dannyweed85
Greenlighter
Hey guys, had a very strange and difficult experience a few days ago and just reaching out to see if anyone has experienced anything remotely similar or perhaps has some wise words. I'll try and keep it as brief as possible.
The first instance of anything like this happening to me was about 4 weeks ago when I combine 20mg of 2cb with 2 tabs of acid. I have taken 2cb before with pretty much zero body load and generally don't suffer nausea or uncomfortable feelings from most chemicals. However this time was very different. The first thing I notice was that I was coming up very intensely on the 2cb (taken 2 hours after the lsd) This was odd as I don't really get intense come ups but was perfectly manageable and somewhat exciting.
Very soon after that I began pouring sweat and felt the first tinges of what I have experienced on the onset of a panic attack (I'v only ever had one previously) This was slight confusion and feeling very faint - I immediately had an urge to ingest something sugary so perhaps this was a drop in blood sugar levels?
Again this was reasonably manageable, albeit quite disconcerting. I knew that 2cb could carry a body load so I was happy to just wait it out and let the chemical settle down inside me. These feelings soon passed but were replaced by a pretty unpleasant fist size ball of pain / pressure / tension in my chest; chest pain is not cool! This was not nice. After some stretching and deep breathing the pain dulled and slightly shifted position which made me feel a little better. It never went away but with focus I started to try and put it into the back of my mind.
Things began to level out after about 2 hours, the chest pain was still present but manageable whilst lying down. However shortly after the 2 hour mark things began to get weird again. I started to come up all over again, but this time all the body load issues where much stronger. I ran through the same cycle of sweats, confusion, faintness and general pre panic attack feelings - this fucking sucked and the chest pain was getting to the point where I was ready to start seriously worrying. Unfortunately things were about to get a whole lot less fun.
All of the above (to some degree) was manageable as I could tell my self it was just a really bad case of heavy body load and possibly my lack of food / sugars in my system. However what started to happen next was - to put it lightly, FUCKING CREEPY
I would have waves of the most bizarre, sinister, disconcerting creepy ass nausea swell up from my stomach / chest area. But this was no ordinary nausea. I am more than happy to purge when need be, it really isn't a big deal. But this wasn't a nausea emanating from my guts. It felt like it was manifesting itself deep within my psyche and was just as much an emotional feeling as it was a feeling of sickness.
This was without doubt the most heartwrenchingly creepy, disconcerting and uncomfortable feeling I have ever experience. It chilled me to my bones every time its swelled up inside me. I really cant put into words just how horrible this was but after about 10 minutes of trying to concentrate on my breath and work thought it I gave up and downed 60 mg of Valium. 30 minutes later I was feeling a lot less horrendous. Chest pain still somewhat present and a general manageable feeling of very slight nausea but generally comfortable.
This whole experience was like nothing I have experienced before and it really put me off dabbling with the 2c-x family. I didn't for one second think this horrendous sinister feeling would have come from the lsd. Iv had all manner of negative feelings, anxiety etc on lsd trips and have ALWAYS been able to work through it one way of another - usually simply by concentration on my breath and calming my mind. However two days ago I tripped on around 400 mg (which is quite a manageable dose for me) and was having an extremely wonderful time until right out of nowhere the creepy; sinister; overwhelming and horrendous feeling I mention before started. This sent me into a crazy panic as it really took me by surprise.
I did everything in my power to stop / get rid of it.; meditating, having a hot bath, trying to read, even some yoga as a way to stop my mind (although I really don't feel it emanates from the mind) focusing on this horrible feeling. Nothing would stop it and the longer it lasted the more overwhelming it was. I know lsd is a very powerful drug. I use it with the utmost respect and good intent. But I really can't believe that this is a "physical hallucination". Its far to real and visceral of a sensation. It really does feel like physical feelings manifesting themselves in my psychedelic state as emotional.
I wish I could put it into words better but its so strange and alien its very difficult to.
I should add that I am in a very comfortable place in my life and don't think this is some kind of manifestation of deep rooted troubles. I am really sadden by this as I fear this could spell the end of my wonderful relationship with lucy. Nothing is worth undergoing that felling again. Sorry for the wall of text. If anyway has anything to share on this matter it would be greatly appreciated.
