
Unbelievable. I sent the sample to wedinos and they tested the other I put in there but didn't test the aMT! I am starting to doubt their competence a bit actually.
 
Can you imagine how much shite they have wo wade through? Sent in by the sort bloke who clogs up A&E for a bit of man-flu, probably sends his dried Lager puke in for testing...

They seriously do not have an easy job & they are performing a very, very valuable service, the first of its kind in the UK. There are simply bound to be teething troubles. Cut 'em some slack & lets hope they up their game!
 
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I believe they test everything sent in, and in any case they also appear to have incorrectly identified the sample they did test.

I love that they exist but I am very frustrated by the lack of any commentary, no permalinks to results, no contactability and minimal transparency.
 
so what you re saying is that you sent several samples and they only looked at one, and wrongly identified it too?
it sounds a bit more like a harard than anything else... it could end up in a dangerous situation actually.
 
Yeah, and I'm not impressed. Can't get hold of any contacts there either to discuss it/their reference standards.
 
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