violence in cronulla - a recreation of... (MERGED)

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I wasn't aware that because women wear skirts they need to be raped, or people walking with their girlfriend along a peaceful suburb deserve to have their guts kicked in and their girls threatened with pack rape from these mongrels. I wasn't aware that stabbing an innocent man at a golf course was what "Australians" thought was ideal.

unless it's 10 on 1 (i.e the lifeguard) they are too fucking scared. but in numbers or with weapons they are fine. they are gutless fucks, these thugs that roam the beaches trying to start trouble with anyone that looks like easy pickings.

but now the tables turned and 5000 or so people turned up to tell them they aren't wanted in the area anymore, it's about time they listened and either cleaned their act up or fucked right off.

Fighting the bra boys, real smart move. I wouldn't be surprised if one or two people died this week.

 

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but now the tables turned and 5000 or so people turned up to tell them they aren't wanted in the area anymore, it's about time they listened and either cleaned their act up or fucked right off..

The key point which seems to hard to get through is that the tables haven't turn on the people who committed the acts you described above. They've turned on a whole community -- many of whom are innocent. But you seem to be ok with targeting innocent people because they share the same racial background as some of the people who committed despicable acts. You seem to be ok with generalising the actions of a few to a whole community.

You're no better than the racist gangs who you described in your post.

 

[0ff1cer_ch0ps]

thats the point im trying to get across, as much as it sounds 4 yr old...

They started it, not last sunday with the lifeguard, but just constant fuckwitness made this happen...

as KS mentions, they dont do shit 1 to 1, or without a weapon, why coz they cant... But we get in trouble for doing their tactics back to them?

That bloke that got stabbed outside the woolooware golf course could of been me, i was going to walk home, and the route i was going to take, would of taken me right to where it happened... he was escorting 3 girls home to make sure they would get home safe, and look at the price he paid, and then the girls got abused verbally and probably mentally also...

But we are not allowed to fuckin fight back? Cmon? There has to be somethng?

We might as well just fuckin lie down to these low cunts and let them kick the shit out of us!

 

[up all night]

no, the violence was fun, it was great seeing a leb being head locked by a cop so he couldnt get bashed anymore, happened outside the house i was at!!!

OMG! That's like, the coolest thing EVAR!

I'm sure I'm not only person who is actually really quite scared about this segregation and violence. It's beyond me just shaking my head and denouncing some people as fucktards... I can't stop thinking how far all of this will actually go. And how the fuck do we stop it?

I'm always surprised how much hatred two groups of people, who don't know each other from a bar of soap, can have towards the other.

Oh and wipe your chin Officer, you're dribbling all over yourself.

 

[0ff1cer_ch0ps]

the tables haven't turn on the people who committed the acts you described above. They've turned on a whole community -- many of whom are innocent.

Yeah, the whole community, its not the whole community, because no shit, we can distingish the good from the bad...

The "Ethnics" that were attacked yesterday KNEW... like fuckin seriously, they were warned by the leaders not to go down to cronulla... but they still did?

Im sure if you got a fuckin survey done on the ratio to good to bad male lebs aged between 15-30... the bad would win by a good percentage...

 

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The key point which seems to hard to get through is that the tables haven't turn on the people who committed the acts you described above. They've turned on a whole community -- many of whom are innocent. But you seem to be ok with targeting innocent people because they share the same racial background as some of the people who committed despicable acts. You seem to be ok with generalising the actions of a few to a whole community.

You're no better than the racist gangs who you described in your post.

you all seem to be putting the entire 5000 protesters in the same group as the few small groups of racist Australians that attacked the Middle Eastern people yesterday at Cronulla.

the majority of the day, everyone was enjoying themselves and out in a peaceful protest. the majority of Middle Eastern people at the beach were probably there peacefully aswell.

 

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Yeah, the whole community, its not the whole community, because no shit, we can distingish the good from the bad...

riight... and when that comment is quickly followed by something like:

Im sure if you got a fuckin survey done on the ratio to good to bad male lebs aged between 15-30... the bad would win by a good percentage...

It quickly becomes apparent you're very ignorant and racist.