The first instance of anything like this happening to me was about 4 weeks ago when I combine 20mg of 2cb with 2 tabs of acid. I have taken 2cb before with pretty much zero body load and generally don't suffer nausea or uncomfortable feelings from most chemicals. However this time was very different. The first thing I notice was that I was coming up very intensely on the 2cb (taken 2 hours after the lsd) This was odd as I don't really get intense come ups but was perfectly manageable and somewhat exciting.
Very soon after that I began pouring sweat and felt the first tinges of what I have experienced on the onset of a panic attack (I'v only ever had one previously) This was slight confusion and feeling very faint - I immediately had an urge to ingest something sugary so perhaps this was a drop in blood sugar levels?
Again this was reasonably manageable, albeit quite disconcerting. I knew that 2cb could carry a body load so I was happy to just wait it out and let the chemical settle down inside me. These feelings soon passed but were replaced by a pretty unpleasant fist size ball of pain / pressure / tension in my chest; chest pain is not cool! This was not nice. After some stretching and deep breathing the pain dulled and slightly shifted position which made me feel a little better. It never went away but with focus I started to try and put it into the back of my mind.
Things began to level out after about 2 hours, the chest pain was still present but manageable whilst lying down. However shortly after the 2 hour mark things began to get weird again. I started to come up all over again, but this time all the body load issues where much stronger. I ran through the same cycle of sweats, confusion, faintness and general pre panic attack feelings - this fucking sucked and the chest pain was getting to the point where I was ready to start seriously worrying. Unfortunately things were about to get a whole lot less fun.
All of the above (to some degree) was manageable as I could tell my self it was just a really bad case of heavy body load and possibly my lack of food / sugars in my system. However what started to happen next was - to put it lightly, FUCKING CREEPY
I would have waves of the most bizarre, sinister, disconcerting creepy ass nausea swell up from my stomach / chest area. But this was no ordinary nausea. I am more than happy to purge when need be, it really isn't a big deal. But this wasn't a nausea emanating from my guts. It felt like it was manifesting itself deep within my psyche and was just as much an emotional feeling as it was a feeling of sickness.
This was without doubt the most heartwrenchingly creepy, disconcerting and uncomfortable feeling I have ever experience. It chilled me to my bones every time its swelled up inside me. I really cant put into words just how horrible this was but after about 10 minutes of trying to concentrate on my breath and work thought it I gave up and downed 60 mg of Valium. 30 minutes later I was feeling a lot less horrendous. Chest pain still somewhat present and a general manageable feeling of very slight nausea but generally comfortable.
This whole experience was like nothing I have experienced before and it really put me off dabbling with the 2c-x family. I didn't for one second think this horrendous sinister feeling would have come from the lsd. Iv had all manner of negative feelings, anxiety etc on lsd trips and have ALWAYS been able to work through it one way of another - usually simply by concentration on my breath and calming my mind. However two days ago I tripped on around 400 mg (which is quite a manageable dose for me) and was having an extremely wonderful time until right out of nowhere the creepy; sinister; overwhelming and horrendous feeling I mention before started. This sent me into a crazy panic as it really took me by surprise.
I did everything in my power to stop / get rid of it.; meditating, having a hot bath, trying to read, even some yoga as a way to stop my mind (although I really don't feel it emanates from the mind) focusing on this horrible feeling. Nothing would stop it and the longer it lasted the more overwhelming it was. I know lsd is a very powerful drug. I use it with the utmost respect and good intent. But I really can't believe that this is a "physical hallucination". Its far to real and visceral of a sensation. It really does feel like physical feelings manifesting themselves in my psychedelic state as emotional.
I wish I could put it into words better but its so strange and alien its very difficult to.
I should add that I am in a very comfortable place in my life and don't think this is some kind of manifestation of deep rooted troubles. I am really sadden by this as I fear this could spell the end of my wonderful relationship with lucy. Nothing is worth undergoing that felling again. Sorry for the wall of text. If anyway has anything to share on this matter it would be greatly appreciated.
