Mystryman
Bluelighter
Hi there all,
First off I want to say hi to all of you that remember me from pillreports and bluelight. I hope all of you are well and in good standing in life. it's been awhile. To the rest of you I like to say thank you for taking the time to read and/or answer this post and wish you the best in life.
Please be patient because this is a long post and in dept but I am seeking answers that I don't have full knowledge on even with all my research over the years I did for both sites.
Thank you in advance for all your help. here goes the discussion.
I was asked a serious health question about taking MDMA with a heart aliment. Please by all means correct me on any information I am wrong or have a misunderstanding on. I want to give this person a very direct serious answer.
I understand that methylenedioxymethamphetamine is in the stimulant family and It belongs to a family of drugs called "entactogens," which literally means "touching within." I also if I recall correctly that when the methylenedioxy is mixed with the methamphetamine, the mixture lessens the speed effect on the body compared to what using straight methamphetamine would normally do. Thus causing the heart to work less harder. Over the years I have seen people I know with slight blood pressure problems use MDxx pills with adulterates in them with little problems. this situation is a bit more complicated..
This person used MDxx products for years up to about 3 years ago. 3 years ago after using very loaded MDxx pills with amphetamine(I know because I used the e-z test and it tested positive for it) they had a very bad reaction when they finished rolling and was speeding all over. please not to be grossed out but I witnessed this. they began to bleed from the nose and throw up blood for 2hrs. they refused to go to the hospital that night. Out of concern I forced them to see a doctor within the week. After a series of tests they found out they had a moderate heart aliment.
The findings are as follows... 3 leaking ventricles of the heart. 2 very slight 1 slight and some thickening of the aorta. They been on medication for 3 years now which includes 50mg of metoprolol(toprol XL) once a day for the blood pressure and 2.5 mg of Amlodipine(Norvasc) once a day for the leaking ventricles.
NOW.... This person is able to do basic exercise like riding a bike and slight running on a treadmill which the doctor recommends. they are not allowed to do any very demanding running or prolonged straining on the heart. This person does however drink energy drinks like Amp or monster Drinks cocacola and coffee with no side effects or problems.
This is where the good part is..They were told that they can get pure powder form MDMA and it is ligit. they can get it within the molly or with out it. And it is pure and by a very trusted source that would not put this person in danger at all because they know of their heart issues. the person with the heart aliment is weary to do it but wants to. since the person with the heart ailment has recently within the past 2 months done PCP, Weed, and Percocet (not mixed together,separate) with no heart problems as long as they take the heart medicine. I know that the 3 drugs I mentioned, PCP, Weed, and Percocet, do cause some raise in heart rates in respect to them mentioned. they also took beyond threshold doses of all 3 mentioned. In other words got trashed.
This person remembered my work with both sites pillreports and bluelight and came to me asking me with I thought of them taking the MDMA. they told me they know they could never take any MDxx pills or any speed products, but what about pure MDMA. I asked why? They said someone told them that the pure MDMA with their heart medicine would be fine to take because it is in the pure form. They also said to me "I know for sure it's pure or I wouldn't of even asked you"
My advice to them was"...remember MDMA is a stimulant still meaning speed ..HI!!... I think I recall but I'm not 100% sure that the MDMA mixture is easier on the heart in it's pure form. I'll check for you if you realy want me too". I advised them to really think hard, IMO I wouldn't risk it but if you are consitering it 1) I'll ask for the proper information for you 2)maybe you should ask your doctor or a qualified health professional 3)If you really want to ignore all of this take it in very little doses explaining to get a scale and mesure the powder in a 30mg dose to see how your heart reacts to it..citing you'll not feel any high but feel how your heart starts changing in beating. I told them I know 100mg dose is a common threshhold dose. DO NOT TAKE THAT MUCH AT ONCE!!! slowly work up there still telling them I really don't think it's a good idea to take it at all.
Now..Am I correct to tell them no? or do any of you know and/or can post facts and/or link citing pros and cons to safely or not safely do this?
Please let the replies come on in!!! thank you so much.
On another note for you guys that remember why I left...the underground music dj/producer venture took off and I'm in full tilt...anyone feel free to PM me for my dj name and for any info.
