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Very weird first mdma(molly) experience

thizzlemonster86

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ok so i have taken E pills many times and iv had a lot of good one an couple bad ones. so recently i tried molly aka mdma for the first time. first i dosed me and all my friends at 150mg each. that had little to no effect on everyone including myself. so the next day i dose everyone including myself around or a little above 200mg each. two of my friends felt it. my friend J was feeling REALLY good and my other buddy R was feeling "pretty good". oh and before i continue i want to let everyone know that everyone in this untrue story has some experience with E. about 45min. into it my friend J was rolling very hard as usual. now the weird part. so its about an hour into it and im kinda feeling it but very hot and i mean hotter that usual. i checked with everyone else that took it and they also feel abnormally hot. now about about an hour an a half im "peaking". but the thing is im not REALLY feeling like my friends. so i pop another 200mg. about an hour later im still feeling about the same as before and it feels kinda good but just not how it should be. its just felt like so much of the feeling was missing. the eye wobbles are almost non existant and jaw clinching is very minimal. the thing i cant understand is how my friend J was rolling SO HARD i mean the hardest iv ever seen i think. the whole thing has me so confused. iv taken a few pills with J before and he always takes about as much as me. but for some reason J ALWAYS gets the most fucked up iv ever seen somebody on E. his eyes are going all over the place so bad im suprised he can actually see anything at all. honestly i didnt know somebody could get that fucked up on E. all he can do is lay there an rub on the floor an do these weird humping motions. its actually pretty amusing to watch just how fucked he is. its funny cause he is completely coherent but he looks as though he is having a seizure and it actually scared the shit out of me the first time he rolled. i dont know what it is but he rolls ballzzzzzz so hard i just cant believe it every time we roll i just look at him like how the fuck does he do it? iv NEVER seen anyone roll as hard as J. period. so basically im just wondering wtf is going on with me. how come i didnt feel it like i should have but J was rollin ballz harder than ever. i might add there was another person that took a 200mg and another 200mg an hour later with me her name is V. V had just gotten off her period and not sure if that could affect her roll. the weird thing is she started to feel the roll coming and then it just started to wear off slowly. that is pretty much the same thing that happened to me. i might also add that im a male in and i weigh about 150lbs and V weighs about 110lbs. it was very weird cause i was on the verge of rolling pretty good but just wouldnt hit me like it should. i was get just tiny bits of euphoria and my eyes would roll to the back of my head every so often an my jaw clinched just a bit. the only thing i could think that fucked up my roll is i have been taking kind of a lot of oxycontin lately and i only waited about 5 to 7 hours after taking my last dose of oxy wich was about 35 to 40 mg. is it possible that the oxy might of killed my roll? has anyone ever experienced something like this before? if so please tell cause i am out of ideas as to why some people feel the molly hard(J), some(R) feel it pretty good, some(me) kinda feel it, and some(V) barely feel it at all. please if any of you guys have any ideas whats going on please chime in. at this point i kinda dont know what to do and i dont wanna keep upping the dose beyond 250mg as that seems a bit unsafe. im really wondering why im having to dose it so high for people to feel it at all. im guessing its cut with something but i pretty sure its not meth cause everyone including J slept like a baby and also his roll was a typical MDMA looking roll for him and he said he felt fucking awesome. PLEASE HELP ME!
 
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Is that a typo or are you trolling?

If you're serious i'm going to say the molly was cut or not even MDMA as you never tested it or failed to mention doing so.

How are we meant to determine why you're friend is rolling balls and you're not? They're too many variables: tolerance, duration of time between your last MDMA experience, pre oxycontin consumption to name a few.

Next time wait 1 month, avoid any poly drug-use that may nullify a roll and get the shit tested. Not only is it safer but most probably more enjoyable also.
 
oh sorry. i forgot to mention i didnt test it yet. im waiting on my test kit to come. i was just wondering if anyone might have any ideas about whats going on. basically i wanted to see if anyone else had experiences where oxy or any other opiates have messed with there roll. my best guess is a combination of what JWills20 said. i think it is most likely cut molly and the oxy messed with my roll. oh and im not trollin bro lol. i always tell the truth even when i lie, get me? well anyways you are right though. there are too many variables. not to mention the pointless 150mg dose i took the day before probably made my tolerance go up a bit. i going to wait a week or so and go clean for the whole week no oxy or anything and try another 200mg dose an see what happens then. its still kinda weird that my buddy rolled so hard and i barley felt it. i dont roll very often. i do it about every couple months at the most. and it still doesnt make any sense that my friend V barely felt anything and she took as much as me wich was about 400+ mg in about an hour and half. she only weighs about 110lbs lol. oh if it wasnt molly at all then how the fuck did my friend roll so hard that night? what other substances are there that do what MDMA does? yeah there are a couple RC's that come kinda close but its just not the same from what iv heard. my buddy J wouldnt have rolled his ballz off that night if it wasnt MDMA bro! if you disagree please say so. i would like to hear any opinions disagreeing with mine. it has to be MDMA cause i have rolled hard with J before and we were both rolling hard but with the molly it only affected him a lot. but with the molly he was even more fucked than any pill we have taken. so you see why i cant figure this out now? its very strange. it has to be something not right with me and my friend V. im thinking the oxy and my tolerance fucked my roll and her period fucked hers. if anyone has any other ideas than please chime in. thanks. PLUR.
 
