valium=worthless

[snowblowjoe]

ive done close to every benzo there is in the book available in the usa. within reason. why do so many ppl like diazepam? that shit is utterly worthless. i can chew 10 of those up and feel nothing whatsoever. yet i constantly read reports about ppl saying its the best benzo and how its euphoric. kpins use to be my fav, now they are almost just as worthless but still better than diazepam. xanax is good, roofies gave me euphoria, benzos in general are worthless to me now except to potentiate other drugs and help- me get to sleep or take the edge off a speed binge.

i need to be upgraded to barbitutates. anyone have any experience with barbs? what are the best ones? we aren't here to help you fake out a doc. any info ius appreciated thanx

 

[brutus]

Are you addicted to them?

 

[qwe]

go to africa for the barbs 8(

 

[phr]

Sounds like you've developed some tolerance.

I dislike benzo's, but if I had to use one, it'd be Valium.

 

[MethaContin]

I wouldnt say valium is worthless its JUST PARTICURLARLY WEAK meaning 40mgs (4 10mg Diazepam tablets ) = ONE 2mg Xanax bar. So that may be why you equate it to be weak, I have AN OUT OF SIGHT BENZO TOLERANCE and Valiums still keep me happy

 

[collegekid]

It is far from worthless.

 

[SKL]

i need to be upgraded to barbitutates. anyone have any experience with barbs? what are the best ones? part of quote removed. any info ius appreciated thanx

Don't.

Anyone remember a Peter McDermott quote with something to the effect of "if heroin withdrawal is cold turkey, barbiturate withdrawal is cold raven?"

And he went on to describe barbiturate addicts as some of the most degenerate addicts he ever dealt with?

It's true.

I don't mean to speak in absolutes or be patronizing or offensive but in terms of harm reduction, barbiturates are not a good idea over benzo's, even very high doses of benzo's.

 

[TDogUSA]

Ive never, not once gotten any euphoria or even a "decent" high from any benzo by itself, and I have tried and abuse almost all of them.

 

[Slay]

^^ obviously something wrong with you
:D

 

[MethaContin]

^^ obviously something wrong with you
:D

AGREED!!!!

 

[center]

To OP:
Different folks, different strokes.

I stroke valium.
u?

 

[MethaContin]

If I had to say i wouldnt use any benzo for 'feeling good' it would be like Temazepam or something.........

 

[melange]

valium is my fav

 

[enoughorangejuice?]

40mg of valium feels A LOT stronger than 2mg of xanax.

 

[MethaContin]

40mg of valium feels A LOT stronger than 2mg of xanax.

For me it feels different , Kinda more euphoric, But I take xanax EVERYDAY and take valium maybe a few times every couple of months when I come aacross some (Like I just ordered # #60 0.5 Alprazolam, #30 10mg Diazepam ajnd #20 2.5 mg Lorazepam, i sent her $90 for them) :D

 

[adder]

It's not worthless but it's one of the last benzodiazepines I would seek after along with other weak and 'expressionless' demethylated or oxidized derivatives (temazepam, oxazepam).

 

[Anasrequiem]

Its strange that this is true for other people, I have tried taking different amounts of valium, and it never effects me the same as xanax which effects me greatly. I guess it just depends on your body chemistry...
But for me, xanax will knock me out if I take the right amount, and Lorazepam is like the one I take when I just want a mild effect, and playing with the amounts seems to work the best because I have weird tolerances for some reason

 

[burn out]

40mg of valium feels A LOT stronger than 2mg of xanax.

same for me. i remember the first time i ever took valium. it was back when i used to take 2-4 mg of xanax to get messed up. i looked at some benzo charts and decided to try 40 mg of valium. it hit me like a ton of bricks, way harder than xanax has ever hit at any dose and i passed out and woke up 16 hours later still feeling significant affects.

although valium is the benzo which has given me the best highs, there are some things i don't like about it which is why xanax is my benzo of choice but i am tempted to order some valium soon.

 

[RANDOMNAME1]

you do know barbs were originally synthesized from cow shit i believe, ill look up and give ya a source.
urea is piss right? well here it is
Barbituric acid or malonylurea or 4-hydroxyuracyl is an organic compound based on a pyrimidine heterocyclic skeleton. It is an odorless powder soluble in hot water. Barbituric acid is the parent compound of a large class of barbiturates that have central nervous system depressant properties although barbituric acid itself is not pharmacologically active. The compound was discovered by the German chemist Adolf von Baeyer in 1864 by combining urea and malonic acid in a condensation reaction. Malonic acid has since been replaced by diethyl malonate.

 

['medicine cabinet']

yea valium is great, its old as hell but it still is the most enjoyable benzo imo. benzos are weird, i dont think of them as being all that recreational, but some people seem to enjoy them immensely.

however when used as rx'd i think they are great. ever since kicking dope and going on suboxone i still get panic attacks and am anxious a lot of the time. ive found low dose clonazepam or lorazepam works the best to almost kill the anxiety 100% and it feels great, but its not like high doses when you start to experience stronger side effects like dizziness impaired motor function and amnesia.

valiumn works pretty well too but its more cloudy for me, id take valium when i wanted a total body relaxation. it has great muscle relaxing action which makes it great when you are going through WD. so valium being worthless, nah, i woudlnt say so...its a staple of the paramedics as well, among the drugs in an ambulance like morphine and narcan, valium is always in there.