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Visual distortions from staying up on meth

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I'm not talking shadow people here/or paranoid delusions. I'd take a day or two more to get to that point, and I don't fucking have or want anymore, I'm about to go to sleep at this point.

But,

I'll try to describe them:

You look at an object (it occurs more intensely when there is a large light contrast, like a black bottle in front of my screen), and it seems to be shrinking, but indefinitely (without ever getting smaller), so like a weird pulsing motion from the edges inwards.. That's about it - it's a smooth and subtle motion which is barely noticeable unless I am paying attention/staring. I've experienced something similar and a more intense effect from propylhexedrine+metoprolol (a beta blocker to slow my heart down, but it increased the visual distortion).

Anyone else know what I mean?
 
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Well I do know that if you keep it up without taking care of your self then that could lead to a nasty psychosis.I had patterns on the carpet move and a patter on the wall that looked like gears spinning.....I hate what I did in the past and regret ever using meth. I'm not judging you.....I would hate to see you go thru the hell I have been thru.
 
The one and only time I binged on meth, after a few days I started seeing visual distortion in the form of lumps moving under my carped. No other hallucinations or trippy feelings. After another day, I was sure that there were large bugs underneath the rug and even stabbed one. I even called and spoke with an exterminator. There were no other hallucinations or indications of psychosis. I thought I had been getting enough sleep that it wouldn't happen. Of course when I ran out of meth, the bugs/lumps disappeared.

Anyway, that was the first and last gram of meth I ever got. (Maybe it was a half gram- I don't remember as it was like 13 years ago)
 
Yes, before the level of psychosis which is obvious and results in delusions and not visual distortions, what I would usually experience in terms of sensory distortions by day 2-4 in order of extremity are: (besides the standard good effects)

Mild and still safe: Enhanced colors and brightness, enhanced and distorted smells (bad things smelling good/neutral/unknown, good things smelling overpowered/wierd etc), enhanced audio senses, music sounds great, audio distortions (sounds you think you never heard before), powerful social skills, motivation and energy, genius level IQ and creativity, supernatural ability to attract the opposite sex, enhanced strength, clairvoyance.

Concerning but the best place to be in terms of the high: Radio channel playing in your head (fiulled with songs you never heard before, but are amazing as if your brain was picking up radio signals), intense internal dialog, arguments and debates with yourself...

Amazing ideas and revelations, hours of time passing like a flash almost noticed, forgetting your smoke and drink next to you almost as soon as you get it, spending 2 hours writing a simple email, extreme sexual responses, penis has retreated internally becoming a clitoris, pupils have become beautiful sexy black pools of eternal darkness, digestive system stops functioning, a sense of having obtained supernatural powers while still remaining modest about it, realization that you are superior to the mere humans and everybody else around you.

Danger ahead, slow the fuck down (day 4 or way to much meth...)
: Internal dialog gets out of hand and loops you into extended sessions that are difficult to escape from (can take hours to conquer), imaginary radio becomes far to real to dismiss anymore (amazing songs and DJ's just like real station), strange auditory hallucinations like your fridge meowing like a cat or gnomes having a party in your garden...

...the girls in the pron movies winking at you constantly, the girls in the pron movie taking on an aspect of actually being real and present/alive (like pictures can do on acid/shrooms), strange illogical conversations going on in your head that dont make any sense and that you are not even a part of (as if you where listening to other crazy people talking nearby), delusions of grandeur, a sense absolute power and immorality, lack of blood to the extremities causing sharp pains, extreme euphoria, aggressiveness.

Your almost fucked... Confusion, swimming vision, dizziness, extreme fatigue and tiredness (and other sensations that feel the complete opposite of what a stimulant should cause), anxiety, paranoia, psychosis, blackouts, certainty that you are immortal, a god and cannot ever die, seizures, coma, death and finally ascension and rebirth as Asgardian demi-god.

Fortunately when the swimming vision and dizziness occurs a step 3, its very noticeable no matter how fucked you are, and its possible to implement countermeasures. Ignore that and it becomes anybodies game.
 
Well I do know that if you keep it up without taking care of your self then that could lead to a nasty psychosis.I had patterns on the carpet move and a patter on the wall that looked like gears spinning.....I hate what I did in the past and regret ever using meth. I'm not judging you.....I would hate to see you go thru the hell I have been thru.

