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WARNING! Possible Ultrastrong Batch of Heroin in the Manchester/NW Area

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Just to let you all know, there is some heroin currently going (going and I bet gone too quick enough because I got a phonecall telling me to come and come running if I wanted any from a friend of mine, saying he's not had anything like this stuff in YEARS, might have said decades, can't remember, one of the two. Selling like hot cakes in auschwitz after liberation thereof.



The H is very light tan with a grey tinge, slight greyish tinge to it. Its rocky, with smaller granular/powdery mixed texture but primarily chunks, mine came in little thin plastic wrapped twists, tied in a knot at the top.
No matter your tolerance, WATCH OUT and BE FUCKING CAREFUL!!!! do NOT mess with this shit without care and attention. I haven't yet IV'ed any at all because it is...words fucking fail me utterly for once.
But to put the potency in perspective, I'm a longterm chronic pain patient, 15 years MINIMUM, from codeine/DHC/DHC-XR to oxy to fentanyl to oxy back again (both as oxycontin 80s, and yes, I shot a lot of those fucking things, but went in the day after the fent script because A-it was shit, B-had nothing to tide me over to absorption of adequate plasma levels and C-I shot the fucking lot, every last patch in the same day I got it, and wanted no more, I wanted oxy back again and I don't much give a damn for oxy either. I give less of one for fent.

Current tolerance is equal to a full gram of intravenous morphine sulfate (pharm) or more, I'd not dare go above 1.5g IV in one belt, well not and feel total confidence in my safety.

Picked up 5x£20 bags of the same dealer's dope day before yesterday, shot some of them smoked the rest, stuffed the dregs from my cottons up my ass=D


Nice enough, nice enough not bad, decent night spent playing video games and chain smoking rollups like a crack addicted coal fed power station cooling tower. Fed on coals made of crack.

THIS stuff......jesus christ, I have never, ever ever seen any commercial dope like it. Not even close.

Got back home with my score, plus a bit more, thank you to who is responsible. Birthday not going to be a total drag now. Sat my arse down on the sofa, loaded my pipe, sprinkled a line out on foil too, and hit a toke or two from the pipe and PART of what I'd laid out, of ONE BAG, and the next thing I know, after jumping up off my ass and trying to say 'fuck me! WOW!' and it coming out more as 'squeeeeee iikk ikksqueekkeeeeee' was one more, maybe two more inhalations. And then four or five hours later waking up again.

This is, or at least yesterday as of late evening was going around the manchester area and people apparently going berserk about (not because of, about) it.
This will put you flat on your fucking back guys.

Light, light tan, grey tinges, 20 wraps are in little thin plastic tied up twists to make bags. Its insanely potent, and should be treated with the greatest of caution. Yes, its good shit, very, very very enjoyable.

Taste is unusually bitter, more so than morphine sulfate in concentrated (saturated, aqueous) solution, when the H is vaporised. just for the love of fucking bollocks on a bike, don't mess with it if you don't know what your doing, do NOT inject, if your not tolerant. I don't want to see any corpses here, I don't think I've got any enemies on BL. Not that I know of anyway.

Total opioid naiive folks....*IF* you use this stuff, start TINY, and smoke it only, do not do it any other way, and smoke it carefully, slowly. It boils at a low temperature compared to other street dope I've had, and it runs freely after melting into the typical H looking dark melt. But unusually freeflowing and very unusually low melting and low vaporisation temperature. Stuff packs a punch like an RPG-7

I am not joking, don't post this warning litely. Date picked it up was last night, june 27th...what year we in now....err....2016 I think.

Fucking hell guys, just...I don't know what else is in this if anything but I suspect it might not be all it seems on the surface (heroin). I haven't even reloaded my pipe after that first rock and pinch worth of the grains/powder all night long, I haven't had to, I've just vaped the bit that was in there, a few tokes every now and then, the odd larger one every few hours, I cannot compare it to a known mg dose of morphine, its just too strong, or to dipropionylmorphine, my usually preferred opiate of the class.this is because I've never rendered either capable of being smoked and I have not shot any of this. Its base, its smokeable and will need acid to cook it to shoot.

In case its not clear, this packed as much of a punch as a BOX of oxys, one whole bag, or most of it laid out or in the pipe, not even close to smoked fully and gone.
And theres been a 6-700mg shot of morphine sulfate with a handful of oxynorm tossed in it too, sat there, all day, all night, and I haven''t even thought about it until just now, because I just well it was irrelevant.

Ass.

Watch.

Smoke.