To the moderators..please remove the last line if it is against site rules ty
-mm
First off I want to say hi to all of you that remember me from pillreports and bluelight. I hope all of you are well and in good standing in life. it's been awhile. To the rest of you I like to say thank you for taking the time to read and/or answer this post and wish you the best in life.
Please be patient because this is a long post and in dept but I am seeking answers that I don't have full knowledge on even with all my research over the years I did for both sites.
Thank you in advance for all your help. here goes the discussion.
I was asked a serious health question about taking MDMA with a heart aliment. Please by all means correct me on any information I am wrong or have a misunderstanding on. I want to give this person a very direct serious answer.
I understand that methylenedioxymethamphetamine is in the stimulant family and It belongs to a family of drugs called "entactogens," which literally means "touching within." I also if I recall correctly that when the methylenedioxy is mixed with the methamphetamine, the mixture lessens the speed effect on the body compared to what using straight methamphetamine would normally do. Thus causing the heart to work less harder. Over the years I have seen people I know with slight blood pressure problems use MDxx pills with adulterates in them with little problems. this situation is a bit more complicated..
This person used MDxx products for years up to about 3 years ago. 3 years ago after using very loaded MDxx pills with amphetamine(I know because I used the e-z test and it tested positive for it) they had a very bad reaction when they finished rolling and was speeding all over. please not to be grossed out but I witnessed this. they began to bleed from the nose and throw up blood for 2hrs. they refused to go to the hospital that night. Out of concern I forced them to see a doctor within the week. After a series of tests they found out they had a moderate heart aliment.
The findings are as follows... 3 leaking ventricles of the heart. 2 very slight 1 slight and some thickening of the aorta. They been on medication for 3 years now which includes 50mg of metoprolol(toprol XL) once a day for the blood pressure and 2.5 mg of Amlodipine(Norvasc) once a day for the leaking ventricles.
NOW.... This person is able to do basic exercise like riding a bike and slight running on a treadmill which the doctor recommends. they are not allowed to do any very demanding running or prolonged straining on the heart. This person does however drink energy drinks like Amp or monster Drinks cocacola and coffee with no side effects or problems.
This is where the good part is..They were told that they can get pure powder form MDMA and it is ligit. they can get it within the molly or with out it. And it is pure and by a very trusted source that would not put this person in danger at all because they know of their heart issues. the person with the heart aliment is weary to do it but wants to. since the person with the heart ailment has recently within the past 2 months done PCP, Weed, and Percocet (not mixed together,separate) with no heart problems as long as they take the heart medicine. I know that the 3 drugs I mentioned, PCP, Weed, and Percocet, do cause some raise in heart rates in respect to them mentioned. they also took beyond threshold doses of all 3 mentioned. In other words got trashed.
This person remembered my work with both sites pillreports and bluelight and came to me asking me with I thought of them taking the MDMA. they told me they know they could never take any MDxx pills or any speed products, but what about pure MDMA. I asked why? They said someone told them that the pure MDMA with their heart medicine would be fine to take because it is in the pure form. They also said to me "I know for sure it's pure or I wouldn't of even asked you"
My advice to them was"...remember MDMA is a stimulant still meaning speed ..HI!!... I think I recall but I'm not 100% sure that the MDMA mixture is easier on the heart in it's pure form. I'll check for you if you realy want me too". I advised them to really think hard, IMO I wouldn't risk it but if you are consitering it 1) I'll ask for the proper information for you 2)maybe you should ask your doctor or a qualified health professional 3)If you really want to ignore all of this take it in very little doses explaining to get a scale and mesure the powder in a 30mg dose to see how your heart reacts to it..citing you'll not feel any high but feel how your heart starts changing in beating. I told them I know 100mg dose is a common threshhold dose. DO NOT TAKE THAT MUCH AT ONCE!!! slowly work up there still telling them I really don't think it's a good idea to take it at all.
Now..Am I correct to tell them no? or do any of you know and/or can post facts and/or link citing pros and cons to safely or not safely do this?
Please let the replies come on in!!! thank you so much.
On another note for you guys that remember why I left...the underground music dj/producer venture took off and I'm in full tilt...anyone feel free to PM me for my dj name and for any info.
To the moderators..please remove the last line if it is against site rules ty
-mm