Opioids W/D= heart attack?

[panic in paradise]

only hypothetically, i know the right answer to give, but id rather hear some facts/experiences.

ive been taking percocet for around six months now, i had 80 7.5, they were gone in six days...
i cannot buy i ate all those, i separated them into four bottles when i got home with them.

i dont go back to see my doctor until the 28th..!

i have all the classic symptoms on day three, and they are raging.
ive been a chipper for near twenty years; i abused cocaine and alcohol thoroughly so...

my heart has this gulping, hesitant inhalation, the left side of my chest feels collapsed, and is rather painful.
i have a reactive autoimmune d/o; and rib, sternum, lower shoulder blade pain, this is different though.

is a heart attack even possible from w/d alone, or is it more likely that my cardio/pulmonary system is in an "uninhibited hard to control its self state"?

deep down, i do not want to go for any amount of time on these pills, especially for another number of months.
acute vs chronic...

 

[love2party]

I believe it's possible if your heart is in bad shape.

 

[panic in paradise]

^
sensible, t/y.
but my ticker had been checked more times then i remember.
i think im use to controlling hyperventilation,
but cant control this, or am instinctively trying to do so, and the unwanted/unwitting suppression is a' hurtin'.

hmm.
i have osteo arthritis, patella deteriation, and bone 'legions' in my left leg, the pain there is not out of the ordinary...

 

[dcraver877]

i had the same thing happen to me earlier this year. i was chipping dope every weekend using at least twice a week and i decided to take a break for a bit (month and a half). well during this break i did some shitty coke at least once a week that left me with heart palpitations and i seriously think i had a heart attack one night after w/ding from dope, coming down from coke, and i had take benadryl to sleep. i literally was holding my heart for dear life as the pain was excruciating and just layed like that till morning.

saw a cardiologist, did an ekg and stress test and said it was perfect. he asked if i had used cocaine...i said no (stupid, i know but i think there is something to that). i think the stress of the withdrawals, coming down from the coke, and my lyme disease (also includes a few autoimmune disorders) really took a toll on my circulatory system. i think the increased stress from withdrawals makes everything much harder on your heart. be carfeful man. i would stay away from stimulants and take aspirin if you think your bp is getting too high. give it some time. i started supplements with ubiquinol and a multi vitamin and the palpitations went away in a little over a month.

 

[bpayne]

If you are feeling any numbness in the left side of your upper body, or a strong tight "Clenching" in your chest area that makes it hard to breathe then call 911 Immediately , and yes withdrawal causes stress to the body, while death is rare for opiate withdrawal, it can happens and when it does it is most likely due to the withdrawal aggravating other prexisting conditions, ie heart attack, stroke, pneumonia, etc... so moniter yourself carefully and if ever in doubt call 911 immediately, where here for you panic, I myself am on day ONE of withdrawal myself and it SUCKS, I often wonder the same thing, thinking about blood pressure and whatnot during WD, I am currently starting to DRINK and Smoke my way through tonight though, we're here for you though man.. I know.... IT SUCKS!!!

 

[panic in paradise]

sounds plausible, and likely to me.

i haven't used any stims/psychedelics in 10 years or so, 2 for the drank.
im not "freaking out", its just there, moving makes it worse. ive been in w/d numerous tines, but never this sensation, walking down stairs seems more exasperating, then walking up...

ive been to the ER maybe 16 times since taking Remicade last year. they dont like seeing me there...
now i get an EKG, and simple chest x-ray for constant defined pain in my ribs, sternum, and the lower edges of my shoulder blades.

i get the feeling if i did mosey on in with complaints of the left side of my chest, specifically now, there would be no EKG STAT rush, most likely an hour and a half wait.


i feel like i should be in de-tox, but also feel that would smash my chances of receiving relief from this...
but with the way the system works, getting put on methadone for addiction is many many times easier then for legit, life long pain...

good igood info, thanks you all.

 

[Jabberwocky]

i think im use to controlling hyperventilation,
but cant control this, or am instinctively trying to do so, and the unwanted/unwitting suppression is a' hurtin'.

that's kind of what i'm thinkin, pip. that it's perhaps maybe some general anxiety you're unable to control, perhaps being exacerbated by something, but with the pains you're experiencing i honestly haven't a clue. i've never experienced anything like this. it could be a combination of your personal problems and rebound withdrawals associated with finishing the pills.

if things take a turn for the worse you're one to go to the emergency services.

hope you recover soon, mate

 

[panic in paradise]

yeah, this specific chest pain in unusual for me, although probably the more commonly heard complaint for many... heheuhg

im slowly taking .5 & .25 klonopin, and 12 +,- mgs of promethazine, full 25mg promethazine before sleep if needed.
im waiting for some seeds to be brought home.
i tried eating white poppy seeds last night out of desperation, but only got a bunch of carbs, protein, and other minerals/vitamins. nothing wrong with that but...

it has been persistent since the start, and feels stunningly* sore to the touch, at what seems to be bottom right 'atrium'.