Or it will smoke you. There is definitely heroin IN it, but it would not surprise me if thats not the only active opioid in there.
And there is a distinctive crackling noise when its strongly heated on foil and then it is permitted to cool.
 
Just while were on the subject of good gear, here's a warning about some bad - when I was at my DSP a couple of days ago the walls were plastered by posters warning about a batch of heroin (no physical description was provided) currently being sold around the central Staffordshire / North Midlands area which was stated as...

'causing users veins to rupture / collapse immediately upon IV administration'

How the fuck do you you work that one out until the damage is already irreversible? God knows, but as usual, be careful, always test the strength of any new 'heroin' you source by smoking a little before you attempt an IV, and all I can say in this particular case, if you live in the area possibly affected by this stuff, don't attempt to crank any until you have watched your PIC take a shot to see if his elbow explodes.
 
North midlands-meaning north west UK?

Well I've not I'ved any, but if I do I'll use a shitty vein haha.

And christ it must be unfriendly the bad stuff going about. I've accidentally slugged a bit of hydrochloric acid before once, in isopropanol. And the vein, shockingly, after about a week and a half recovered.

Whats a DSP?

This stuff is at least, highly potent. I can say as yet nothing of its propensity or lack thereof to cause vascular detonation. And what is a PIC?

Because in any case the guy I go with to score from dealers, he doesn't shoot and in any cases is homeless, so can't really inject anyway. So there isn't a soul that COULD be watched or who can watch me.

Damn though sounds nasty shit the stuff your talking of stee. Irresponsible as fuck if you ask me, and you didn't but I'll say it fuckin' well anyways=D to warn of, and then provide no description of the batch.
*I* provided as thorough description as I could render of this gear I have. Because if all I said was 'theres fucking good smack in the manchester area' then what use would it be to anybody, unless I was a dealer selling it and touting for business (which I will also say, I am not, please nobody PM me or ask anywhere else of me, because two reasons, one-I am not a dealer. and two-this is my birthday treat, so like fuck am I gonna part with it! Not a chance. there isn't enough to sell, I don't sell and I won't sell either. Nor will I trade. Its MMMYYYPreeccciiooussss=D And my birthday preeeeccicooosssssGkkkhhhoolllumGOHHLUMMNGGNN at that *wet clearing of throat MOSTLY unrelated to tooting up a bag of that fucking lovely, if dangerously potent feeling smack*

This at least when smoked is top whack stuff, the real bogs dollocks.

But I don't say it lightly, the warning I gave. I've never posted one of that nature before. Never felt I had to, but please, please please, I am not trying to, or wanting to be thought of as boasting, or bigging this shit up. Thats just stupid ego-driven behaviour and would in any case give me no psychological reward from doing so. I posted it because I want to let people know, give a heads up that this stuff could EASILY be dangerous as hell. My tolerance...and taking less than a half bag of the first bag my three, plus the extra, given what experience I've had with being used to dipropionylmorphine, rather than street H, but done a fair bit of street and otherwise H nevertheless over time. This is...it made my bells ring something nutty with that first big wallop of a toke. I don't mean like tinnitus sense btw, I mean just STRONG. Damn strong. Dead strong if your not careful if your lightly or non-tolerant or have never taken opiates before. Not that such people typically immediately rush (pun intended) to the naughty man who says 'yes you CAN' with the total lack of giving a fuck about a prescription but a lot more of a fuck about a handful of bank notes; of course.

Because I really honestly have never, ever had even one bag make me nod straight out from as many or slightly less hits than I can count using half my fingers (I was born with the regular numerical amount of those, and I still have them, albeit callused to fuck after that SOCl2 spill as a kid, amongst other things, but that being one of the worst. Oh, and a sodding great big fish with equally sodding big sharp teef, but it didn't PERMANENTLY remove any appendages and even then only a tip. I got it back and still wear it Bastard though. Someone should have told it you don't DO that to kiddiewinks far from home on their own... twunting penoid :P)
 
North Midlands = Staffordshire - East Cheshire (Stoke - On - Trent and it's surroundings would probably be the northern boundary) is the sort of catchment area I think the posters were describing.

DSP = Drug Service Provider - the local statutory health service that prescribes and looks after my methadone treatment. As far as not providing a physical description of this stuff, look at it from the devils advocates POV.

PIC = partner in crime ;)

If they describe a particular type of heroin as being problematic, it is almost tantamount to the DSP stating that other materials sold as heroin are safe to take, which, while they may not make you veins explode, are in most cases certainly not.

