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☠ WARNING ☠ Warning: Mislabeled Batch of 2C-B-Fly That Has Caused Deaths

Tears are coming down my face as I post this...
I am glad Joanmiro is alive.
Please be with friends or near the hospital.
 
i'm ecstatic to hear you're doing ok joanmiro... your first post really scared me

hope all is well :)
 
You'll be ok Joanmiro.. I'm glad to hear you went to seek medical attention. if nothing major has happened yet, im sure it wont happen now. I know you're a little scared to go to sleep, but like Nuke said not sleeping will do you a serious disservice in getting better. Keep us posted on how you're feeling will you.

<3 :)
 
i really hope that is it/////....that everyone else learned or heard DO NOT INGEST
 
the news hit reddit today, and was getting a lot of play in the drugs category.....
 
Glad to hear your update dude...

And glad to hear you can also shed some light on this stuff. Hopefully we can learn more from your experience. Hate to have you be a guinea pig here, but every true word could help save some.

Man such a mess this whole thing is. Still cant quite believe it.

Oh and Joan, instead of flushing you can just send them to Peru's #1 flushing service. I have a fantastic toilet.

Seriously though, I understand your thought process here. My view of the RC scene has changed after this event, but I still recognize there is a safe way to go about things, and that this event is not the norm. Don't totally give up on these things. But if you do, you can always send em here haha.
 
nuke said:
If you can sleep I'd get some rest... Not sleeping could further exacerbate your blood pressure/tachycardia. I wish I could have slept through any bit of my DOB experience, but it was pretty well a full 36 hours without rest and I was still at a +1 at work the following day.

If you're super concerned and alone you could just go back to the hospital and hang out in the lobby or something I suppose, as the hospital generally won't make you leave or anything so far as I know as long as you aren't disruptive. That way you'd be right there if you needed some help. I think you'll be okay, though.
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How much DOB was that? Just curious,I too had my DOB overdose but working on the following day was totally out of question,that day was fully centered around becoming conscious again :(

Now I'm reminded of DOTFM which was toxic in animal assays (read Nichols paper),contrary to 2C-TFM which even in humans proved to be extremely benign (and I mean a pure batch...).It appears the 3C's have an unpredictable cardiovascular(?) side to it,meaning some are benign like DOM,DOC and DOI while others are not. Bromofly could still be an interesting compound and I somehow doubt that it is this altough again 2C-->3C =? .But I know the 2C-B-Fly was quite hypnotic/almost sedative,could explain some effects of the reported overdoses.
 
thanks for the support, guys. It really does mean a lot to me.

So now I'm approx. +21:30 past ingestion and I still feel fucked.

I really don't know what to do.

I can't well go back to the ER, but I have nothing here to self medicate.

any ideas?

P.s. I did get about 4 1/2 - 5 hrs of real shitty sleep

P.p.s. will smoking a spliff put me in any further danger at this point?
 
joanmiro said:
thanks for the support, guys. It really does mean a lot to me.

So now I'm approx. +21:30 past ingestion and I still feel fucked.

I really don't know what to do.

I can't well go back to the ER, but I have nothing here to self medicate.

any ideas?

P.s. I did get about 4 1/2 - 5 hrs of real shitty sleep

P.p.s. will smoking a spliff put me in any further danger at this point?
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I'd suggest that cannabis (and nicotine if you use tobacco too) could increase heart rate, which might exacerbate anxiety. I'd imagine that - to promote calmness - you might want to do things liable to lower heart rate. (I also tend to find cannabis enhances rather than dampens any psychedelia.)

One simple thing you can always try, for lowering heart rate, is to lie down and take deep, slow breaths, breathing in fairly sharply (say for one second) and then slowly breathing out (say for four seconds). This could help, because one's heart rate slows when one is breathing outwards. I would expect that would help promote a calm state.

Good luck to you. I hope normality returns as soon as possible for you. :)
 
joanmiro said:
thanks for the support, guys. It really does mean a lot to me.

So now I'm approx. +21:30 past ingestion and I still feel fucked.

