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Various ethnobotanicals

Voxide

Voxide

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I was hoping to find some mild substances that wouldn't get you completely fucked out of your mind. That's one thing I've noticed with plants. Either they don't do jack shit, or they fuck you up terribly (Salvia, Weed, Datura, Shrooms)

If anyone has experience with Kanna, Wild dagga, Intoxicating Mint, or Opium Lettuce, please enlighten me. I currently have a big interest in them, but I'm not gonna go out of my way to order them off the internet if the effect is mild, or there isn't any at all.
 
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Kanna- felt like a mild mild mild benzo dose, maybe a slight fuzzy feeling but had to look for

Kava-great benzo substitute, feels great at higher doses

Kratom-the best of the best besides herb as far as natural.....feels like a low dose hydrocodone
Opium Lettuce is a complete waste of money...they sent it free and it did nothing
 
theotherside26 said:
Kanna- felt like a mild mild mild benzo dose, maybe a slight fuzzy feeling but had to look for

Kava-great benzo substitute, feels great at higher doses

Kratom-the best of the best besides herb as far as natural.....feels like a low dose hydrocodone
Opium Lettuce is a complete waste of money...they sent it free and it did nothing
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Thanks for the info. A setup like this is exactly what I'm looking for. :)

Basically, I want this to be the end all be all thread of what is bullshit, and what isn't. Dosages, and preparations would be awesome as well. Hoping this thread can stay as active as possible. I really don't want to get my hopes up and waste money. So far, I've established that Kava and Kratom are most definitely psychoactive. Then, there's the questionable ones like Blue Lotus and Wild Dagga. Thanks for the info. By the way, LSA and DMT containing plants don't have to be mentioned. It's obvious they have potential when used properly.
 
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It all depends on what you are getting....I have taken kratom(bali) that made me feel like I took 30mg's of oxy(no bullshit) and had some that felt like I needed to vomit. Kanna is a weird one because some don't like the extracts but I feel like the 15x works...you have to "look" for the effects if you know what I mean.

One thing.....don't ever, ever, ever buy The sun opener(sinuichi)sp?. Made me and Xor feel like we were dying.
 
i have experience with wild dagga. i would say it is definitely psychoactive but i did not find the effects euphoric or enjoyable.
 
theotherside26 said:
It all depends on what you are getting....I have taken kratom(bali) that made me feel like I took 30mg's of oxy(no bullshit) and had some that felt like I needed to vomit. Kanna is a weird one because some don't like the extracts but I feel like the 15x works...you have to "look" for the effects if you know what I mean.

One thing.....don't ever, ever, ever buy The sun opener(sinuichi)sp?. Made me and Xor feel like we were dying.
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Isn't that one supposed to cause auditory hallucinations? Not a thing I've read has confirmed this. Also heard that the smoke from it is terribly harsh.
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i have experience with wild dagga. i would say it is definitely psychoactive but i did not find the effects euphoric or enjoyable.
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Care to elaborate? Heard it's a sedative but quite a few trip reports mention stimulant properties.
 
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Voxide said:
Thanks for the info. A setup like this is exactly what I'm looking for. :)

Basically, I want this to be the end all be all thread of what is bullshit, and what isn't. Dosages, preparations, and source would be awesome as well. Hoping this thread can stay as active as possible. I really don't want to get my hopes up and waste money. So far, I've established that Kava and Kratom are most definitely psychoactive. Then, there's the questionable ones like Blue Lotus and Wild Dagga. Thanks for the info. By the way, LSA and DMT containing plants don't have to be mentioned. It's obvious they have potential when used properly.
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If you use the search engine, you will find discussion on lots of the substances you mentioned. However a thread containing information on all of them could be useful.

No sources though, you should remove that query.
 
Mr Blonde said:
If you use the search engine, you will find discussion on lots of the substances you mentioned. However a thread containing information on all of them could be useful.

No sources though, you should remove that query.
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For the most part, bluelighters give mostly positive reports with Kratom. Most usually just say blue lotus has a mild effect, if any.
 
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Blue lotus was put in wine in ancient times.....let it soak into the wine...on its own its worthless. It has to be fresh. Wild Dagga 25x was active but felt like the comedown of weed minus the euphoria or silly giggles. The Super Mario Bros. mushrooms were ok, felt like I was about to trip( watery mouth, weird stomach feeling ) and then I just got a little flu like visuals....meaning not my cup of tea!
 
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Amanitas, as far as I know are also a known psychoactive. I don't know why that video showed otherwise though. I expected it to have very powerful effects despite being legal.
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i wanted to elaborate but i cant think of a good way to describe the effects. its just a strange feeling.
 
Hmmm out of the things I've tried...

Kratom - excellent
Kava - good
Kanna - okay
Hawaiian Baby Rosewood - excellent
Blue Lotus - okay
Salvia (sublingual) - okay

OP you didn't really mention cacti? Some available in Canada.

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Calea zacatechichi - weak
 
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Peyote is legal in Canada... but not mescaline. I lol'd.
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Hmmm I've asked at the shops and heard all these three for sale Cuzco, Peruvian Torch & San Pedro. Maybe mescaline is illegal but not in a plant?
edit: plus fly agaric as we were saying

edit2: whoops sorry misread your post. Thought you said peyote & mescaline were illegal. So basically you can get your mescaline in your cacti you just <i>can't</i> take it out or plan on ingesting it.
 
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This really isn't appropriate for OD... we aren't here to help you choose your next high and after reading every post, I see ZERO harm reduction value.

There are LOTS of threads (including one huge one) on people rating legal/herbal/otc highs so search around. In the meantime....



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