Benzos Valium for hangovers

[magicegg]

Usually I can get through a hangover with just water, greasy food and maybe a couple of painkillers, but recently I've been getting absolutely crippling hangovers. I seem to get a slight hangover even when I haven't even drank very much or been drunk, so after a night of heavy drinking, I feel pretty fucking terrible. So much so that this has made me start to reconsider whether it's actually worth getting drunk, and quite often it isn't, but I do every once in a while. I have a small supply of valium for bad comedowns/bad trip situations, and have tried taking valium to help ease a hangover, but I don't think it did that much good for me. However, I think part of my problem is that after a night of heavy drinking I end up waking up very early (5-6am) and am unable to get back to sleep, so obviously I'm then having to deal with a hangover and being sleep deprived!

I remember someone on here saying that if they drink a lot, they take some valium before bed and it totally kills their hangover. Does anyone else have experience of this? And if so, how much is ok to take? I know mixing benzos and alcohol can be dangerous, but then lots of people also do it for fun... I feel like even if it doesn't do much for the hangover, at least being able to sleep a decent amount should help me function a lot better the next day!

Cheers

 

[i against i]

probably not a good idea at all. why do you wake up? because you need to pee? trying drinking lots of water with your alcohol to help reduce the hangover.

 

[magicegg]

I think the waking up early is partly due to dehydration; even if I drink tons of water before bed, or throughout the evening, I still wake up parched. Pontifex, what you're saying about anxiety sounds very plausible. That could explain why I find it difficult/impossible to go back to sleep after waking. It's strange, because this used to happen to me when I was young, when I first started drinking (and drank very infrequently). Then when I went to uni, my alcohol intake increased, and now I'm back to drinking infrequently and it's happening again. So I'm wondering whether the issue could be solved if I stopped being such a boring lightweight...but then, that wouldn't really be very nice for my liver, and I don't have the time or money to drink all the time

I'll try taking valium when I get up, if I'm feeling extra terrible. Thanks for the supplement recommendations as well, I'm going to look into those.

 

[MistaSmokalot]

If you take a valium while your hungover all its going to do is make you feel slow and drowsy WHILE feeling hungover. Not a good combo. BEST HANGOVER CURE: Dilaudid or Oxycodone (if you do opiates) if you don't do opiates then I'd say weed, water and multi vitamins (before bed) are your best bets.

 

[Treefa]

probably not a good idea at all. why do you wake up? because you need to pee? trying drinking lots of water with your alcohol to help reduce the hangover.

Aint you ever drank before mane???
He woke up because a) his mouth was dry as shit B) he had to pee C) he was sweating like a motherfucker when all that alcohol got metabolized man, you go to sleep feeling peachy but wake up feeling shitty..

Now OP if you simply just want to go back to sleep then hell yea take a good 20mg of some val kilmers and you should sleep till noon and your hangover should be gone when you wake up...if not SMOKE WEED its the all natural hangover cure man

Yea im sure opiates would knock a hangover out like Arnold Swatsaniger VS. Barack obama but i'd rather take them when i can enjoy them, when im not hungover

 

[trip407]

^absoluty true. Another approach would be to tke the diazepam WHILE you drink. I will get much much drunk from the same amount of alcohol. With less alcohol i had less of a hangover, and of course its also more fun. The diazepam will last well into the next day anyway. Just dont take heroic doses or you will quickly black and regret the evening! ;-)

 

[harlans]

