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vaporizer discussion continued.....

I've consistenly seen the temps 320f/70%efficiency and 392f/90%efficiency.

Don't use trash bags. I would think you'd be better off smoking the weed than breathing in plastic. Yes, Reynolds work well. I find the Mellitz bags get little holes in them after a short period of time. A little too brittle.

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for someone who is accostumed to smoke weed...is the different high of a vaporizer a pro or contra?
 
Ganga_man wants to know: "for someone who is accostumed to smoke weed...is the different high of a vaporizer a pro or contra?"

1) Every person who vaporizes, used to smoke;
2) Then, one day, most of these people stopped smoking (and only vap't).

So, for 80% of the vap'ers, it must be a strong PRO.

How many people would continue to vap, if they didn't like it? (Not too many.)
 
IMO the vape high sucks. I never get high enough off of it. I kinda have the same thing with pipes or bongs, but the vape high is even more incomplete, it lacks something. I like joints, cancerous too please, with tobacco and stuff..
 
I've recently noticed that I definitely am unable to conserve weed as much with my volcano than I could from my vaporbrothers.

It doesn't seem like I'm saving all that much weed with the volcano.
 
Hmm...

In my opinion the vaporizer high is excellent. Smoking cannabis adds an edge to it, that sort of paranoid feeling, even if it's really faint. It also makes you more stoned (as opposed to high). A vaporizer high is very light but pleasurable in the body, and provides a much more "up" and psychedelic high. It also, for me, totally removes the paranoia element. It also drastically reduces the side effects that come from frequent use. With my vaporizer, I can smoke and still feel really sharp mentally and energized.

Sometimes I still smoke a bowl or joint, and it's a nice treat, but for regular consumption, I've grown to prefer the vaporizer. And it definitely helps that you can conserve your supply, and then make cannabutter out of the vaporized material (which still has some percentage of cannabinoids remaining).
 
Yeah, I'd use my vaporizer every day if I didn't live in a dorm room, it's pretty sketchy to smoke much of anything here. Plus, I really like taking a walk and trying to find a place to smoke. It adds an exciting element when the cops drive by =) happened this morning three times, who would've imagined there would be so many cops on a college campus at 5 am on a thursday morning??
 
Xorkoth said:
Hmm...

In my opinion the vaporizer high is excellent. Smoking cannabis adds an edge to it, that sort of paranoid feeling, even if it's really faint. It also makes you more stoned (as opposed to high). A vaporizer high is very light but pleasurable in the body, and provides a much more "up" and psychedelic high. It also, for me, totally removes the paranoia element. It also drastically reduces the side effects that come from frequent use. With my vaporizer, I can smoke and still feel really sharp mentally and energized.

I agree with this mostly. All I ever use is a bag vape and although the paranoia still exists depending on the strain I'm vaping the high is excellent. I love sucking in a humongous bag as fast as I can and then staying sober for about two minutes before it grabs me by the balls and I just keep getting higher until I hit the peak. The plateau also seems to be far greater... I can get so high I'm TRIPPING which I rarely accomplished smoking... and it also feels a lot less grimey than smoking yourself stupid. I could never smoke ten bongs in a row my lungs would feel like crap after... I find it maximizes the potential and gives the user the truest high allowing a connoisseur of the herb to truly appreciate the difference between strains.
 
Peppermint Fear said:
Yeah, I'd use my vaporizer every day if I didn't live in a dorm room, it's pretty sketchy to smoke much of anything here. Plus, I really like taking a walk and trying to find a place to smoke. It adds an exciting element when the cops drive by =) happened this morning three times, who would've imagined there would be so many cops on a college campus at 5 am on a thursday morning??


that's the good thing with a vapo. no smell
 
ganja_man said:
for someone who is accostumed to smoke weed...is the different high of a vaporizer a pro or contra?

Ohh man, myself and every one of my friends agree... if you *really* wanna get rocked, the Vapor Brothers is the way to go!!

Let's talk about onset first:

Smoking, bowl, bong, joint, whatever, you know how right after you hit the shit it kicks in pretty much instantly. You feel your eyes droop and you get mellow right away. This does not happen with a vaporizer!

With the vaporizer we might not feel anything at all until 3 or 4 or 5 good pulls , which trust me is all you'll need. Then you can feel this tingle go up your spine and a halo being placed around your skull.

You might be underwhelmed and think, "that didn't really get me stoned". No, it doesn't really get you stoned. But give it 5 minutes and you will be high as shit.

15 minutes later you might come to your senses and realize over the last hour... oh wait, it was just 15 minutes, hahahahahahahahahaha, ummm.... oh yeah, you were thinking about some crazy shit !!

Now its been 20 minutes since you vaporized it, and there is an energy flowing through your whole body. Focus it whereever you want. Relax and it envelops your body like a radiant blanket.