It isn't helpful by not providing a physical description of the batch of 'heroin' that are causing these injuries, i have had 2 samples of gear on many occasions which look identical in appearance, but are completely different in terms of quality and strength. It's not like the pill scene where it takes a little time for inferior or even dangerous copies of good presses to appear, street 'heroin' can be thrown together a lot more quickly, and as long as its fits the extremely wide descriptive range of appearances that no3 brown heroin can take depending on the batch, you simply cannot tell what the hell it is unless you get it tested or, more likely, crank a bag.
 
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"Light, light tan" colour and "unusually bitter" tasting? Extremely potent compared to even the best street gear? Sounds like normal Darknet #3.

There's a batch of 'Rolls Royce' stamped heroin bricks doing the rounds at the moment. Everyone - veterans included - are saying it's the best gear they've ever had. Although it's almost impossible to know for sure you've bought this Rolls Royce gear unless you're buying in bulk and get a block with part of the stamp still showing.

I reckon very few people dare buying more than a half ounce when buying online, no matter how reliable the vendor.
 
I really, vehemently disagree with that way of 'thinking', in fact its appalling and disgusting of them.

Because telling someone one particular thing not only IS dangerous but represents a certain, specific KIND of danger, does not by exclusion imply others are safe, I think it vastly important to have stated and shown it if possible as has been seen, updating if they can do so.

I do agree with your saying what you did there but not with their way of thinking. If it was up to me personally I'd have said what is happening if the bad batch is taken and state clearly that just because a bit isn't known to be dangerous it doesn't render it safe either. Safe from vascular collapse etc.. Whereby that does not either, say or imply that one cannot for example overdose on good quality, clean, un-vein-nuking, nice, tasty, healthy kind of skag, relatively speaking that is. Not that theres anything wrong with diacetylmorphine as a inherently.

Thats like calling say, desomorphine bad news because them russkis have developed that crude, and uglier than all sin red phos-iodine reduction process further than on eph/pfed to meth, on as I understood things, alpha-chlorocodide as produced via chlorination of codeine w/ SOCl2, and the noxious swill that comes out of it eats russians like putin eats babies and possibly, live bears :P (we all know that face of his, if it IS his, is a synthetic mask, hiding behind it something from tunnel networks under at the nearest, I'd guess mars, and that wants to cook and eat all humans as some sort of native martian soup dish, ingested through a straw held in one of his ears....that or he's the devil in..well I'd say disguise....but that'd be like calling santa's elves folk with pituitary gigantism and who loath little kiddies on xmas morning and uprooted severed conifers=D)
 
No, not recently. Occasionally not not very often.

I'm a chilled out type more than an ice freak. Hell I'd rather use that IF I'm going to use it to help give me stamina for shopping if I need go far (helps get my ass back home in one piece with my bastard painful joints)


Spoke to sadie in PM, and came to conclusion update is warranted. Orr rather I will do when she clears her inbox! (yes that means you luv :P)

This is more potent than I thought. Don't even touch it without a fair tolerance, not at all. If you DO so, then no more than something the size of a match head, and smoke it only, and that, slowly.
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Shot two bags of ordinary smack, good smack yes but as far as I could tell smack only, the day before I picked this up yesterday. And if I'd have done it with this, I'd be in the ground shitting worms in reverse by now.
WILL test this via IV, but only so I can report back. If I can report backmind you. But fucking bollocks guys, do not shoot a bag full of this stuff, not unless you come with a driver, an assistant gunner behind a .50 cal, a big long fuckoff cannon and tracks.
 
Righty...it's in there.

T-about 10-15s (note for self and crap memory..about 7:42pm)

Dose-the smallest solid chunk in the bag, about the size of a match head, maybe 1/3rd so much again, and that, cut in half, the bit cut off being returned to the container which holds the rest.
Other drugs present in system-chlormethiazole, 192mg, earlier on in the early morning, I couldn't avoid a second when a seizure threatened and was on the verge of kicking off properly, this is already an issue however, I don't think it worsened by the drug/?s? and whatever weight of smack, and if its in there as I strongly, strongly suspect, fent or one of its siblings. theres one, maybe two 10mg oxy up the nose a couple of hours ago. And whatever is in this stuff and I've smoked, hard to tell because I could only hope to weigh the heroin fraction. This quantity of the drug if it were 100% H, and without cut, would be inactive. Or at best I might be able to detect it, just to know its there if I knew I'd received a genuine IV of genuine drug. Nobody to try a double blind with, I can't ask the neighbors round to shoot me up haha=D

As much as I'd love to get one of them alone here and in the mood for some fun. Shes cute as fuck :P
But anyway other than that only a dab of topical corticosteroid (mometasone) and topical benzocaine over the IV site, had to backtitrate it w/ sodium bicarbonate to get the PH right. Thats what you get for some bugger from your mom's carehome who can hardly make herself understood, very very thick accent and possibly not a native english speaker as first language, rings you when you have a damn needle in your foot and have to get the PH alright first with her blathering on and using HCl.