As for:

The "Ethnics" that were attacked yesterday KNEW... like fuckin seriously, they were warned by the leaders not to go down to cronulla... but they still did?

Why the hell shouldn't people be allowed to go to a beach just because they look Middle Eastern?

 

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you all seem to be putting the entire 5000 protesters in the same group as the few small groups of racist Australians that attacked the Middle Eastern people yesterday at Cronulla.

When this turned violent they should have left. They shouldn't be there supporting mob violence. If you're part of a mob that is turning violent and you decide to continue to be part of that mob, then you're in the wrong. As simple as that.

 

[fuzzydog]

*Bra Boys respect* a group of mates who hated the shit going on in there community and decided to clean it up and are now getting accused for something they had nothing to do, the local that got stabbed in the back and beaten by 2 car loads of lebs sums it all up(f****n cowards), It's only a matter of time when us surfers group together to get the GC back..

 

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Why the hell should people be allowed to go to a beach just because they look Middle Eastern?

People should be allowed to go to the beach anytime they like, aslong as they aren't there to bash, rob, rape and generally be cunts to the locals of the area.

unfortunately, there's a lot of middle eastern youths that do just this. they are the ones that have fucking spoiled it for the others.

 

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unfortunately, there's a lot of middle eastern youths that do just this. they are the ones that have fucking spoiled it for the others.

So you are justifying "spoiling it for the others". You think it's ok because "a lot of middle eastern youths" do that shit? You think all Middle Easterners are responsible for every other Middle Easterner? By the same token do you think all caucasian Australians are responsible for all caucasian Australians?

 

[Faustus]

In some way I am disgusted at what happened but on the other hand I was well not happy but well ummmm,.... it is about time.

My childhood from about 15 to 22 was filled with fights with lebs just because i am an Aussie. Not once did I ever provoke a fight apart from being at a certain place at a certain time.. Example... my bus stop, or at the beach.

Am I racist... yes I am. Wish I could not be but due to things in the past I cant help it. When I see a arab youth I usually think violent and well a dickhead.

It was a small number of people who were violent and the majority had nothing to do with the violence. It also shows why I had alcohol and love drugs.

 

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we've got a mob who didn't just target Australians of Middle Eastern origin, they smashed an Ambulance and pelted beer bottles at police. There is no way ANYONE can justify this mob. I can't think of anything further from Australian morals than this.

 

[quiet roar]

Redneck fucktards hunting anyone "ethnic" = Lebo wankers bashing anyone "white"


Don't really care who started it, you are both the fucking same and I hope you all collapse in a heap today.

 

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So you are justifying "spoiling it for the others". You think it's ok because "a lot of middle eastern youths" do that shit? You think all Middle Easterners are responsible for every other Middle Easterner? By the same token do you think all caucasian Australians are responsible for all caucasian Australians?

I don't think it's okay that some Middle Eastern wankers wanted to go and give their entire race a bad name in the area. If they are looking at people to blame, then blame themselves. If their parents aren't teaching their children the proper life values (i.e dont rape, dont steal, dont bash kids in large groups, dont stab people, dont do burnouts at 3am, etc, etc) then I really think this is going to solve nothing.

I'm fairly certain that if you are getting bullied at school, putting up with the same prick bashing you day after day for 5 years, one day you're going to want to fight back and put a stop to this once and for all and this is all the people of the Shire want. They want this fucking bullshit to end and end now.

and for those who say "leave it to the police" look exactly what the Police solved in the other beaches of Sydney? absolutely nothing, it took the local surf group to rid the beaches around their areas of violent crimes and they are now the best beaches in Sydney in relation to crime rates.

 

[Beatlebot]

Yeah cause violence has such a great history of ending violence. Especially indisciminate violence. It's turned out real well so far hasn't it? 8)

 

[0ff1cer_ch0ps]

we've got a mob who didn't just target Australians of Middle Eastern origin, they smashed an Ambulance and pelted beer bottles at police. There is no way ANYONE can justify this mob. I can't think of anything further from Australian morals than this.

were you there? do you know the reason story behind this???