You have not been this high on weed since.... well, the first time you smoked? No, that just got you really stoned and giggly. That time you ate a crazy strong brownie? Nah, that just turned your legs to jello and gave you some visuals. This is pure energy. This is psychedelic.

*This* is why ganja is a psychedelic!

So to sum it up:

Vaporizing gives a headier high. A philosopher's high indeed!
Vaporizing gives you a stronger more energized body high that almost feels like a bit of the acid body fry.
Vaporizing uses 1/4 as much ganja and you got way higher????? yep
When the high wears off you will not be burnt out.
You can put shitty weed in a vaporizer and still get totally ripped.
The high from a vaporizer gives a much greater degree of Euphoria.

....

The only reason I still ever pack bowls or joints is for the social aspect of it. Plus its easy to keep packin bowls and pass them around. Bowls are more of a relaxing high.

But really after vaporizing as my primary device for almost a year now, I almost cringe at the thought of "wasting" weed by smoking it.

Fortunately my vaporizer uses such little ganja I always have plenty on hand :D
 
They are definitely different highs and I like them each at different times... right now I'm still a relatively new smoker so I enjoy the long walks to a secret spot, but as soon as that gets old you better believe I'll be vaporizing from then on!

I agree that the vaporizer is a clear, head high... I like the "philosopher's high" remark! And it's definitely worth noting that when the high stops, you don't crash and burn like you did when you smoked, you're just a bit worn out and mostly sad that it's over (but still energetic).

I do like smoking sometimes because it's more of a relaxing high, and it will still knock me out if I want to let it. It also seems to give me those super munchies, compared to vaporization which simply gives me an appetite (I have appetite problems).
 
what do u guys think about the vapir 4.0 or vapir mini? im thinkin about getting one... trying to keep the smell concealed lol
 
nightfun said:
I did have some issues finding bags for it. The manual gives you a number of bags you can find to use. I tried a few but they never worked like the ones supplied with the volcano.

Just a quick note on that... If you go into almost any grociery store and ask for turkey baking bags they should have them. That's the real purpose of those bags. :)
 
I'm puffin' on a mystifire I picked up from the local head shop.

I've only had it for about a week and I'm still trying to get the hang of it, anyone more experianced with this type of vapo have any advice?

Im semi happy with it though 300$ sure hurt a bit though.

fgi
 
feelgoodinc said:
I'm puffin' on a mystifire I picked up from the local head shop.

I've only had it for about a week and I'm still trying to get the hang of it, anyone more experianced with this type of vapo have any advice?

Im semi happy with it though 300$ sure hurt a bit though.

fgi

I actually went into to buy a Mystfire when I got my Volcano, they had been out for like 2 weeks or so. The guy working there just went on and on and on about how far suprior the Volcano was, so I ended up spending 500 instead of 300 (I did get 10% off for student discount, LOL.).

I later smoked one and say they are better than the box vaporizers and vapir's etc, and slightly worse than volcano and/or the vapezilla.
 
40ozTOfreedom said:
I actually went into to buy a Mystfire when I got my Volcano, they had been out for like 2 weeks or so. The guy working there just went on and on and on about how far suprior the Volcano was, so I ended up spending 500 instead of 300 (I did get 10% off for student discount, LOL.).

I later smoked one and say they are better than the box vaporizers and vapir's etc, and slightly worse than volcano and/or the vapezilla.

Ah, well tonight I think I've finally got it, I'm fucking ripped. I didnt happen to have the 430$ the guy in the shop by me wanted :\.

fgi
 
blue)dolphin said:
So to sum it up:

Vaporizing gives a headier high. A philosopher's high indeed!
Vaporizing gives you a stronger more energized body high that almost feels like a bit of the acid body fry.
Vaporizing uses 1/4 as much ganja and you got way higher????? yep
When the high wears off you will not be burnt out.
You can put shitty weed in a vaporizer and still get totally ripped.
The high from a vaporizer gives a much greater degree of Euphoria.

....

The only reason I still ever pack bowls or joints is for the social aspect of it.



perfect summary and i'm the same when it comes to social occasions....but i disagree with shitty weed in a vape, i can't TAKE the taste of shitty pot in a vape (like commericial shit, beaster, etc). if i have nothing else to use i just smoke that stuff in a bowl, can't stand vaping it
 
nizziht backwards said:
what do u guys think about the vapir 4.0 or vapir mini? im thinkin about getting one... trying to keep the smell concealed lol


smell should be concealed really with any vape you buy, just smells like burnt popcorn, but very subtle and faint and goes away quickly
 
I apologize if it was all ready mentioned in the thread, but the Volcano is AMAZING!

It gets you FUCKED!
 
Why does it seem that when adding a kief to the bud your vaporizing that the temp can be much lower. I have noticed that with the volcano I can get a nice dense bag on the 5 setting opposed to usually having to place it on 7 to get a bag of that density.
 
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