Want to die...still.

I have been where you are for a while. i could type a long post of what i think you should do, but instead ill tell you the one piece of literature that gave me the most strength and hope. it was Meditations by Marcus Aurelius, the Roman emperor and stoic philosopher. there is no better philosopher for the depressed and lost. his word bring me immense comfort. hes been dead for over 1800 years but his words can point you in a good direction. if you are lost depressed, have trouble accepting things, want to just be able to chill out, theres not one book, even modern self help stuff, religious writings, other philosophers, moral codes, or lifestyle that is of better help than his humble words in my opinion. following his way of acceptance has given me a tiny bit of direction that has kept me from going into full blown despair. im right where you are. we need to hang on a grab at whatever we can to keep moving on
 
why doesnt he think he will ever find a partner?

Hi man, well, experience. Im 18 and have never done anything with a girl, never got even remotley close; the most Ive ever done was kiss a stanger with a peck on the lips on a drunk night out. Never been in a relationship. Im not homosexual, but I find myself barley ever attracted to girls, nor boys for that matter.

Yet, I do have a high libido, and would like a partner, but I just never connect with anyone.

Im in a fairly average social group, so its not like I deliberatley isolate myself, and we do average normal things. Im deemed to be the cooky one in the group, the one who says the outlandish and odd things. So understandably, Im hardly boyfriend material in most girls eyes.

Its like when you really want to do somthing, but it keeps failing to happen until you just give up hoping/dreaming. Thats whats happened to me, Ive given up dreaming that Ill find somone, because its simply a delusion and wishfull thinking.

Besides, I dont see how I could improve a girls life with my precence, Im a troubled, suicidal, odd, inexperienced, bland looking teenager with probable ADD. Why would a girl be interested in that? And furthermore, even if they were, the chance of me being attracted to them is next to none anyway. Vicious Cycle.

Casper.
 
Hold on to those all those happy moments in life as long as you can....try to push away the negative experiences and think back the happy ones, didn't you feel amazing at one point in life without drugs?
 
Hold on to those all those happy moments in life as long as you can....try to push away the negative experiences and think back the happy ones, didn't you feel amazing at one point in life without drugs?

Thanks for your concern, but I havn't touched drugs in a year or so, not even drunk any alcahol since the summer, completley sober other than the intake of caffiene from tea/coffee.
 
Hi man, well, experience. Im 18 and have never done anything with a girl, never got even remotley close; the most Ive ever done was kiss a stanger with a peck on the lips on a drunk night out. Never been in a relationship. Im not homosexual, but I find myself barley ever attracted to girls, nor boys for that matter.

Yet, I do have a high libido, and would like a partner, but I just never connect with anyone.

Im in a fairly average social group, so its not like I deliberatley isolate myself, and we do average normal things. Im deemed to be the cooky one in the group, the one who says the outlandish and odd things. So understandably, Im hardly boyfriend material in most girls eyes.

Its like when you really want to do somthing, but it keeps failing to happen until you just give up hoping/dreaming. Thats whats happened to me, Ive given up dreaming that Ill find somone, because its simply a delusion and wishfull thinking.

Besides, I dont see how I could improve a girls life with my precence, Im a troubled, suicidal, odd, inexperienced, bland looking teenager with probable ADD. Why would a girl be interested in that? And furthermore, even if they were, the chance of me being attracted to them is next to none anyway. Vicious Cycle.

Casper.

Just because you have not found somebody at 18 doesn't mean you will never have a relationship. Maybe what you need most right now is to spend time learning to like yourself and see that you are more valuable than you think.
 
Ive had that feeling very intensely but only for 6 months to a year at most. Well, I just let it build up until I was ready to kill others.