Not nodding or anything, not cooked out of my skull, but certainly a nicely browned around the edges. Like toast thats none too far off from being ready but still nice and chewy toast not the kind you need to chip the edges off and not the kind that has a conductive layer of graphite on it.

Little, very little rush but with the caveat that the quantity was as small as I felt could be noticeable based upon experience smoking it, and then some taken away and put back before adding the HCl.
Less than the equal in size of a 10mg dose of morphine sulfate powder. This would produce no or almost zero effect. This stuff on the other hand, is I am pretty confident now that it does indeed as I suspected contain something like one of the fentanyls. Or at least some other highly, highly potent opioid, added to a base of H. I see no way for anything else to be the case. Pretty relaxed, ptosis present, not enough to prevent my seeing out and typing but its pretty insistently there and its not about to let me forget it either. Itching mild. Euphoria ++ and 1/2 a +. Got much but not all of it in the vein, so yes, this stuff is even stronger than I thought. I wonder what the body count is going to turn out to be from this batch.

Needs acid to dissolve, and some heat to get it into solution. Will check for insolubles in a wee bit once I've had my post-slug rollup.
 
And...first sign of withdrawal, that was otherwised staved off by small amount of the score done prior. Just a bit cold, shivered a few times. Not the ambient temperature here because I just vaped a hit or two of the residue from my pipe, of which theres a fair bit and sorted. Methinks though for now, some of what the good dr. ordered (as opposed to the very naughty one that is)


Guys, I said it was strong before, but that test shot was the merest fraction of one chunk from that bag. Good god, people are gonna start dropping like flies round manchester, if they haven't already. Anyone shoots even a bag of this stuff and there will be the devil to pay. And he always collects.
 
Anyone from the general area know if there is a body count yet?

Going to contact the needle exchange in the city center too for the same reasons, to deliver a warning of alike nature.
I'll be very surprised if there isn't one by the time this stuff is all gone.

Oh and its pretty short acting too, and if it is indeed as I suspect, compounded with fentanyl or one of its relatives, else some other variety of uber-potent opioid then don't use for too. long, tachyphylaxis is a total bastard with fentanyls. Will push your tolerance up FAST, if you use it for more than a handful of days I suspect
 
Here on the continent it's a full scale fentanyl crisis. I'm on a subs script and I got there through alternative opiod abuse, never touched H myself, but down at the clinic every monday is a war zone, full of young uns, I'm talking about 12 year olds already on subs or methadone. White has become extremely widespread around teenagers, obviously the tests done by the clinic show that it's not really chinawhite, just fent and cutting agents, extremely dangerous.
 
Yeah, I am now CERTAIN, 99.95%, as much as I can be that there is fentanyl or one of its analogs, from the way it feels probably alfentanil out of any I've had if it isn't the original. Thats not speculation to ID it AS alfentanil however, its just the most similar one out of the ones I've had (fent, remifentanil, lofentanil and alfentanil as well as a couple of those butyrylfentanyl and fluoro derivatives of it.)

Even smoked, a tiny rock of this stuff was quite enough. Had to take 2 ondansetron after shooting that tiny little granule yesterday, because I was about to puke if I didn't., plus a couple of cyclizine for the same reason.
Shit this stuff is TOO potent. Had it been heroin and heroin alone (and I can taste heroin itself in there when smoking it) that quantity was chosen because H itself would with my tolerance, be an active placebo.

Wouldn't surprise me if it gets cut more after the initial deaths (which i don't know if have or have not yet taken place. But they will. One bag would have killed me several times over I am positive of it) you could use this shit to fell cattle, never mind junkie addicts or people like me who use it occasionally but have a hefty tolerance due to years of chronic pain treatment.

And yes I think this highly dangerous stuff in the wrong hands. Anyone trying H for the first time, good god, they are screwed. Unless they are extremely lucky and are smoking not injecting.

12 years old and on methadone? jesus christ man. Thats nuts. Obviously I am not for a moment suggesting age should be a deciding factor in weather or not someone addicted to opioids is given help to remedy that and to prevent them going through hell. But damn!

Why whats it like on the continent kenny? can you elaborate?