Yeah, I'm familiar with the paranoid delusion part, just not the first part. Guess I didn't notice the one time I experienced delusions that I had minor distortions before hand. *shrugs*


Thanks for the concern, but I'm an opioid addict, and not really a fan of uppers. I just bought some (I wanted some for one night....), and apparently .5g can get me spun for a week+ easily. Oh man, I've been soooo high, and still haven't done half of it. I keep it at my buddies house for the very reason that I don't get stupid and stay up for days.


The one and only time I binged on meth, after a few days I started seeing visual distortion in the form of lumps moving under my carped. No other hallucinations or trippy feelings. After another day, I was sure that there were large bugs underneath the rug and even stabbed one. I even called and spoke with an exterminator. There were no other hallucinations or indications of psychosis. I thought I had been getting enough sleep that it wouldn't happen. Of course when I ran out of meth, the bugs/lumps disappeared.

Anyway, that was the first and last gram of meth I ever got. (Maybe it was a half gram- I don't remember as it was like 13 years ago)
Been there with a half of a gram. Was a while before I touched the stuff.

Yes, before the level of psychosis which is obvious and results in delusions and not visual distortions, what I would usually experience in terms of sensory distortions by day 2-4 in order of extremity are: (besides the standard good effects)

Fortunately when the swimming vision and dizziness occurs a step 3, its very noticeable no matter how fucked you are, and its possible to implement countermeasures. Ignore that and it becomes anybodies game.


Yeah, noticed it at 30 hours, which seemed like a surprisingly short about of time, why I was curious.
 
Yeah, this is a fairly common side-effect of sleep deprivation due to stimulant abuse. I'd be inclined to think sleep deprivation by itsself could cause the same side-effect too. Though to a far lesser degree, I'd expect.

Is it also hard for you to focus on text on your computer screen that would normally be easy to read? I've noticed that it becomes hard for me as well when I'm having the side-effects you described. 30 hours is enough for it to be very noticable, and meth is likely worse than regular dl-amphetamine sulphate, which is my stimulant of choice.* if I don't sleep more than 48 hours, usually while still spun on amps, I can barely read letters that I've already zoomed in on anymore, but I don't have to zoom in all THAT much at this point. Going even longer can make it almost impossible to read text at all from a short distance, even when I can ctrl+scroll as much as I please. The bender I did recently caused that to happen. But then again I did 87 hours which is admittely far too long. Then it gets really annoying, lol. Small objects were invisible to me and the bigger ones morphed harder than I've ever experienced.
/EDIT: As (atleast from my experience) dl-amps will give you these distortions seemingly at the same pace as it's big brother, the (truly) delusional thoughts (as in hearing a radio, seeing shadow ppl) seems to come much later, if they are even that common. My thought patterns are somewhat scattered when going a few nights, and I have the attention span of a goldfish, but I've never experiences full on delusions from stims and I've done more 5-6 day benders than I'd care to admit. I bring this up because perhaps that's why I notice the vision thingy so hard every time binges like these happen, you know, because with meth I'd be atleast half-delusional by that point? Just a thought.

Anyway, I speak mostly about the letters on a screen instead of what you described specifically, but, atleast in my case, it's a good indication of how bad my ability to focus has is. (I always thought it obvious this is simply the blurry vision that is impeding your ability to see contures decently. (is that an english word, lol, in any case I'll give a retarded sounding explanation too to make sure; "the imaginary line around an object that you can perceive when looking at an object from your current angle". ) I don't know how true this assumption about it being a temporary inability to focus on something properly. As I said, it's just a theory, but it seems logical to me as it feels exactly like that, an inability to fully focus on something. Also the morphing gets worse at the same pace as the letters get blurry, and at what I feel is exactly the same intensity. Part of the reason I found it logical and just assumed it was probably that. If it's not that I'd be curious to read what it is.

Hope that clears up a thing or two. Some confirmation, or the opposite, from someone who's 100% sure on what it is exactly, and if sleep deprivation is the bigger benefactor or the meth. Both are big factors, that's obvious. But I don't usually stay up more than 1 night (after which I sleep all day) when I'm not using stimulants, so don't know how bad it gets without them.

Be safe, have fun!
PTC
 
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As for reading my screen being hard, no. I can see everything fine when this is occurring, it is so extremely subtle, probably why I didn't notice it the one time I actually was delusional. As I mentioned propylhexedrine (ick) + metoprolol made it SUPER intense, but i could still read just fine, just a bit bendy. I dunno, cause I mentioned the contrast thing I noticed, and this text is black and white and I could read it with no distortion whatsoever. But these huge letters on a cup next to me I could notice it very subtly moving. I wouldn't have noticed it at all if I didn't stare directly at it for a second.