I really don't know what to do.

I can't well go back to the ER, but I have nothing here to self medicate.

any ideas?

P.s. I did get about 4 1/2 - 5 hrs of real shitty sleep

P.p.s. will smoking a spliff put me in any further danger at this point?
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I'm glad you made it through the most dangerous part.




You should try to at least have a friend with you or something. What country are you in? I'll come hang out with you if you're alone.
 
invert said:
I'd suggest that cannabis (and nicotine if you use tobacco too) could increase heart rate, which might exacerbate anxiety. I'd imagine that - to promote calmness - you might want to do things liable to lower heart rate. (I also tend to find cannabis enhances rather than dampens any psychedelia.)

One simple thing you can always try, for lowering heart rate, is to lie down and take deep, slow breaths, breathing in fairly sharply (say for one second) and then slowly breathing out (say for four seconds). This could help, because one's heart rate slows when one is breathing outwards. I would expect that would help promote a calm state.

Good luck to you. I hope normality returns as soon as possible for you. :)
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Hellooo

JoanMiro is here with me now. Its now 24 hours after ingestion, he still feels fucked and we are all a bit freaked out by the whole experience.

I gave him a 1mg Clonazepam and he's eating a bit of food now. We're gonna try to smoke a spliff here in a bit when hes feelin a bit better, prolly mostly just weed, maybe some hash but as little tobacco as possible...

I really hope anyone with this batch of powder flushes it immediately and doesnt even try a little. We are convinced that if JoanMiro had not gone to the hospital in the exact moment he did, he would not be here right now.

We have also seen the guy he got it from is now dead as well. I think thats warning enough. DO NOT TAKE THIS DRUG.

Thanks for all the advice and support everyone has shown for JoanMiro. It has helped a lot, and probably helped save his life.

Until there is more news....
peace out
 
Both of my frieds who where hospitalized still suffer from that night.

One of them has a strong disturbance of equilibrium. He thinks the stuff has damaged something in his brain. I´ll take him here for a few days to take care of him (and keep him sober) and bring him to a neurologist tomorrow.

He drank a lot of alkohol since he is back from hospital and mixed it with weed and amphetamines.. big mistake.

Fuck. I hope he´ll be allright again.
 
barstool hooligan said:
He drank a lot of alkohol since he is back from hospital and mixed it with weed and amphetamines.. big mistake.

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Was that " experience"still not enough for this idiot to take alc,weed and amp afterwards????? <3

If that gives him comfort,he shouldn't be scared of longterm effects,I was fine after my DOB overdose (they checked me as they really thought I took a hit!).As for the change in equilibrium I would advise in getting therapeutic counsel,in case of a traumatisation build up,or if the person suffers genuinely from a yet to be discovered mental disease.While I'm a genetically disposed bipolar,this DOB overdose didn't trigger an episode altough I wasn't diagnosed not until many years later anyway.
 
hugo24 said:
How much DOB was that? Just curious,I too had my DOB overdose but working on the following day was totally out of question,that day was fully centered around becoming conscious again :(
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It was hard to say, it was between 4-8mg, made a mistake with dilution. It was a horrible day at work for sure, I had only a few hazy hours of sleep at 33 hours-ish in. I used to do crazy things when I was younger, go out and eat pills continuous, be up for two days, go into work on speed the next day. Thankfully I'm a lot kinder to my body now. I remember with the overdose though, I tried to eat food, anything even oatmeal and I couldn't get it into my mouth, the thought of consuming anything made me want to vomit. I tried to take a shower at one point but I kept collapsing, it felt like there was a backpack full of lead on me. When I laid in bed it was like there was an elephant on my chest too. Just an altogether horrific experience.

I still haven't dosed myself to a +3 since that day, though, on any psychedelic. In fact it's almost frightening to even handle extremely potent psychedelics now, I would shake involuntarily while working with DOI powder (before I threw all that away, too).
 
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I know this is still very recent, but does anyone know (as I'm not familiar with the time-frame these work on) how soon we can expect lab test results to come back?
 
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