And mods, given the magnitude of this potential danger, indeed to anyone not HEAVILY tolerant, PLEASE for the love of god, sticky it. If you have a personal dislike towards me, do so regardless of it because this is not ABOUT me, I know the dangers, I was the one to post the thread. Its not about self satisfaction, its not about praise, or ego, Its about avoiding people dying. So personal opinions IF they exist of that nature, are totally irrelevant and of no consequence. So, please, do wave that mod-stick and get it stickied for the timebeing until the stuff drops off out of sight again, if it does so.
 
Are you sure you're not just experiencing meth psychosis?

Maybe the dealer with these 20 bags was out to kill YOU?!! The people pretending to rush around and find this super-skag are in on this plan to murder you, too.
 
I'd have to be taking meth or other stimulants for that to be the case.

Since I had taken none, nor even all that recently or often, then I doubt that very much.
So no, thats just being idiotic.
 
Well I gave the needle exchange in ancoats, manchester a bell and alerted them to this batch of gear, they said they were going to put up some posters to draw attention to the stuff.

Thanks for stickying it whoever did. Although there is no POSSIBLY ultra-potent skag doing the rounds currently. To whit, when a guy who can shoot a gram and a half of morphine sulfate/HCL without batting an eyelid, and usually just dips a knife blade or teaspoon into the jar and shoots whatever comes out, plus a large handful of oxynorm or lynlor (the medium strength ones) in the same shot, and yet a single bag of this stuff has lasted that guy since 26th-27th of june, and that being used via the
smoked route, albeit in a quite efficient custom pipe (homemade) save for the IV use done for the activity-guided bioassay...and when that bioassay had to be terminated for safetys sake after the very first IV dose, a particle little bigger than a pinhead was enough to produce quite pronounced, although not overwhelming, just the strongest end of medium-strong then theres no 'possibly' about it. This stuff could flatten a bull elephant. I'm STILL smoking my last of the three bags, only reason I got through
the other two is the short duration of action of the more active, non-heroin opioid in the stuff.

DEFINITELY not a 'might be' it is. I don't know how far its distribution zone exists beyond ancoats,but I doubt very much its only being bought and sold by a single dealer. That kind of thing rarely is.
I'll make it clear if I already haven't-DO NOT INJECT THIS 'HEROIN', its likely to kill you, no matter how tolerant you are. Shoot a bag, like many or possibly most H users are wont to do straight away on scoring? its going to leave you as worm chow. I mean it, if you've got it, and are dead set on using it, smoke it only, do not shoot it or your likely to die. Hell I'd dilute it quite a bit, with something like caffeine, before using anything but a tester. Just remember my tolerance and what a quantity about equal to a pin head, maybe 1.25 times the size of the head of a pin, a mere couple of grains did to me. And that, with my tolerance as it is thanks to chronic pain and treatment therefor plus additional rec. use.

Whilst I have not overdosed on this gear, I have a very strong feeling that it will not be a forgiving drug at all, not in the slightest. Take care never to make a mistake with it, because your first is probably going to be your last.

And I'm STILL smoking whats left of that bag!
 
Brought this up today with a local HR org/DSP in the Manchester area.
Posters and warnings up tomorrow.

Cheers LC, much appreciated. :)
 
If its the one in ancoats, I already did. Well I'm not sure which, but theres at least one in manchester that I got transferred to after the one near afflecks closed, on the phone they said they were putting posters up.

Availability seems to be sporadic. Which makes me think that it must be due to somebody or bodies being able to supply only what they themselves can produce, or maybe obtain precursor for. I'm guessing that anyway not sure if I'm correct or not. Supplies seem relatively limited at least through my connects. Guess they must be working on a smallish scale, maybe anyway. Whilst I don't harbor any massive desire to make fent or its relatives, I'd love to have a chance to talk shop with the techs behind it.
 
WARNING FOR SMETHWICK + HALESOWEN AREA:

After reading a notice about a similar type of product in the STOKE - ON- TRENT and North Staffordshire area, another poster was displayed in my DSP yesterday, warning about a batch of street heroin, which according to the information provided, had been causing users veins to rupture upon IV injection. Again, as on the first occasion that I reported the Staffordshire warning, no physical description of the material responsible for this was reported.

Be careful.
 
WTF is with stupid cunts not providing descriptions of material responsible for this.

Must be pretty nasty too to do that, I accidentslly, on first synth of alpha-chloromorphide, got a fair it of bisulfite yet am fine after an IV partial miss.

It did hurt like a bafuckingstard at the time though.
 
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