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WARNING- AL-LAD+25c-NBOH put friend in Intensive Care

Incredibly lucky that the cops didn't search your house tho. Even if they find twenty pence worth of cannabis in your car they usually go and search your house in case you've got any more.
 
... so can we assume that the problems reported almost definitely relate to the seemingly meaty dose of 25c NBOH rather than the combo of Al & 25c NBOH..? Is it necessary at this stage to add this combo to the dangerous combinations thread in PD? Personally, I think not.
 
There's a report on PD at the mo about someone throwing a wobbler and "finding it incredibly hard to breath"(never a good sign) after taking 2.2mg of 25c so yeah - it's the 25c.

Al-lad skips merrily down the lane.
 
Fuuuuckin hell man! That was a hair-thin miracle mate and I'm so so so glad that you are alright and that your friend is in a stable condition! 8(
And thank you lots for this warning - When it comes to mixing substances that you're not that experienced with then it's best to stick with just the one!

Please let us know how your friend is in the coming days - I wish you, your friend and his whole family lots of love <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3
 
Well, 2.5mg of 25c NBOH is the highest dose I've yet read about so hardly suprising that it's brought health difficulties.

Still got thoughts of your mate in my head, lets have an update op, how's he doing?

It might be nice to have some sort of symptoms list from the hospital, so we can warn folk who might experience them to seek medical attention. It sounds to me, as Monsta mentions, that your friend seriously dodged a bullet there. It would be helpful if we could use the medical information to help prevent future problems.
 
Sorry for not keeping you updated sooner. My friend is out of hospital, and made a full recovery, his body had very high CK levels after, which I think can effect muscle tissue tissue after body truma. I will try and find as much medical information out as possible, and let you know. I know that AL-LAD was not soley to blame, but it was taken in combination with the 25c. So for the people that are whining about bringing this to the authorities attention, is something I do not care about. This happened to my friend after consuming these drugs, and this is a harm reduction site, so I had to mention the AL-LAD. It would of been stupid of me not to.
The whole purpose of this thread is so that people don't do what we done. We are usually very responsible when it comes to drugs. And when taking new chems, research them first. But this one slipped through our fingers. This is not an excuse but why is a vendor selling something, that people can fully the effects of at 500mics and selling 1mg tabs? I think we brought the lowest amount of tabs also which is five (for £9 fucking pound). If your idiotic like we was, many people would consume a similar dose. And I think it is irresposnsible of the vendor to sell it like that. All I want to do is to make people not take such a stupid dose, because many people will. And I feel they are just dodgey as fuck.
The police on the night siezed my flat keys, me and my friends phone and my laptop, they also searched my flat, but there was nothing there thank god. Thanks for the support that people have given, and I do hope this thread will stop some people doing what we done. The NBOH series of drugs are super potent and sold at doses that can lead people up shits creek. This experience has given me a whole new perspective on life. The not knowing if my friend was alive or dead, while a copper sat in a chair next to my bed eating tea and biscuits all night, basically waiting to start an investigation in to death is something I will never forget.
 
Without appearing to be a callous cunt, the irresponsible thing was taking 25c-NBOH at a dose considerably higher than any other reported on BL and in combination with other drugs. Did you actually do any research on doses? You've been a member longer than I have, so you have no excuse for not learning the basics. The vendors operate in a grey area because they are prevented by law from giving out dosage information. Their drugs are sold "not for human consumption". So one of the reasons we are here on BL is to share dosage information. You and your friend seem not to have taken advantage of that.

OTOH you're doing the right thing by letting us know what happened so thanks.
 
Your both fucking idiots.

Don't blame the vendor for sizes sold. If your so in to HR the you wouldn't have acted like mongoloids.
 
These RC's are like playing with fire IMO..at least with cocaine / crack / speed / heroin / mdma there are decades if not centuries worth of experience that people can draw on when using them.. and of course they are never pure but usually they are cut with something benign. With these RC's on the other hand f** knows what you are taking people are like guinea pigs there is no research on them
 
I fully agree with what both of you have said. I was simply making a point that other people will assume that what they are buying is a safe dose to take, simply how they are sold. Stupid I know, but there are a lot of idiots out there, that this thread has clearly pointed out.
 
HouseFever said:
I fully agree with what both of you have said. I was simply making a point that other people will assume that what they are buying is a safe dose to take, simply how they are sold. Stupid I know, but there are a lot of idiots out there, that this thread has clearly pointed out.
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Really? So are you really arguing that people assume that a gram or whatever other amount they buy is a safe dose to take?

Look a lot of people here love their RCs and hate to see them banned, obviously we all know that usually most decent chemicals will end up getting banned anyway, so the last thing we need is irresponsible people dying and drawing media attention.