NO...

so, why were the ambulances and cop cars attacked, because they wanted the "middle eastern" people inside the vehchles.... not because we were against them...

the cops were on our side all day it seemed, they let us do what we wanted... besides bash the fuck out of the lebs of course 8)

 

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Yeah cause violence has such a great history of ending violence. Especially indisciminate violence. It's turned out real well so far hasn't it? 8)

yes, it worked for Maroubra.

AM - Monday, 12 December , 2005 08:08:00
Reporter: Tanya Nolan
TONY EASTLEY: The State Liberal MP for Cronulla, Malcolm Kerr, says he supports the rights of locals to protest against what he describes as "years" of anti-social behaviour by Lebanese gangs coming into the area, but he says locals should be ashamed of yesterday's violence.

Mr Kerr, an MP for more than 20 years, has been telling our reporter, Tanya Nolan, there's been a lack of adequate policing for a long time.

MALCOLM KERR: Well, there's been a history of trouble of these gangs basically insulting, abusing people. That's turned to violence on a number of occasions, and then you had last Sunday, where a couple of lifesavers were injured.

So you've had this simmering anger and frustration and a lack of policing over the years. I've been calling attention to the need to have more police with this sort of situation brewing.

TANYA NOLAN: What I've been hearing is that a lot of the concerns to do with gangs coming to the beach, of gangs of Lebanese descent or Middle Eastern descent, have been largely anecdotal. What sort of statistics are there? Have there been many police arrests?

MALCOLM KERR: The police say they've only had one assault this year. But you must bear in mind that a lot of the antisocial behaviour hasn't resulted in reports to police.

People have been abused, spat on, insulted, but they haven't taken action against police, they've moved away from what they were. They've had their freedoms curtailed. While it's anecdotal, the people that have given the stories are quite credible and have no reason to lie.

So there has been that level of antisocial activity, that level of bad behaviour, and I think the population are now finding that intolerable.

TANYA NOLAN: Were you supportive of the community's decision to protest against the trouble that was going on at the beach with these gangs?

MALCOLM KERR: Well, I would support the community exercising its right. Nobody had a problem with people coming down to beaches and parks and observing the law. What we saw yesterday… nobody could condone attacks on bystanders, or attacks even on an ambulance, that occurred yesterday.

So the situation is that I would have been happy if people had taken to the beaches rather than the streets.

TANYA NOLAN: Do you think that the locals of Cronulla have anything to be ashamed about in relation to yesterday's violence?

MALCOLM KERR: Clearly, yes.

TONY EASTLEY: Cronulla Liberal MP Malcolm Kerr speaking there, with Tanya Nolan.

 

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My sentiments are shared here:

...at least four people were bashed when the crowd attacked anyone they thought was "a Leb".

One Muslim woman was targeted by the crowd and was forced to shelter in a kiosk while an angry mob outside chanted racist slogans, including "kill the Lebs", "kill the wogs" and "go home Lebby scum".

Two ambulance officers were injured when they came under attack from locals hurling beer bottles. Police used capsicum spray, batons, dogs and mounted patrols to control the crowds and to protect those who were being attacked.

At least eight people had been injured late yesterday, including two ambulance officers, one of whom was struck on the head with a bottle.

...I'm already disgusted.

Speaking before the revenge attacks, NSW Police Commissioner Ken Moroney condemned the violence as un-Australian, saying he was "ashamed as a man and as the Commissioner of Police".

"By any test, by any measure, that which we have seen here today is clearly un-Australian," he said. "It's not Australian to adopt a mob mentality and assault women. I have never in all my working days seen anything as un-Australian."

Far-Right groups, including Australia First, distributed inflammatory literature at the beach, as did skinhead groups.

Australia First NSW secretary Jim Saleam confirmed that his group had been distributing anti-multicultural and anti-immigrant literature at the beach.

Mr Saleam also confirmed the group had helped mobilise people for the demonstration.

Read the complete and original article here >>

 

[Beatlebot]

I don't see anything in that article that says the violence has worked. In fact isn't Marouba where all the cars windows were smashed following the violence against the middle-eastern community (or anyone who happened to look middle-eastern)?

Seems that you hit them, they hit back and so on and so on.