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Vicodin 5/500 fucking blows anybody else have this issue?

Violenza666

Violenza666

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Now for a long time I thought it was a mental thing for me but vicodin 5/500 fucking blows. If I take it as prescribed or cwe it and use it for recreation I get sick no matter what. I have a decent opiate tolerance but WTF is up with this. Does it differ from other hydrocodone apap combos are their different binders/fillers in this variation? I don't know but either way it fucking sucks. Also how do you tell a dr Vic 5/500 make you sick while pills containing a higher dose of hydro and less apap or oxycodone does not make you sick? I don't get it especially because they make me I'll even with a cwe. Hydrocodone is hydrocodone... WTF? Anybody else have this problem?
 
That ratio of hydrocodone to apap was created to specifically prevent easy abuse, their logic behind it is dead wrong, but, alas, they succeeded.

I don't think many people here will tell you how to get better pills, as the site is dedicated to harm reduction.

If you are taking large doses of apap, then this is obviously why you are feeling nausea. Of course if you are take 10/325 hydrocodones, you will probably get less nauseated.

If you are taking more than 60mg of hydrocodone at once, every day, you could be doing serious damage to your liver.

I actually had the opposite of this problem. I took five 15mg (oxycodone, no apap, IR) and got a FUCKING POUNDING headache which did not subside even after the oxycodone started to kick in, there was absolutely no euphoria. I took 1 gram of acetaminophen, and forty five minutes later I had no headache, and was high as a kite (three hours after initial dosage).
 
i completely agree with you. i have an oxy habit and a really high opiate tolerance but i just quit... then i had to go to the dr for a legit reason and (go figure) she prescribed me the 5/500s. me bein the opiate addict I am, i took like six of em. I was fine for awhile but ended up with the WORST headache a few hours in. So next i tried a CWE. still felt like shit. i think the only thing the 5/500s are good for is wds, and prob don't take more than three at a time. it's not worth trying to chase a high.
 
Violenza666 said:
Also how do you tell a dr Vic 5/500 make you sick while pills containing a higher dose of hydro and less apap or oxycodone does not make you sick?
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perhaps you could tell him that acetaminophen in general makes you stomach hurt. Hydrocodone is also available as a 7.5mg hydrocodone 200mg ibuprofin tablet, called vicoprofin i believe.

In my opinion, hydrocodone always seems lacking when compared to other prescription narcs. It's euphoric aspect is extremely short lived, and the line between not feeling it at all vs. taking too much and feeling nauseous is so close it's difficult to properly dose.

good luck.
 
Seriously, the APAP side effects can be brutal. Mine came entirely out of the blue and even when I tried to cold press that APA out, it just didn't have the same effect. I can't get doc. to cooperate around here, either, to switch to Vicoprofen. So I'm just kind of screwed. I didn't have any issue with 5/500, though, versus 7.5 or 10.
 
Thanks for the replies, I thought it was just me. I don't normally get the 5/500 I usually get the 10/325s. I went to an urgent care place for a legit reason and that's what they gave me. Even with a cwe i felt like total shit I just won't take that combo again and if Dr tries to give it too me I won't get it filled or ask for half the pills and for the 10/325 combo to avoid this issue.

I'm not sure how much of the apap came out in the cwe but I won't be messing with those again. Atleast I'm not the only one.
 
I'm not going to lie, the 5/500's at one point in time gave me the best highs I've ever experienced. Heroin, Oxy, Dillies, etc...not even close, of course I was opiate-naive at the time, and we all fall in love with the opiate that gives us our first blissfull high, but I digress.

Unless you take a year-long break following your dance with oxy, the 5/500's aren't going to give you what you need/want. Yeah, you can CWE ten of them, but I'm guessing you only have ten or twenty. Good luck!
 
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I'm not going to lie, the 5/500's at one point in time gave me the best highs I've ever experienced.
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This is very true. Almost every opioid addict at one point got fucked up on just a few 5/500s. I sure did.