Contours is a word if it is a typo for contours. The only time I experienced actual paranoid delusions was at the 50-60+ hours up from meth. That experience scared me, and since (4 years I think) I've only done it a handful of times, and not a lot or for as long straight. I've honestly find adderal (that's what you mean by d/l right, racemic?) too much less intense than meth, and have only done dexamp like twice.
 
Yeah, we don't have meth in europe. It's not available, dl-amp IS speed here, period. And yeah, basically; adderall is 75%dex 25%levo iirc, and this is racemic so 50/50. I don't have meth to compare it to though, but at the doses I usually consume it can definitely get intense. (Well, what I'd consider intense anyway.) Any RC stim you could compare it to that you know of? I've only tried a few but maybe there's one that's somewhat similar. Or maybe even another illegal substance that can match the intensity?

Also, I'm glad we don't have it, hehe. I'd have been addicted years ago.
 
Yeah, we don't have meth in europe. It's not available, dl-amp IS speed here, period. And yeah, basically; adderall is 75%dex 25%levo iirc, and this is racemic so 50/50. I don't have meth to compare it to though, but at the doses I usually consume it can definitely get intense. (Well, what I'd consider intense anyway.) Any RC stim you could compare it to that you know of? I've only tried a few but maybe there's one that's somewhat similar. Or maybe even another illegal substance that can match the intensity?

Also, I'm glad we don't have it, hehe. I'd have been addicted years ago.

4-fma was kinda close to meth, but a bit more like mdma than meth. Nah, I find it to be VERY close to adderall, honestly, maybe a little more intense. I've only bought either drug less than ten times over like 7 years, so I'm not the best person to compare this stuff.
 
Yeah, this is a fairly common side-effect of sleep deprivation due to stimulant abuse. I'd be inclined to think sleep deprivation by itsself could cause the same side-effect too. Though to a far lesser degree, I'd expect.

Is it also hard for you to focus on text on your computer screen that would normally be easy to read? I've noticed that it becomes hard for me as well when I'm having the side-effects you described. 30 hours is enough for it to be very noticable, and meth is likely worse than regular dl-amphetamine sulphate, which is my stimulant of choice.* if I don't sleep more than 48 hours, usually while still spun on amps, I can barely read letters that I've already zoomed in on anymore, but I don't have to zoom in all THAT much at this point. Going even longer can make it almost impossible to read text at all from a short distance, even when I can ctrl+scroll as much as I please. The bender I did recently caused that to happen. But then again I did 87 hours which is admittely far too long. Then it gets really annoying, lol. Small objects were invisible to me and the bigger ones morphed harder than I've ever experienced.
/EDIT: As (atleast from my experience) dl-amps will give you these distortions seemingly at the same pace as it's big brother, the (truly) delusional thoughts (as in hearing a radio, seeing shadow ppl) seems to come much later, if they are even that common. My thought patterns are somewhat scattered when going a few nights, and I have the attention span of a goldfish, but I've never experiences full on delusions from stims and I've done more 5-6 day benders than I'd care to admit. I bring this up because perhaps that's why I notice the vision thingy so hard every time binges like these happen, you know, because with meth I'd be atleast half-delusional by that point? Just a thought.

Anyway, I speak mostly about the letters on a screen instead of what you described specifically, but, atleast in my case, it's a good indication of how bad my ability to focus has is. (I always thought it obvious this is simply the blurry vision that is impeding your ability to see contures decently. (is that an english word, lol, in any case I'll give a retarded sounding explanation too to make sure; "the imaginary line around an object that you can perceive when looking at an object from your current angle". ) I don't know how true this assumption about it being a temporary inability to focus on something properly. As I said, it's just a theory, but it seems logical to me as it feels exactly like that, an inability to fully focus on something. Also the morphing gets worse at the same pace as the letters get blurry, and at what I feel is exactly the same intensity. Part of the reason I found it logical and just assumed it was probably that. If it's not that I'd be curious to read what it is.

Hope that clears up a thing or two. Some confirmation, or the opposite, from someone who's 100% sure on what it is exactly, and if sleep deprivation is the bigger benefactor or the meth. Both are big factors, that's obvious. But I don't usually stay up more than 1 night (after which I sleep all day) when I'm not using stimulants, so don't know how bad it gets without them.