Should always do some extensive research before ingesting any new chemical
 
opiaterock said:
These RC's are like playing with fire IMO..at least with cocaine / crack / speed / heroin / mdma there are decades if not centuries worth of experience that people can draw on when using them.. and of course they are never pure but usually they are cut with something benign. With these RC's on the other hand f** knows what you are taking people are like guinea pigs there is no research on them
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Don't kid yourself that street drugs are not cut with RCs. Sometimes they're pure RC sold as something else. And generally I think RCs tend to be what "reputable" vendors say they are. People get RCs tested and there's been the odd case of mis-sold substance but usually from fly-by-night vendors.

Taking any drug in prohibition is playing with fire. Witness PMA/PMMA sold as MDMA, and all the stuff sold as heroin during the recent drought (there was stuff that solidified in people's syringes, thank fuck it happened there and not in their veins). I've taken loads of RCs over the last few years and I haven't got into any problems which I could say were the fault of the vendors or the RCs themselves. Just stupid dosing.

Of course there are RCs which I think are less safe than other drugs, and I count the NBOMes and I suppose the NBOHs amongst them, because they are known to be dangerous at doses which seem not much more than a recreational dose. But this is all well publicised here.
 
Mental Kenny said:
Really? So are you really arguing that people assume that a gram or whatever other amount they buy is a safe dose to take?

Look a lot of people here love their RCs and hate to see them banned, obviously we all know that usually most decent chemicals will end up getting banned anyway, so the last thing we need is irresponsible people dying and drawing media attention.

Should always do some extensive research before ingesting any new chemical
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Can you not see my point? If a vendor sells a single tab, with a high dose of a chemical on, don't you think that a lot of people would assume that taking that tab is a safe dose to take? I think a lot of people would.
 
I thought your mate took 2.5mg, which is 2.5 tabs, not 1 tab?

When I've taken NBOMes on blotter, I've started at quarter of a tab. I don't think I ever took more than 1.5 tabs of any NBOMe blotter.
 
knock said:
I thought your mate took 2.5mg, which is 2.5 tabs, not 1 tab?

When I've taken NBOMes on blotter, I've started at quarter of a tab. I don't think I ever took more than 1.5 tabs of any NBOMe blotter.
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I was making a point about what Mental Kenny highlighted in my qoute. All I was trying to say is that in the form that these were sold(tabs). Many people would assume, that taking just the one tab would be a safe dose. Don't you agree?
I'm basically hoping that people read this and don't consume multiple. Because I think a lot of IDIOTS like myself will. And yeah my friend had 2.5 tabs.
 
HouseFever said:
I was making a point about what Mental Kenny highlighted in my qoute. All I was trying to say is that in the form that these were sold(tabs). Many people would assume, that taking just the one tab would be a safe dose. Don't you agree?
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I agree.

wcote said:
Your both fucking idiots.

Don't blame the vendor for sizes sold. If your so in to HR the you wouldn't have acted like mongoloids.
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Oh, quit with the pious rubbish. Everybody makes mistakes.

There's hardly a person on this forum who hasn't landed themselves in trouble with one substance or another. Calling people 'fucking idiots' and 'mongoloids' accomplishes NOTHING.
 
HouseFever said:
I was making a point about what Mental Kenny highlighted in my qoute. All I was trying to say is that in the form that these were sold(tabs). Many people would assume, that taking just the one tab would be a safe dose. Don't you agree?
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I agree with this point but it's automatically invalidated by the fact your mate consumed 2.5 tabs. Perhaps one tab would have been perfectly safe
 
knock said:
Don't kid yourself that street drugs are not cut with RCs. Sometimes they're pure RC sold as something else. And generally I think RCs tend to be what "reputable" vendors say they are. People get RCs tested and there's been the odd case of mis-sold substance but usually from fly-by-night vendors.

Taking any drug in prohibition is playing with fire. Witness PMA/PMMA sold as MDMA, and all the stuff sold as heroin during the recent drought (there was stuff that solidified in people's syringes, thank fuck it happened there and not in their veins). I've taken loads of RCs over the last few years and I haven't got into any problems which I could say were the fault of the vendors or the RCs themselves. Just stupid dosing.

Of course there are RCs which I think are less safe than other drugs, and I count the NBOMes and I suppose the NBOHs amongst them, because they are known to be dangerous at doses which seem not much more than a recreational dose. But this is all well publicised here.
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Yeah I know ur right Knock in general especially with taking any drug in prohibition is playing with fire///of course nothing is safe but I just feel safer taking street drugs than RC's, probably illogical but I guess half that is cause I don't really like any of the RC's I took..too tweakish and fucked up. That 2-cb was the worst shit I ever took but I don 't like trippy drugs in general I guess thats where my bias comes from

Wasn't trying to bash RC's really cause I know lots of people like them just not my cup of tea
 
Get fucked Sammy G,

You can't react to a supposedly pious comment by being pious yourself.
 
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