I've been doing MDMA/ecstasy for around 2 years and have been very responsible, taking my supplements and waiting 2-3 months between rolls. I've never waited more than 3 months though and was wondering of you guys notice a big difference in your roll if you wait like 8 months or so. I've always heard it takes around 3 months to replenish your serotonin so that's what I was trying to do. I notice however like a lot people here the high and euphoria isn't as great as before so would be willing to roll maybe every 6 or 8 months if I knew it would make a difference. I still enjoy it though and don't want to wait that long if there really isnt a difference. Any thoughts on this? Basically jus wanted to know if you guys notice a better roll by waiting an extra couple months.
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Waiting 8-12 months same effects as 3 months?
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Most definitely.. Time and more time will usually allow for a great roll. 8 months is plenty of time for recovery, the longer you wait the better, if you've been living an overall healthy lifestyle during that time; proper supplementation and dieting, regular exercise.. I've significantly laid off on any MDxx substance. I plan on rolling again in the future, but not for a very long time. This I'm sure, will allow for an epic night. You will be fine after 3 months, but using MDMA repetitively will take away some magic from the experience.
unfortunately i have not been waiting the proper amount of time. i have been rolling a year and i am taking my first break, which i plan to make a habit. Ive been noticing harsher comedowns and diminished effects for sure. i have 150 mg of some cut mdma and didnt feel anything, just slight after effects from the small amount of methylone in it. gunna wait 4 months until my birthday and see what that does for tolerance and overall health! im actually pretty excited
Folley
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I think after a while your going to hit a peak point of serotonin, obviously waiting is going to be better for you, but I dont think you would really roll any harder after a while...
The difference between one month and 3 is huge though, like, double the roll.
Also, are you testing your stuff? Kinda sounds like you have methylone if you've been taking the proper breaks and it still doesnt have the same magic... try getting a Marquis reagent and only eating the stuff that turns straight black, that ought to help lol
The difference between one month and 3 is huge though, like, double the roll.
Also, are you testing your stuff? Kinda sounds like you have methylone if you've been taking the proper breaks and it still doesnt have the same magic... try getting a Marquis reagent and only eating the stuff that turns straight black, that ought to help lol
severely etarded
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FYI i waited 6 months to my last roll and it was very mild. needed to redose to get where I wanted to be. I was trying low-carb dieting though, and I started eating more carbs, then rolled again 6 days later (irresponsible, I know, but I was dissatisfied with the previous roll one-time thing...) and it was AWESOME !!. I got way higher with less of the same exact pills, leftover from the other roll. Not a new batch or anything. I thought it's worth noting.
lol, hearing stuff like this confuses me. I know some of my friends insist the same-- they could wait 3 months for a roll, and then maybe roll again 2 weeks later and it could be just as good or better, even with the same pills and environment. Don't know, guess everyones different and just try it out myself.
severely etarded
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^ same environment also. I strongly believe diet is a huge factor regardless of how long you wait
I wonder how the first roll had been if I ate more carbohydrates![:\](https://bluelight.org/xf/BL_Images/Orig_Emoji/wrygrin.gif "wry grin :\")
I wonder how the first roll had been if I ate more carbohydrates
323FallenAngel
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What supplements are you taking? The best thing in my experience is taking 5-HTP 2-3 times a day in between rolls. It quickly replenishes your serotonin so the next time will be enjoyable. I have even been able to enjoyably roll 3 nights in a row because of it. Another suggestion would be to substitute the ecstasy with 5-MeO-MiPT, it is a legal research chemical that provides a similar experience without the hangover and possible neurotoxicity.
cryptix420
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^ do not take 5-htp. It is cardiotoxic.
Folley
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^ Yeah L-Trytophan is basically the same thing, except more effective, you're actually SUPPOSED to take it unlike 5-HTP (its found in food and metabolizes into 5-HTP anyways), and it wont have any of those nasty metabolites and side effects that comes from 5-HTP not being taken in properly by your body
and lol at the dude suggesting 5-MeO-MiPT instead of ecstasy... yeah thats a great replacement... an auditory hallucinogen
and lol at the dude suggesting 5-MeO-MiPT instead of ecstasy... yeah thats a great replacement... an auditory hallucinogen
cryptix420
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^ you are thinking of DiPT. 5-MeO-MiPT is an incredibly erotic DMT-esque psychedelic.
Folley
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Ive heard they are almost exactly the same.
Never heard ANY thing about it being like DMT. But DiPT is supposed to be extremely erotic as well.
Never heard ANY thing about it being like DMT. But DiPT is supposed to be extremely erotic as well.
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Well I've tried DMT (from other sources as well as some I extracted myself) as well as 5-meo-mipt (oral and smoked) so I'm speaking from experience. I am speaking of their fast onset and extreme emotional lability. So hey guess what now you HAVE heard of it!
You learn something new every day.
You learn something new every day.
severely etarded
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same dose, same pills. Unless the spread on the batch was huge. I don't think so.
NJ5227
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I gotta back this guy up here.
I've been on a break from E due to abuse and a traumatic experience, so I started searching RC's that offered the traits i was looking for.
I settled on 5-meo-mipt. Initially, I wasn't able to find a vendor for it, so I tried 5-meo-DALT instead. Recently, I did acquire the MIPT variety, so I can compare the effects of both
DALT is weird. Orally, it is a surface level trip, mostly auditory hallucinations/distortions, CEVs, a mild body buzz and crazy munchies. Smoked, its speedy with a much stronger body buzz, with an erotic edge to it. No hangover from either method, but tolerance builds. After much experimentation, I rate it 3.5/10
MIPT is definitely what I was after. Orally, its a deeper than dalt trip, but still shallow/fun, music sounds incredible, some mild oev/cev, emotional openness (less than mdma), and a very sensual body buzz. Smoked, its a much deeper, introspective trip, with emotional lability and tremors added to much of the same effects as oral, just intensified and lengthened (6-7 hours). I can see the comparisons to DMT when smoked, although the rushes and visuals are nothing on the level, the introspection is. This was a little unexpected twist, but it wasn't unnerving by any means, and the whole experience was positive. No hangovers but again, tolerance can develop. I really liked this one, maybe even better than mdma due to lack of hangover. I could socialize/recreationally use when taken orally, definitely. Overall I rate it 7.5/10.
Folley
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Even if it is similar to DMT, that just furthers my point that it shouldnt be used as an "ecstasy substitute" lol... I mean if you like it and want to use it weekly instead of ecstasy thats great, considering the risks of damaging your brain are quite low... it is widely unresearched of course, so caution should be used.
Having only tried 5-MeO-DiPT, and just guessing that its more similar to MiPT than DMT is... I cant get why you would want to take it at a rave or anything lol... it made all music (but dubstep...) sound like shit
Having only tried 5-MeO-DiPT, and just guessing that its more similar to MiPT than DMT is... I cant get why you would want to take it at a rave or anything lol... it made all music (but dubstep...) sound like shit
NJ5227
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I think you should research your compounds a little more thoroughly before passing judgement on them, because there are significant differences between dipt and mipt. Specifically, audio distortion and body load. Also, again, there are significant differences in the experience between smoking and ingesting mipt. Ingesting I would liken very much to mdma, without the overpowering empathy, body load, and sweating that comes with mdma sometimes. For someone that's familiar with mdma and the like, eating it will seem very familiar, in control and fun, while smoking is probably not for public social environments due to the possible emotional lability/instability and not to mention, people will assume you are smoking crack 8(
In short, mipt is very much imo a viable alternative to mdma-like compounds