I had a younger, opioid naive friend tell me once he got super fucked up on 7 percocets! I was astonished. How did he not vomit uncontrollably on what was probably 30-70mg of oxycodone!

Until he showed me one.

I learned then 2.5/325mg oxycodones existence.
 
Lortab Rocks

In SWIM's experience the best hydrocodone brands are Lortab and Norco, the worst for getting high are Vicodin and Zydone.
 
Hedonist1990 said:
In SWIM's experience the best hydrocodone brands are Lortab and Norco, the worst for getting high are Vicodin and Zydone.
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There really is no difference except VERY VERY subtle changes in quality control. Like Vicodin brand allows +/- .2 mg in a 10mg pill, and lortabl allows +/-.1 deviation in a 10mg pill.

You aren't getting some special shit, where vicodin 10/325s really have 14mg!

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You'd rather be getting qualitest 5-500s then mallinckrodt's preperation of 10-325? Unless there is something which prevents cold water extractions or something to this tune, this makes about as much sense as the previous post.

You see, if you receiving 'norcos' they would not be mallinckrodts, as the norco trademark is owned by Watson.

Norco is not some word for 10-325 hydrocodone tables, as my buddy has gotten 5-325s made by Watson also referred to as norcos, and they also make a 7.5/325 preparation, the only difference is ALL of them only have 325 of apap.

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Uh, a tolerance of 120-160mg of oxycodone, is not equivalent to 500mg of morphine.

In fact, if 120mg of oxycodone gets you really fucked up, a half gram of morphine could very well kill you.
 
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M367 is indeed made my mallinckrodt. I said nothing to the contrary. I'm telling you it isn't a Norco.


Again, just because it is a 10-325 preparation, this does not make it a 'norco.'

I have had hundred and hundreds of V3601, a qualitest brand generic 10-325. It is perfectly perfectly fine, and sure as fuck on the label would say "substituted for Norco 10-325," because IT IS NOT A FUCKING NORCO. It is a generic of a patented pharmaceutical preparation. If you can't understand that, I can't help you.


If your pill does not look like the following picture, it is not a 10-325 'Norco.'

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wiggi said:
Source? I seriously hope you are joking.
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I'm as serious as cancer my friend.

In order to be a schedule III drug hydrocodone must be paired with another pharmaceutical and contain no more than 15mg per pill.

If a pill exceeds that dose, or is hydrocodone by itself, it is a schedule II substance.


I don't know what you took my statement to mean. There wasn't any study I know of that gave a bunch of addicts different ratios of hydrocodone, and found which was the hardest to get fucked up on. I'd sign up for that shit though.



What I meant behind the ideology of the 5-500 preparation, is that it is often the narcotic of choice prescribed in low quantities in emergency rooms for minor injuries. Any legitimate non tolerant patient should receive analgesia from this quantity; now if an opioid tolerant person is drug seeking at an emergency room, 20 5-500's is jack shit. The ideology is that it is less abusable, that's why it is in a FAR less restricted scheduling of drugs.
 
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No. That's not what I'm trying to argue at all.

Many people are very confused about what norco means, and use it interchangeably to mean all kinds of things. I've encountered people who believe that any 10-500 pill is a norco! Cause norco only means it has 10mg of hydrocodone.

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You're the hopeless mother fucker who previously stated there is a vast difference between the two!

Yuh think what I'm saying is stupid, but this is the direct opposite of what you just said.


Since you seem to have a very big difference of opinion about brand name Vs. generic; how Qualitest 10-325's are so shitty that a 5-500 drug would by preferable.

You're nearly a laugh, but really a cry.
 
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lol you are truly one dumb motherfucker......its NOT all norco, its all hydrocodone. Norco is a specific brand of a pill containing hydrocodone and apap. Geez the amount of fucking idiots on BL lately are getting really fucking annoying.
 
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