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Benzos Valium, Kpin and Kratom

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*I* took 2 mg of valium yesterday around 12 pm. Today *I* took .5 mg of Kpin. *I* am thinking of taking a lower dose of 3mg thai powder Kratom. Does anyone one see any issues with this combination and spacing. They are all lower doses. Thanks for any responses!
 
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I would always reccomend that you should NEVER mix your CNS depressants, as you could stop breathing. But it is usually ok in very low doses.
 
Sorry. Thanks for the replies.

Does anyone actually have experience with it to share?
 
Benzos tend to overpower the subtleties of the Kratom opioid high.

A little bit of Valium (2.5mg) might be a nice little icing on top of the Kratom, though, never tried the combo. If you aren't using Kratom every day, and aren't physically dependent on benzos, I would say take the Kratom when you're totally sober, as it's already a pretty subtle drug. Then you can take your benzo of choice 6 hours later, when the Kratom fades away.
 
From experience, I would say that you probably wouldn't feel much of the kratom. It depends on how it affects you though--remember due to half-life, you still have a small amount of diazepam and clonazepam in your system, and from that as your "perceived baseline," the kratom will likely be subtle.
But, heck, if it floors you--you should probably adjust [lower] your kratom dose given your setting.
 
Kratom is most definitely a subtle drug, and this is coming from a 10 month, once-daily user. Granted, I've never dosed over 4 grams (up to 5 on a handful of times), to avoid ruining a perfectly good medicinal substance. I didn't realize how subtle the effects were until I took hydrocodone again. Real opiates, such as hydro, give "true" euphoria, it's hard to explain. Real opiates (derived from p. somniferum) blast you away with in-your-face euphoria, which can be chased as far as your wallet will allow. Kratom is not that substance, it has more of a background high, gently adding stimulation and positivity to your day.

1 gram is only equivalent to about 3.75mg hydrocodone, and you can only dose up to about 8 grams before you hit the Kratom nausea ceiling.

8g of Kratom ~= 30mg hydrocodone, which is quite weak for anyone with any type of opiate tolerance. I have a mild opioid tolerance, and only got a good opioid high the first few times of using daily.
 
Thanks for the info. Update: I went ahead and took the 2.5 mgs of Kratom. I felt the stimulant aspect for a bit but then just became tired. No euphoria. Hung out with some friends and was just not in the mood to socialize. I think I will no longer combine the two.
 
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