☠ WARNING ☠ Warning: Mislabeled Batch of 2C-B-Fly That Has Caused Deaths
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dude if you "treat it with the conciousness it deserves", then you will never touch the stuff again...I am going to undergo a CAT scan as well as neurological and cardiovascular testing, under Dr.'s advice to see if any damage was done.
Here I am praying I don't lose my fingers and toes and you're considering taking it, again ?!?!?!?!?
anondragonfly
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delsymfan, why are you so hell-bent on finding a safe dosage of this partially-UNKNOWN material. People have died, and those that have survived reported unpleasant experiences and aftereffects. Seriously, accept it as a loss, flush it, move on.
Rorthron
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joanmiro is right. naturally. BromoDragonFly even if pure is a BAD substance. Just look at erowid reports! Impurities in this batch are probably not as active as BDF. There are very few substances known as active as this, so BDF is most probably the culprit of all this mess.
Even if the bag you have is pure, I would not touch it with a 6 feet pole. Even flushing the stuff down the toilet might be dangerous. There are probably safer ways of disposing of the substance.
people here seem to be being a bit naïve,
perhaps chinese lab saw the oportunity to supply cut bromodragonfly instead of 2-cb-fly and knew in all likelyhood they wouldn't get caught out, most likely because the bromodragonfly is the same amount of synthetic work but 20 times more potent.
people in general are too trusting of RC manufacturers and vendor-resellers. The price as we have seen of this misplaced trust can be very high.
It is not just the health risks, people who thought they had legal HOT-7 had illegal 2-CT7, the same applies for one of the LSD analogues;- try explaining that to the authorities.
Unless china clamps down on the chemical manufacturers selling to anyone with a credit card and internet connection this situation is almost certain to recur at some point in the not too distant future.
swilow
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In what sense, and can you be more specific? Is the "chinese lab" known? Obviously don't write it here....
psood0nym
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It wasn't cut to look like 2C-B-Fly. That's why it's active at such low doses. If it was cut then 15 mg of the mixed product should contain around 500 ug of bromo-Dfly. That way the effects would at least approximate those expected of 2C-B-Fly at common dosages. If it wasn't cut, then where is the suspicion of a profit motive coming from in this case? I understand wanting to be angry and jaded under these circumstance--and clearly there are corrupt business practices in the market--but in this case believing the that the misrepresentation of the chemical was unintentional is not naive.
I mentioned the less than 1 mg cases because substantially less than 1 mg of pure Bromo-DFly would presumably not have been so terrible. It was just a possible explanation for the effects that does not require an extremely toxic impurity to make sense of the resulting experiences is all.
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pfeife
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Oh dear, I am really shocked. I bought stuff several times from Dannie and also intended to purchase 2C-B-FLY. The mislabeled AMT HCL was odd to begin with. I recently purchased AMT (batch a1) and although it says 99,74% purity via HPLC, I am worried. Has anyone also this product from him and can confirm its authenticity? I've tried it, but I have no reference.
Regards,
Regards,
explorer83
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This is not the first time that a Chinese lab has been involved in tainted or altered products that have resulted in deaths. There was the case of the heparin that had oversulfated chondroitin added to make it meet analytical specs. Unfortunately, it caused severe hypotension in people who were given it, and caused several deaths. Another case was the addition of melamine to a protein powder to make the nitrogen content higher. The protein was added to pet food, and hundreds of cats and dogs died from kidney failure. Finally, there was the replacement of 1,4-butanediol for 1,5-pentanediol in a toy. Unfortunately, when kids ate the toy with 1,4-butanediol, they went into comas.So, either the concept of quality control is not known in China, or they don't care.
Not to mention Ethylene Glycol (anti-freeze) in toothpaste that was distributed to hundreds of hospitals, prisons, and institutions in the US a year or so ago.
Coolio
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My only bromo-dragonfly experience was ruined by my impatience. I IV'd 750 micrograms and all I noticed within the first hour is colors/patterning, maybe 10% of the intensity of visuals from a normal 'dose' of LSD. That's when I decided to add sublingual DOI. I guess it could have taken 3+ hours for IV bromo-dragonfly to kick in though.
That bromo-dragonfly + DOI experience was one of the greatest trips I ever had, but who knows if bromo-dragonfly played any part in it. I thought the colors/patterning after injection were placebo, and they may well have been.
Roger&Me
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Throw it away please, friend!
Its freebase, and legit. Im on it now.
I was not hell bent on finding a safe dosage... I was just questioning how the synthesis could have mostly good material and then such a shitty side-chem. And also I was countering somebody's point about how those <1mg accounts probably werent accurate. I was just stating how somebody could have had accurate measurement.
I know its a loss, I'm just trying to see how we can analyze it further. Its not even in my possession you see.
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swilow
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^^Hey delysmfan, edit out the name in your post yeah?
feelgoodhit
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wait... all that aMT floating around comes from the same person? um... that's scary... anymore info on that?
swilow
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^Exercise extreme caution is your best bet. Can you get it analysed?
SmokeTrails
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if "ALL" the amt is coming from the same source... the AMT is fine
Only one I saw was aforementioned vendor who started this whole mess.... And I was just quoting another guy.
But i took it out.
Other than that?
And not all AMT in the world comes from the same guy but this guy happened to sell it also.