One thing that helps is not using drugs unless your doctor is educated, and specifically advises you take it without you suggesting that medicine.
Now this may seem obvious, but lets just say druggies dont have very consistent thoughts. Ive noticed pot smokers are very hypocritical, one of the things you will often hear is that (i.e.) it makes you peaceful... or this or that. Well, yeah, temporarily, and then its usually reversed. Whether it be pot or alcohol, or LSD, time and time again its been shown to have adverse affects on the average individual.
 
Sweet welcome to Club Suicidal.. the only thing to stop it is drugs, which then causes the thoughts to be worse after.. fucked up life cycle hey.

tbh i would rather be dead than alive but i am weeding out and rejecting friends and family before i actually bite the bullet so I dont hurt so many people.
 
i feel ya theres more people out there with this than you realize.
 
Hey man being 18 is rough these days Im 21 and most of the girls I know and hang out with I find almost repulsive mentally its like theyre fucking retarded (I blame MTV...). I dont know if thats your problem but give it a little bit of time and you will find a cool attractive girl but when you do you have to make sure to at least make a slight move...ask for her number or see if she wants to go out sometime. Take it slow, who knows maybe you will find a girl jump into a relationship and find out that even with the dirtiest sex most are not worth the hassle/drama. I wish you infinite amounts of luck be confident kick lifes ass!
 
Make Rules and follow them, like "Dexter", and you will be OK

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Hey 7ca5p, we're more alike than you know in this department.

I've been stuck with suicidal thoughts for years. And I can't tell anyone. I don't want to burden anyone about it. I've told people I'm no longer associated with, like an ex after she said she was having them, and a distant friend.

I have guns too, so I often wonder about things, if they got really bad and permanent, how easy it would be for me. It worries me on my better days, but makes me feel "safer" when feeling really lousy.

With a problem like this, you have to set yourself rules. Ever see that show Dexter? Its about a guy who has homicidal thoughts trying to fit into society. Its a great show for people who are addicts or suicidal too because it conveys a great inside view of a person messed up. I highly recommend it, and if you can spare 9$ a month its on netflix instant watch (first 2 seasons anyways).

My rules are: there is proof my problem is permanent (depression, anxiety that moves to a severe level and stays that way a long time, with brain scans showing damage) but then again, who knows what kind of future technology they could put in our brains to help it. Maybe in 10, 20 years we can install brand new functioning "pleasure centers".

My main rule that I think of most often, is I must be sober (no drugs at all) for at least a month. If I had an addiction I'd probably raise that to 6 months or a year because the brain takes time to heal. Drugs are often a hidden cause for these kinds of unnatural thoughts.

We are the survivors of over 3 billion years of evolution. What has survived in this long chain of life? Probably a percentage similar to a few atoms compared to the entire earth. We are well evolved. But our minds aren't well evolved for this kind of complicated society We must adapt in our own ways to it with our inherited intelligence and creativity, which sadly seems lacking when depressed, but it is there, hidden.

Ride it out, your brain will adapt the more you suffer. This is proven. Stop taking drugs if you are so your brain can adapt. If you need a boost every once in a while that's ok just don't get any addiction, or don't do anything you've had previous problems with (like a former opiate addict can get withdrawal after just a few pills even if they were clean a long time; the brain can easily switch back physically/chemically into old habits, beyond our mental control)

*I just read recent post of yours to see you haven't touched drugs or have an addiction! That is great, you are better off than most here! Many would wish for a sobriety that great.
I hope this helps someone if the OP isn't listening here anymore, but hope he/she is ok. What I just typed has kept me alive. I've just been through a huge failure in my life which has eroded my self esteem severely, but I'm clinging on to basically a hope so small its not there, but rationally I know things could get better, and thats reason enough to hang on.

I'm an atheist so I know/believe that this is my only life and I'll die forever someday; into timeless infinity. If it is by my own hands, I know through the rules I follow it will have to be a damn good reason, not just to me, but justifiable in the note I'll leave my family.

BTW, you are British. American girls love the accent... come on over and get laid.
 