bk-mdma (methylone), 6-apb, mdai, probably more. if you're used to pills, you may be used to something that isn't mdma as pills are notorious for containing all kinds of shit except for mdma. waiting a week isn't a good idea if you want to feel great, wait a month at least. and opiates dull the effects of mdma.
 
thizzlemonster86 said:
oh sorry. i forgot to mention i didnt test it yet. im waiting on my test kit to come. i was just wondering if anyone might have any ideas about whats going on. basically i wanted to see if anyone else had experiences where oxy or any other opiates have messed with there roll. my best guess is a combination of what JWills20 said. i think it is most likely cut molly and the oxy messed with my roll. oh and im not trollin bro lol. i always tell the truth even when i lie, get me? well anyways you are right though. there are too many variables. not to mention the pointless 150mg dose i took the day before probably made my tolerance go up a bit. i going to wait a week or so and go clean for the whole week no oxy or anything and try another 200mg dose an see what happens then. its still kinda weird that my buddy rolled so hard and i barley felt it. i dont roll very often. i do it about every couple months at the most. and it still doesnt make any sense that my friend V barely felt anything and she took as much as me wich was about 400+ mg in about an hour and half. she only weighs about 110lbs lol. oh if it wasnt molly at all then how the fuck did my friend roll so hard that night? what other substances are there that do what MDMA does? yeah there are a couple RC's that come kinda close but its just not the same from what iv heard. my buddy J wouldnt have rolled his ballz off that night if it wasnt MDMA bro! if you disagree please say so. i would like to hear any opinions disagreeing with mine. it has to be MDMA cause i have rolled hard with J before and we were both rolling hard but with the molly it only affected him a lot. but with the molly he was even more fucked than any pill we have taken. so you see why i cant figure this out now? its very strange. it has to be something not right with me and my friend V. im thinking the oxy and my tolerance fucked my roll and her period fucked hers. if anyone has any other ideas than please chime in. thanks. PLUR.
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Firstly, 1 week isn't sufficient for a full recovery and subsequently you can't expect the experience to be good nor safe. During this time your brain is trying to recover the vast amounts of serotonin released and therefore instead the SERT are getting flooded with dopamine which is toxic to the transporters destroying them (neurotoxicity). The body is slow at recovering and repairing serotonin functioning, in comparison to dopamine, and this is why rolling with little moderation between rolls can reduce the "magic" and cause more potential negative side-effects. Read this its really useful for understanding how MDMA works and why you can't abuse it and still enjoy it as much. http://dancesafe.org/drug-information/ecstasy-slideshow

It is recommended to wait one month minimum and 3 months for the best potential harm reduction which comes from Shulgin himself! Even longer is obviously good too.

If you are hell-bent on rolling next week even though the potential adverse affects are much greater and pronounced; get it tested and don't dose more than 200mg. If you're MDMA was uncut you wouldn't need that anyway.

Be safe.
 
yeah i think it is cut with something. can you test for methlylone? yeah methylone or mephadrone i think. another thing is it is more of a white powder crystals than the normal cola colored chunky crystals. not sure if it matters really? but yeah i need a test kit if im going to be trying anymore molly. its weird cause i did kinda roll but it was just lacking so much of the good feeling ur suppose to get. it doesnt keep you up as a matter of fact it does the opposite. after the short lived roll you get wich lasts about 2 hours tops you get tired. so idk? ill test it soon. i know i should wait a month until i roll again an i will wait a bit longer your right. thanks for all the helpful info.
 
thizzlemonster86 said:
yeah i think it is cut with something. can you test for methlylone? yeah methylone or mephadrone i think. another thing is it is more of a white powder crystals than the normal cola colored chunky crystals. not sure if it matters really? but yeah i need a test kit if im going to be trying anymore molly. its weird cause i did kinda roll but it was just lacking so much of the good feeling ur suppose to get. it doesnt keep you up as a matter of fact it does the opposite. after the short lived roll you get wich lasts about 2 hours tops you get tired. so idk? ill test it soon. i know i should wait a month until i roll again an i will wait a bit longer your right. thanks for all the helpful info.
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Yeh I believe Methylone shows yellow on the marquis when tested. Maybe you've just abused MDMA and have lost the "magic" maybe look into piracetam although I know little about it, I've read stories of it restoring the magic.
 
