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Vicodins (5/500apap)?

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Can I take 25 mgs of hydrocodone without a cwe, I really dont have time to do that at the moment, and it would be 2500 apap that I would be injesting? I know it's alot but as Ive heard its not enough for a overdose? What do you guys recommend I do? Thanks.
 
Recommended safe levels are 3000-4000mg in 24 hours. In the UK a max single dose according to prescribing guidelines is 1000mg (not sure about the US) but I usually say don't go over 2000mg and don't do that too often. 2500mg is pushing it - probably okay as a one off, but we can't possibly guarantee that. All these doses assume your liver is functioning perfectly too (and who really kows that for sure?) and that you aren't consuming alcohol (or other drugs that tax the liver) alongside the APAP.

Although 2500mg would probably be fine, I personally wouldn't risk it without a CWE and it is a dangerous habit to get into thinking "oh I haven't got time, I'll be okay this once.."
 
4k is the maximum recommended daily dose with 1k being the maximum recommended dose. The APAP danger is a bit over-stated if you ask me. To have an ungodly amount of hepatic damage done, one would have to take a lot more than these doses at once. I wouldn't take more than ~2k at once though for it will make you sick, but in the sake of HR, you shouldn't take much more than 1k per dose and not much more than 4k per day.
 
I'd like to add that after consuming that much tylenol you're going to wake up stiff as hell the next day and probably want to take more to loosen up. And the journey begins..
 
^ it might be overstated for the majority of people, but fairly low amounts have been known to cause severe liver damage sometimes, and the therapeutic window is so narrow - that is why we are seem over cautious. You never know who will be the unlucky person who gets liver damage from just a little over the recommended dose, and as I said all those figured are assuming a perfecly functioning liver. It is a fine line between being so over-cautious that people ignore us and not being cautious enough - but with APAP the risks are so high, I don't think it is worth fucking around :)
 
haha I've never became addicted to anything Iv'e ever done, I normally know how to keep it safe and how to dose over a amount of days etc. But thanks for the advice guys, I at this point think I'll be safe if I consume this amount, but don't make it a daily thing or even do again tommorow cause then I'll be really pushing it...But I'll wait for a couple more posts to see peoples opinions and then We'll see haha:)

I dont have coffee filters for the cwe theirs another thing! lol
 
Ya, just don't keep doing vicodin, or you'll end up like me where you can take 4 of the 10's and not get high lmfao...
 
Ok I found this as I was searching for a easier method to do the cwe?..


http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/272847-COLD-WATER-EXTRACTION-made-simple(r)

How much water results from doing the cwe? It really is this easy? I feel like no matter how easy this sounds Im gonna end up fucking it up and loosing my sweet vicodin:( hahaha nah but for real, Is this really worth doing? and Is this method accurate?
 
Be wary of going by someone saying "I take that amount all the time and am fine" - everyone is different; the fact is, that is a higher dose than is recommended in one go - not drastically higher so as a once off it is probably okay but we can't promise it and don't make a habit of it!! If you can do a CWE it will certainly be safer, there is no doubt about it, but as Doug said 2500mg isn't what you would call overdose level.

I use two layers of kitchen roll (paper towel? The stuff you have in kitchens for mopping up spillages or wiping greasy fingers) in a makeshift funnel (The top cut off a 2L pop bottle) - dampen the kitchen roll slightly so the liquid passes through it easily and use a double layer to make sure it filters it enough. Don't be tempted to squeeze or it will split! If you are CWEing a lot of pills you can roughly filter them through some loosly woven fabric to remove a lot of the solids then filter properly through kitchen roll/coffee filters but with 5 pills this should not be a problem. Some people use fabric as a filter - this makes me nervous as some is fine but some is not, but others swear by it - if you go for this, choose a closely-woven fabric and ideally a double layer. If the solution is milky or has particles in it, re-filter. Coffee filters are the best, really.

Here is the CWE megathread :) Erowid's version is the most throrough but I don't think you need to use hot water to dissole the tablets then ice personally - I just use tap water in winter, refridgerated water in summer, and personally I crush the pills by hitting them while in their blister pack then using a hand blender, or you can crush the pills beforehand and stir until they dissolve. Remember a small amount of APAP can dissolve so use the minimum amount possible to dissolve the pills eithout it being all sludgy - but again, with only 200mg APAP this isn't a big concern - it becomes moreso when you start CWEing 50 8/00 codeine/APAP pills, haha..
 
How much water is left over by doing a cwe?, I think the whole process is strange and I don't understand how it doesn't filter out the hydrocodone to? but whatever I'll try it I guess...I BETTER NOT FUCK UP hahaha thanks again guys...btw does it hit you faster and harder by doing this?
 
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