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Sup OP ? hope things r lookin up 4 u even in a small way, also hope bein here has done the same<3

love an update when ur surfin nxt.....
thinkin of ya bro;)
 
Update:

I tried to kill myself earlier by crashing my car, all it did was fuck my car up and slightly hit my head. For fucks sake. :|

[Mate, we absolutely cannot give you advice on how to commit suicide. It's against the spirit of TDS and it's actually illegal to assist someone in suicide - n3o]

Thanks for all of your posts to try and help, and Im sorry I wasted your time.
 
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7ca5p I'm so sorry to hear you're still struggling with this mate.
Has anything happened in your life recently to make you feel like this? Have you had any good days within the past 2 months since you originally posted this thread?
Does your family know how much you're struggling, and do they know your plans?
 
7ca5p I'm so sorry to hear you're still struggling with this mate.
Has anything happened in your life recently to make you feel like this? Have you had any good days within the past 2 months since you originally posted this thread?
Does your family know how much you're struggling, and do they know your plans?

My family dont give a fuck, my 'friends' dont give a fuck, college dont give a fuck. Despite me writing that in a stereotypical 'angsty' manner, its true, not a deluded interpretation. My mother is occupied with work and dosnt care about my wellbeing, and my Dad doesn't really know whats going on anymore, and is declining in his old age. My brother is the only one remotley supportive.

Completley alone in it, and Im pretty certain that the cessation of my life wont impact on anyone negativley.

I cant remember one good day to be honest, at best ive had temporary relief for like 2 hours with a friend or somthing, but sure enough the feeling comes back.

I cant think of why I feel like it, I cant work it out. Nothing makes me happy anymore, I have no optimism that I will in the future either.

Ive tried everything, Doctors, Supplements, trying to get better sleep, doing new things, taking up a hobby, helping other people, regular exersise...none of which help.

Casper.

Edit: sorry for violating the rules btw, Im just pretty desperate here.
 
Update:

I tried to kill myself earlier by crashing my car, all it did was fuck my car up and slightly hit my head. For fucks sake. :|

[Mate, we absolutely cannot give you advice on how to commit suicide. It's against the spirit of TDS and it's actually illegal to assist someone in suicide - n3o]

Thanks for all of your posts to try and help, and Im sorry I wasted your time.

all ya need to do is come to America, American women love men with British accents, so youre bound to meet some chick here and fall in love, seriously, if ya need a place to stay you can stay here in Atlanta, think about it
 
Wait, you're only 18 and you are having suicidal thoughts? Not to downplay the situation at all, but don't you think you've barely scratched life's surface to be making that type of decision already? I mean, you still have SO MUCH freakin time to get things right, meet new people and figure out how to change your life.

Please don't give up on yourself because you are way too young and important to be thinking like this. You need to get out, hang with friends, pickup a hobby. There's no way you can be playing a sport or doing something and be thinking bad thoughts at the same time, just try to keep your mind occupied.

As far as being attracted to other people, when you meet the right person, it will all change. Have you tried going out and dating people? Maybe finding a new social circle? There are just way too many solutions for you to be considering a permanent step.
 
My mother is occupied with work and dosnt care about my wellbeing, and my Dad doesn't really know whats going on anymore, and is declining in his old age. My brother is the only one remotley supportive.

Completley alone in it, and Im pretty certain that the cessation of my life wont impact on anyone negativley.

This is entirely untrue, although I know what it's like to feel depressed and to think that no-one will care if you die. I felt like that just yesterday! But it's just the depression making you think that, it's not true.

I have seen first-hand the effects of a loved-one's suicide on the family and friends of the person who takes their life. Mate, believe me when I say this: It will absolutely destroy the lives of your parents, your brother, your friends and teachers at college. Especially your parents and your brother, please do not do this to them man. They at least deserve to know how you're currently feeling, you can't take your life without giving them a chance to reach out and help you.

Please talk to them. Tell them how you're really feeling and that you're not coping.
 
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