i really dont think iv already lost the magic. i have only rolled about 20 times total. ill admit i havnt been giving very much time in between lately. but i always wait at at least a couple of weeks. yeah ill look into that stuff for sure though. also iv been reading 5-htp can help a lot in between rolls to restore serotonin. cool thanks JWills20 and i against i.
 
thizzlemonster86 said:
i really dont think iv already lost the magic. i have only rolled about 20 times total. ill admit i havnt been giving very much time in between lately. but i always wait at at least a couple of weeks. yeah ill look into that stuff for sure though. also iv been reading 5-htp can help a lot in between rolls to restore serotonin. cool thanks JWills20 and i against i.
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Can't find the reference right now but 5-HTP isn't as good as everyone seems to think. I'm currently pre-loading for my next roll and looked into 5-HTP but it seems an unnatural means and the body finds it toxic. Just eat a healthy diet full of L-tryptothan based foods - Sam's e-diet is useful and seems to work from subjective perspectives.

20 rolls is probably enough to lose the magic if not spaced out but thats just my opinion. I don't think its quantity of rolls as opposed to time between rolls that destroys the SERT and subsequent serotonin availability. For example, 3 rolls in 3 weeks would potentially ruin the experience more than 10 rolls in 10 months just because the brain has time to recover between rolls and damage can be repaired instead of stacking up like 3 in 3 weeks could. These are all my speculations however.

No idea, someone only suggested Piracetam to me the other day, try looking around online.
 
well 20 rolls in a time span of about 5 years does not sound like a lot to me. its just recently that i tried rolling with just weeks to a month in between bro. i really dont abuse it bro. i really just think the molly i got is either cut to shit or its methylone. i have some good beans im gonna pop in a few days to really test if iv lost the magic. im just gonna eat some chicken as it contains the most L-tryptophan than any other food if im not mistaken.
 
thizzlemonster86 said:
well 20 rolls in a time span of about 5 years does not sound like a lot to me. its just recently that i tried rolling with just weeks to a month in between bro. i really dont abuse it bro. i really just think the molly i got is either cut to shit or its methylone. i have some good beans im gonna pop in a few days to really test if iv lost the magic. im just gonna eat some chicken as it contains the most L-tryptophan than any other food if im not mistaken.
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Go for it! I'm not suggesting you have lost the magic, just some possibilities in response to your initial post about not experiencing much.

PM me how it goes with these good tested pills, i'm interested.
 
thizzlemonster86 said:
yeah i think it is cut with something. can you test for methlylone?
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I dont think this was specifically answered, so I will real quick.


You can buy a Reagent Tester online for about $25. Basically, you add your sample to the puddle, and whatever color it turns represents the drug that is in the sample.

They test for MDMA, meth, piperazines, methylone, mephedrone, 2C-x, DOx, and much, much more. The marquis can even tell if it has more than one substance in it (like a meth + MDMA pill)

http://dancesafe.org/node/14312
 
I think the oxy killed the roll. I took 250 mg of molly once waited about and 1hr and then did some dilaudid (hydromorphone, which is supposed to be slightly stronger then oxycodone) with some friends. Right as I was starting to peak, i started sniffing the dilaudid (we split 64mg between 3 people over about 4-5hrs sniffing small lines every 15mins or so) after the first 2 lines, my roll began to subside and the dopey opiate feeling started to take over, after about 3 hrs after taking the molly when i would normally be rolling pretty good, there was nothin :( nothin but the straight opiate high.
If u like your E, and you like your opiates, i would suggest keeping them COMPLETELY separate. I would only imagine if you were to reverse what i did and take the opiate first wait awhile the do some E, it would be the same effect, the opiate will cancel out the MDMA...just my personal experience on the matter
 
I was an opiate addict at one point in my life. I did hydrocodone. I was rolling once a month at the time, too. I would always skip taking the hydros about 8 hours before rolling so I could have a better roll. It still dulled it, but not as much as taking it close to the roll. I would wait til come down to pop another. Thats when you wanna take the opiate, after the roll experience. Holy crap I am glad those days are over, for the record. It was always weird how my eyes didnt dialate much when I used to roll during the hydro times. But yeah I would have to go thru minor withdrawals before an MDMA trip so it wouldnt be a waste of MDMA.
 
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