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Valium or Clonazepam for Suboxone W/D?

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Herbal~Jah

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I haven't started my detox yet but, What do you guys think I should use for my Suboxone detox? I already have xanax for sleep/night-time use. But for the daytime use would Clonazepam or Diazepam be better for daytime use while going through Sub detox?

P.S. - I also have Tramadol and Restoril for my detox.. Obviously I've been stockpiling a detox stash to get off this damn Sub. So what do you guys think would work better for the daytime sub detox med? Klonopin or Valium? :?

Thank you for you suggestions...

Edit: 5/06/2013
"Well I got the k-pins for the day and the alps for night... I am about to jump of sub 0.5mg-1mg a day. I hope i can do this!! CHARGE!!!!!!!"
 
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I used both with xanax. Valium hits you quicker as clonazepam takes about 3 hours to take full effect. That bupes a hard one to beat... If you smoke weed while on the combo you get some good sleep and just chill with RLS
 
Either Valium or Klonopin will work just as well, unless you already know that you prefer one over the other. It really doesn't matter. Just try not to mix different types of benzos while they are still active.
 
Since you have alprazolam, which has a similar onset to diazepam, I would use the clonazepam during the day. It stays active for quite a long time making it more suitable for controlling the incessant anxiety that opioid withdrawal produces.

The tramadol can be effective at controlling the depression and lethargy, since it's a powerful SRA and NRI, especially if you have the extended release formulation. Don't expect much relief from physical withdrawal symptoms as it is a weak opioid. It also has withdrawal symptoms of it's own, so don't depute your addiction to tramadol expecting it to be easy. Stay on it for as short as possible.
 
I am also worried about the RLS (Restless Leg Syndrome) at night, and doesn't Valium have better muscle relaxing properties then Klonopin? I can't get both (valium, kpins), i have to choose either Valium or Klonopin for the daytime detox med (for sub detox). I got the xanax for night as it obviously puts you out quicker and is the best benzo for sleep. Is there anyone that have detoxed off subs and can give me any info on what its going to be like and what can help me through it?

So far my Sub detox stash is/will be:
Meds
Alprazolam - for night
Tramadol - help ease the depression/lethargy for 1st couple weeks
Klonopin or Valium (?? Can't have both, gotta choose one or the other) - for daytime
Supplements:
Magnesium - As I have heard it helps with RLS and muscle cramps/insomnia/depression
Vitamin D-3 - The "Sunshine vitamin" as I won't be getting much sunlight during detox
Fish Oil - (Omega 3's)
L-Theanine (for its stress relieving properties)


Again anyone with any suggestions or someone thats been through suboxone detox that can tell me how long and what helps to get through it would be great... I am really really scared about this detox but its time to get off, I've been on it for about 3 years and that's why I am building such a detox stash.

Thanks you guys are a great help,
J
 
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I would go with the Valium - there aren't massive differences between the two but Valium should help with the RLS more. Good luck!
 
Ok I guess I am going to go with the Valium.. I will also be sure to get some Folic Acid and Vitamin B1 supplements. Thanks for your responses to those who responded. But still if any of you out there have been through Suboxone detox and can give any more advice from what helps to how long it last physical and mental (which I've heard the mental or PAWS can last along time like 6months to a year! which scared the shit outta me)...

Thanks
-Jay
 
Well I got the k-pins for the day and the alps for night... I am about to jump of sub 0.5mg-1mg a day. I hope i can do this!! CHARGE!!!!!!!
 
i was in mild wds for like 2 months man so please tread lightly now im a father fucking sleeping pill addict! and on sub again scary shit i wish i woulda knew better 8(
 
I too am detoxing from subs. My idea is to rapidly drop my dose in half until it gets unbearable. I went from 8 down to 4 in a week wasn't hard and am currently working on 4 to 2 with little issues. I feel a bit off at night but so far no issues with sleeping.

I wish I was lucky like you and had something to supplement the off feeling. My idea is because I am looking forward to the sickness and the idea of breaking the shackles I can do this without issue. I think it's all in your head and if your ready you can handle it because there is no reason you can't.

If your afraid of it you may not be ready. I have only been on 8mg a day for 7 months but with no insurance the pills are very expensive and so are the clinic visits. My motivation is if I'm going to achieve the success I am destined to I have to go all or nothing. I gave shooting dope my all its time to devote that to my life.

Best of luck to you and remember you are no ones slave no compound no doctor no one. You have the power to do anything and because of that this will be easier then it was for anyone else.
 
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