(Vyvanse/60 mg)+(Vicodin/30 mg) First time: Attempted speedball

[swiftnglow]

I have a prescription for Vyvanse, 30mg, once per day. I feel it everyday but it normally wears off around 1pm, when I take it at 6:30am. I have never taken 2 before, but I have taken it to stay awake at night.
So I recently got a hold of 6 500/5 Vicodin pills (for those of you that don't know, 500mg of acetaminophen, and 5mg of hydrocodone). I have never ever taken any opiate before, never has it been prescribed to me nor have I taken it recreationally.
I have done plenty of research on both and I decided taking all 6 at once wouldn't kill me but would be a pretty intense experience since most people take 2-4 their first time.
I have also read much about speedballing, this is taking uppers and downers at the same time. The most intense version of this is injecting heroin and meth IV. Since I had an upper and a downer I decided I would speedball to a less intense extent. By taking vyvanse and the vicodin.
What I heard was good was to grind up the vicodin and mix it into water. I smashed them all into powder and put it into about 15 oz of water. Since it tasted so horrible I added quite a **** ton of Tang to it. About 10 scoops
I mixed up the water and vicodin first to make sure the vicodin wasnt in chunks. Then I added the Tang and shook it all up. I put it in the fridge.

I decided to take the vyvanse first because for me it normally takes an hour and a half to kick and and I heard vicodin is shorter.
I took two pills of the vyvanse at about 11 pm, this is 60 mg of the vyvanse.
At about 11:15, about an hour after I made the Tang-Vicodin concoction, I took out the water bottle and went to King Soopers (the local supermarket) with my friends. As we were talking I worked on drinking the bottle and it actually didn't taste bad after the first few sips. It took me about 15 minutes to finish the bottle. I started feeling the Vyvanse around that time, but I am not sure the exact time.

At around midnight the Vyvanse was certainly kicking it for sure! I was hyper and motivated! But at the same time I thought at the same time I was starting to feel the Vicodin. I felt like I would kind of be out of it, and that everything looked very very slightly different, as in my vision felt a bit smaller.

At around 1 AM I was mainly just feeling the Vyvanse, just assuming the Vicodin was taking a bit to kick in. At this point I was very disappointed that I wasn't feeling the Vicodin. I had dry mouth and such, the side effects from the Vyvanse. But I had no effects or side effects from the Vicodin.
Actually the Vyvanse seemed like I had just taken a normal dose, I wasn't any more hyper than normal.
We got in the car and were driven around town just talking, but absolutely NO Vicodin feeling.
And now, at 5am I don't feel either pill anymore.
Basically the entire night was just the Vyvanse as if I had just taken the normal 30mg instead of the 60mg Vyvanse + 30mg Hydrocodone that I did take.
BIG LETDOWN.

So I have a few questions!

Why did I not feel the Vicodin? Was it because of the way I took it? Did I use too much water, does Tang have some magical ingredient that cancels it out?

Is what I felt at the beginning most likely a placebo or just the Vicodin starting to take effect?

Is the reason that the Vyvanse didn't feel stronger at all because of the Vicodin?

Also, my parents caught me doing drugs 2 weeks ago and they are now giving me random UAs.
I heard most at home drug tests don't test for Hydrocodone, just Morphine and Codeine, etc...

There is a good chance they will drug test me relatively soon (next 1-3 days) because I am going to a concert and they want to see if I do anything there. Now the last drug test they gave me was a Pharmatech At Home Drugs test, on the front of the box it listed about 10-12 drugs that it tested for. I am not sure if this is the 5 or 10 panel drug test.
Based on my description of the cover (I know it is vague) do you know if that test tests for Hydrocodone?
And if it doesn't than good
But if my parents decide to get another drug test that they can simply get at a supermarket of some sort, how many drug tests are out there that DO test for hydrocodone? As in what normal priced drug tests do, should I worry?
And if I should worry what are some good ways to pass the drug test? I definitely will be drinking a LOT of water over the next few days, since it is just my parents giving me a drug test they probably won't notice the clear color of my piss, nor the off pH level.

So basically I would love it if someone could answer some of the questions I have and maybe add some more info you think would be useful for me!


THANKS SOOO MUCH!

 

[dcraver877]

20mg of hydrocodone with no tolderance on its own will definitely be a fairly good high. The properties of hydrocodone are kind of stimulating just like vyvanse. Also, when you take opiates while on amphetamines, it takes a lot more of the opiate to get the same effects since it is a speedball. I think the vyvanse and vicodin synergized very well and thats why you didn't notice the unique effects of the hydrocodone. I bet if you took a smaller dose while not on amphetamines, it would be much more enjoyable since you take uppers every day.

 

[swiftnglow]

Thanks for the info!

I was looking for more of a euphoric relaxed out of it state that I have heard about opiates giving you for so long. I didn't think that hydrocodone was more of a stimulant.

And next time I guess I will just have to take the vicodin so I know its effects well, then I will be able to better notice vicodin effects when I mix with other drugs.

Also... last night in bed for about 10 minutes I had some ketamine feelings. Well I felt like I was full blown tripping ketamine, not completely k holing but very close. I don't know if this was maybe the vicodin, the vyvanse come down, or a placebo of me thinking i would feel the vicodin, or somehow it was just a flashback from when I did ketamine.
The trip was actually cool, it felt like k holing but I still had full ego and such, full connection to physical world. Which is why I wasn't flipping shit when this happened :D

 

[sclexgs300]

Also next time you take Hydrocodone chew and swallow the pill(s) then wait until the opiod effects start to wear off before taking the vyvance. This way you can enjoy the hydro buzz first then let the vyvance add a little boost. The same process applies in reverse - once the stimulant starts to wear off pop the hydro. I remember the good ole days when 1 hydrocodone/ perc would induce euphoria ..sadly now I can take 10-12 norco at once with minimal relief. I take oxymorphone for CP so of percs or hydros are like childrens tylenol lol

 

[BIGRIG]

can u shoot up Vyvanse ???

 

[danceofdays]

the thing about mixing uppers and downers is that, in my experience, mixing two doses that are average for you isn't going to do a hell of a lot. for example, I'd normally take 20mg of dexedrine or snort 15mg of oxycodone to get a decent buzz from one or the other, but mixing those doses would (as you said) cancel a lot of the good effects out. the trick is to use it to your advantage. 40+mg dex, not unsafe but usually an anxiogenic dose for me, can be "leveled out" with 10-15mg oxy creating a very euphoric speedy buzz. similarly, 10mg of dex on top of a heavy oxy nod allows me to function normally with crazy euphoria.

just don't mix high doses of both! that's when everything fucks up

 

[deficiT]

Yeah it's all about dosage, IMO you took too much vyvanse if you were just lookin to chill back. You're daily dose would have provided the euphoria part.

And with vicodin, its got a bunch of acetaminophen in it, so taking a whole bunch of it is no good for your liver. Next time you probably dont need 30 mg's of hydrocodone, (which is also like 3,000 mg's of acetaminophen) especially if you have no tolerance and you've never done opiates before. So much upper from the vyvanse probably made you not feel the vicodin as much.

Me personally, I have a pretty low tolerance for opiates, and if I take more than 5 or 10 mg's of oxycodone (I know it's not the same as hydrocodone) I tend to get kinda messed up.