Warp Renegade
Bluelighter
For people experienced with the use of Salvia Divinorum, I assume that some people must have noticed the varying effectws gained from differing sources/suppliers?
I don't mean 'bunk' Salvia, rather experiences differing in intensity/quality.
I usually buy from the same supplier so that I have a reasonable amount of stability in the quality of product but on occasion I have bought from different suppliers.
One main time I bought some 20x extract from a new supplier (I know some people don't see the point in 'wasting' money on extract but for simplicity thats usually what I buy) and I got through 1 gram in a single night.
From the first bowl full I had a slow ride up as opposed to the usual sledge hammer to the face that I normally get. After the slow rise to the peak, I was feeling the usual effects of Salvia although was still very much 'in the room' and under control of what was happening. I decided to hit another bowl but still didn't seem to reach the place that I usually end up. In fact, this was a rather pleasant, sociable and giggly feeling. I was able to interact with other people in the room which normally would be well off the cards.
The feeling lasted a lot longer too, with the main peak lasting about 20-30 minutes and residing sociability and good humour lasting 1-1.5 hours.
A few hours later I re-tried the experience and kept smoking until the gram was gone. I never raised above the first experience.
While in all, the experience was quite pleasant and still in many ways similar to a 'normal' Salvia trip, it wasn't what I was hoping for or even expecting.
But from my usual supplier, I can buy 5x Extract and a gram will last me for 7 or 8 good strong Salvia experiences where I cannot interact with people in the room and struggle to interact with my own conciousness! I go to amazingly exotic places, see and experience incredible things, sometimes having religious experiences which I thouroughly enjoy (even though I am a 'devout' atheist). Almost every time bordering on being scary.
Usually, I have to fight my sub-conciousness which screams at me not to smoke Salvia, but the experience usually pays for itself in either enlightenment or even just amusing trip stories. Rather like when you are in the line waiting to go on a new rollercoaster. You know it's safe and that you'll enjoy yourself but there is still a part of you begging you not to go through with it. But with the newer supplier I believe that I could easily smoke it in many situations, social and spiritual without this restraint (although I still prefer my original supplier's product).
Why can the Salvia Experience vary so much depending on supplier? Both products came in very professional looking packaging rather than a plain baggie and from past experiences, I'm pretty familiar to how Salvia feels too, so I'm pretty sure I wasn't ripped off (or given a sub-par home-made preparation).
Maybe the "20x Extract" wasn't really 20x or could have been made from an inferior starting product or poor extraction process but would that explain the smooth onset and long duration in comparison to an extremely rapid onset and relativly short duration rather than simply being less intese?
N.B. This is not a Drug ID question, I would be interested in any info anyone has on the actions on Salvinorin A on the CNS, and maybe how different quantities of active compunds in the product may affect the users experience.
Thank you.
I don't mean 'bunk' Salvia, rather experiences differing in intensity/quality.
I usually buy from the same supplier so that I have a reasonable amount of stability in the quality of product but on occasion I have bought from different suppliers.
One main time I bought some 20x extract from a new supplier (I know some people don't see the point in 'wasting' money on extract but for simplicity thats usually what I buy) and I got through 1 gram in a single night.
From the first bowl full I had a slow ride up as opposed to the usual sledge hammer to the face that I normally get. After the slow rise to the peak, I was feeling the usual effects of Salvia although was still very much 'in the room' and under control of what was happening. I decided to hit another bowl but still didn't seem to reach the place that I usually end up. In fact, this was a rather pleasant, sociable and giggly feeling. I was able to interact with other people in the room which normally would be well off the cards.
The feeling lasted a lot longer too, with the main peak lasting about 20-30 minutes and residing sociability and good humour lasting 1-1.5 hours.
A few hours later I re-tried the experience and kept smoking until the gram was gone. I never raised above the first experience.
While in all, the experience was quite pleasant and still in many ways similar to a 'normal' Salvia trip, it wasn't what I was hoping for or even expecting.
But from my usual supplier, I can buy 5x Extract and a gram will last me for 7 or 8 good strong Salvia experiences where I cannot interact with people in the room and struggle to interact with my own conciousness! I go to amazingly exotic places, see and experience incredible things, sometimes having religious experiences which I thouroughly enjoy (even though I am a 'devout' atheist). Almost every time bordering on being scary.
Usually, I have to fight my sub-conciousness which screams at me not to smoke Salvia, but the experience usually pays for itself in either enlightenment or even just amusing trip stories. Rather like when you are in the line waiting to go on a new rollercoaster. You know it's safe and that you'll enjoy yourself but there is still a part of you begging you not to go through with it. But with the newer supplier I believe that I could easily smoke it in many situations, social and spiritual without this restraint (although I still prefer my original supplier's product).
Why can the Salvia Experience vary so much depending on supplier? Both products came in very professional looking packaging rather than a plain baggie and from past experiences, I'm pretty familiar to how Salvia feels too, so I'm pretty sure I wasn't ripped off (or given a sub-par home-made preparation).
Maybe the "20x Extract" wasn't really 20x or could have been made from an inferior starting product or poor extraction process but would that explain the smooth onset and long duration in comparison to an extremely rapid onset and relativly short duration rather than simply being less intese?
N.B. This is not a Drug ID question, I would be interested in any info anyone has on the actions on Salvinorin A on the CNS, and maybe how different quantities of active compunds in the product may affect the users experience.
Thank you.
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