 

[AnyCouponWorks]

hey there.

i think it is surely possible in someone already having a propensity for heart issues. your previous other drug use may put you in this category

i abused opiates for two years and then was on suboxone for about a year. every time i tapered down after 4mg, the anxiety would start and then palpitations, and just a constant pounding heart 24 hours a day. also chest tightness, a "soreness" by the heart etc. i had never had any of the symptoms prior to this.

yes - it was anxiety from a mild withdrawal really manifesting as physical symptoms. BUT all of this continued and then REALLY intensified when i finally got off the sub entirely - and i immediately had high blood pressure that persisted for weeks. although, a complete physical ekg showed normal results as far as my heart goes.

i am young healthy, etc. i am clean now entirely for 6 months but i know that the opiate withdrawal caused cardiovascular stress. absolutely. if i had an unhealthy heart who knows what might have occured.

 

[panic in paradise]

okay,,
interesting stuff, the majority of the pain moved to the right side, up higher though by 4" id guess, its still 'sore' to touch that spot, or if i apply much pressure near it.

the seeds were very bitter, bleh, but so sweet; a wild cutting ying ~ yang if there ever was.
i feel a great volley&tumble now inside, starting to sweat actually, not sweating sand grains either, pure get it out sweat.

iam going to lightly test myself, and see where the pain is now,, siting here, typing or rather Swyping slower and slower, so my testing may mostly be done in bed, bath,,, or, beyond lol...


taking deep breaths, it feels like the normal rib pain, and isolated vertebrae pain, which seems to be conjoined with those three ribs L & R, T5 T6 & T7, or T 6, T7 & L1.


*i feel logic breeds understanding, which gathers knowledge and instills a sense of ones self, making it that much less scary. scared = fear(anxiety = fear).

if i did have any numbness i would of gone to an ER, surely.
as that would of been too different from my daily, grind.
i believe all the posts made are true, and logical.

if i felt certain i could, for all practical reasons, i would definitely be excited about kicking.
but in my personal situation, that is not practical,,,, it seems thus far.

~thank you~

Edit: seems half the w/d symptoms are gone, but spreading my arms, standing, or taking a deep breath hurts the left side enough to want to yell out loud.

Edit: going to er, im fairly certain i will be there untill sunrise, in a room, hardly able to get water(seriously the norm) but, i need help, i am capable of a more productive life, this is what and all i want, oh please send some well wish's...
i dont know how much more i can stand, its been years,
of trial and awful errors.

Edit: walking down road in rain 33° to meet ride, treated as fast and common as possible. said as long as i have self respect, ill be back...

Edit: whelp went to my doc, spilled it all honestly, and got very very lucky...
holy frigging frack. that was very scary and unnerving going in to see him, im certain most doctors would of said, something to the effect of "well drop your tolerance and get in touch with your pain...

 

[dcraver877]

sorry im not really clear on what happened. your doc help you out with some meds or what?

 

[panic in paradise]

i wanted to be fairly vague, as this is all nothing to bet on...
but yeah, as i said im my OP, i feel there is no way physically, and im quite certain i wasnt eating 12 7.5 mg percocet a day, i would of remembered spending most of those 6-7 days vomiting and konked out...

i had 80 to last two weeks.

i went in to my pcp, told him what happened, and he refilled my script.

i never thought id have to do that, id normally never leave the house with more then 3 pills, now... im never leaving with more then absolutely necessary.

im so sick of this though, only one increase in dose, and same meds for 6 months?!?

 

[dcraver877]

damn, well glad to hear you got some more pills at least. you should talk to him about a prescription for something without all that acetaminophen. its really bad for your liver; especially in the long term.

 

[Mr Blonde]

Someone stole your meds? That really sucks.

 

[panic in paradise]

no, no one really comes here, lol, except for my CareGiver mmj only and strictly. or a friend who believes benzos are no big deal, and that opioids are pure evil.

the bottle of 30 is in some odd place here some where, but im not going nutzo digging through my house, thats just fueling the fire to me. ive checked the most likely places several times too many...


Edit: @ DCRaver, yeah, that and i haven't read any literature that recommends them for long term chronic pain either, it breeds addiction, but he seems to feel if this particular dose/med cant sustain me, then nothing will.
the stimulant effects are awful, and yeah, its just not made for long term use as a primary med, breakthrough pain sure, but all day and night...
no.