Be safe, have fun!
PTC

Still haven't slept, and I think my visual distortion just got a got a bit more noticeable. Ima' bout to go to sleep though... I think, no need to play baseball with shadow people, or go hunting them.

Crazy thing, is that the one time I had delusions I had been up less time, but with WAY more meth. Think I did like a gram and a half in that time period with 0 tolerance. It was probably the second quantity I ever bought, and never back to back. Whereas, today I've probably done 20-30mg? lol, it's funny cause I'm not a terribly big fan of the effects of stims. I liked the smaller quantity and shorter lived stimulant effects of the 3-meo-pcp; it has less side effects as well.

That's crazy you don't have that stuff in Europe. I know N. Korea has one of the largest meth problems on earth because the government snyhts it, and then it is sold to their own population. You would think this would cause a temporary increase in ability, followed by a major deficit.
 
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So when do the infamous shadow people visuals happen that you read about here on bluelight or other sites and tweakers talk about? What are they like? I have never taken crystal meth, and when I went a day or two without sleep that was only aided by caffeine I never saw anything like that. I have also never experienced a ghost, spirit, demon, paranormal experience, etc.
 
So when do the infamous shadow people visuals happen that you read about here on bluelight or other sites and tweakers talk about? What are they like? I have never taken crystal meth, and when I went a day or two without sleep that was only aided by caffeine I never saw anything like that. I have also never experienced a ghost, spirit, demon, paranormal experience, etc.

I was up a bit more, and still no delusions. I went to sleep, slept 12 hours, and feel fine now.

Sleep deprivation without a stimulant would take quite a while before you become delusional.

What are they like? Movements out of the corner of your eye that are THERE and REAL to you. They're hallucinations, at this point of being up they're usually accompanied by paranoid delusions about the people, or voices you are hearing, or both lol (never had auditory ones....ever from anything..... only the wawas from N2O). They mirror psychosis/schizophrenia very well, but are obviously reversible quickly with some sleep, and cessation of drugs or probably a single dose of anti-psychotics like seroquel to quickly turn off the dopamine and sedate you + cessation of drugs (obviously...otherwise you won't sleep.)

Dosage is a BIG component. (Now, I never have a tolerance, because I only randomly do it sporadically, every 6 months or something). Only time I've experienced actual delusions was from a larger amount, like 1g over 2-3 days. I was so unprepared how fast they came on! TOO MUCH! WAYYYY TOO MUCH.

This time, Over 5 days, I did like, 200mg or less. No tolerance. 5-10mg will easily get me really high for a few hours, and noticeably still feeling the effects for a few more after that.

To be honest, it has been less fun then 4-FMA, but that's cause I probably take way too large of doses. Never had any delusions from amphetamines or substituted amphetamines with, stimulant like effects. The substituted psychedelic amphetamines never really had delusions, but definitely visual distortions typical of psychedelics, and stimulants DOI/DOB/DOC at the same time. They're quite a trip ;)
 
I was having some random but creepy distortions last night/this morning. I haven't slept since Sunday night and said, "f*** it," to another night since I had a 5am shift at work anyways. I was looking in the mirror and starting to see little people in my nose and mouth, and reflections of people dancing in my eyes. I probably would have tripped out if I cared more...buut I don't haha. Anyways, I just reminded myself that it's just the affects of the drugs/lack of sleep/etc., and would just close my eyes for a few seconds..or what seemed like a few seconds. Time is almost obsolete when you're on ice.
 
My siberian husky has white eyebrows that look like heavily breathing wooly caterpillars.
 
Reminds me of my third night awake, but hadn't smoked In 24 hours or more. But I still was quit messed up somehow. Walking in the dark with my unsuspecting roommate was a challenge. I kept seeing people walking far ahead on the side walk towards us. I saw someone standing behind the bushes far ahead near our stairs. I jumped or got startled in mid sentence a few times and I tried hard to cover my behavior a few times. Most obvious was when I tried to save my ass when I saw someone standing behind our bush, I whispered half the sentence then realized it wasn't real...."oh my god look at that bush............pause..........it...wasn't there yesterday was it?"
What was so difficult is that I knew it wasn't real. But it was pitch dark and like midnight and I was caught by surprise. I am sure my roommate was suspicious but never said anything. So yeah...first time doing the shadow people sighting y'all.
 
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