OP I get the same problem when I drink. I get incredibly terrible hangovers from drinking small amounts (but that has a lot to do with my level of dependency and my body's increasing disability to metabolize alcohol normally - in fact my hangovers got so bad that it reminded me of how terrible i used to feel coming off a 2+ week tweek bender). I also - always - can't sleep past the initial pass-out. Usually 4-6 hrs max. It has nothing to do with dry mouth, needing to pee, etc. My blood pressure goes way up giving me a very uncomfortable inner trembly feeling that I can't ignore or overcome even with weed or more booze. As far as valium, I've never used it for a hangover, but boy does it make detox incredibly bearable - and safe. When I detox my blood pressure skyrockets to super dangerous levels - they almost sent me to the er the last time i checked into detox to make sure i didn't seize or have a stroke. the hospital I was in couldn't accommodate the level of monitoring I needed, but after my first high dose of librium or valium (don't remember that time). And it feels good. I'm always bummed when my valium or librium doses get tapered. So, as of a month ago - no booze for me. Luckily I don't have the same dependence issues with any drugs but booze. I love valium - LOVE IT. more so than any other benzo i've had. Unfortunately my doc won't prescribe it to me (on account of a history of alcohol dependency issues), but for whatever reason he scripts me for temazepam. It's ok, but I'm lucky I don't get the blackout so many people get at 60mg dosage. After this wandering on the topic, my point: considering how insanely helpful valium has been for my serious withdrawls, I would suspect that it would help with a hangover dramatically at the right dosage. I've always started on it with a hangover in the hospital and they dose me on withdrawl severity - hallucinations, dangerously HIGH FUCKING BP. It makes me feel peaceful if nobody bugs me. Those other people in detox can be a real fucking drag - esp the first timers. I don't plan of having to experience detox anymore, but am looking fwd to finding valium come my way (crossing fingers). It totally takes my urge to drink away... away... where i need it to stay.

 

[magicegg]

Aint you ever drank before mane???
He woke up because a) his mouth was dry as shit B) he had to pee C) he was sweating like a motherfucker when all that alcohol got metabolized man, you go to sleep feeling peachy but wake up feeling shitty..

Now OP if you simply just want to go back to sleep then hell yea take a good 20mg of some val kilmers and you should sleep till noon and your hangover should be gone when you wake up...if not SMOKE WEED its the all natural hangover cure man

Yea im sure opiates would knock a hangover out like Arnold Swatsaniger VS. Barack obama but i'd rather take them when i can enjoy them, when im not hungover

Yep, I think that's a good idea actually! At least if it's a weekend and I haven't got any need to get up then I can just put myself to sleep til the afternoon.

Harlans, good luck with your detox. I hope it all goes ok

 

[doppelganga196]

The best hangover cure imho is the following - electrolyte rehydration salts, water, marijuana for an appetite increase, 5 - 20 mg of diazepam & some food. Oh & opiaates can work wonders but i in no way reccommend them.

 

[ErgicMergic]

I won't drink unless I have some Valium for the next day, it's so perfect: a subtle enough benzo to just take care of the hangover without fucking you up again. A bowl of weed used to be my go-to hangover cure before I tried benzos, though.

Valium, weed, a nice breakfast, and hydration and you'll be right as rain again :D

Tbh, hangovers are why I don't drink anymore. I would much rather take a benzo and smoke some weed and not worry about feeling like shit the next morning.

 

[xdimsumx]

i dont get where the nay-sayers are coming from. personally benzos "cure" my hangovers on the spot. I may still feel a little stomach discomfort but its neglect able where i can chill out for the day and be fine. i dont exactly recommend mixing benzos with alcohol because you end up drinking ALOT more alcohol and do ALOT more "stupid" stuff. I'm normally paranoid about my composure so i try to retain self control over everything else, so i havent embarrased myself too bad with this combo. but i do love it when i want to get loose and let myself go a little, i usually take 1mg of xanax, or 20mg diazepam since (.01mg alprazolam = 1mg diazepam). I can still remember the night and I can feel fully relaxed.

 

[Tommyboy]

If you want to use valium for hangovers, it's best to wait until the morning to take it. It is not good to make a habit out of taking it, and if you take it at night you may become dependent on using it for sleep. Also you don't know if you are going to have a bag hangover until it happens, so taking the valium at night may not be necessary since you may not even be going to have a hangover. Just stick to drinking a few glasses of water before bed, and if you wake up with a bad hangover, take the valium then.

^absoluty true. Another approach would be to tke the diazepam WHILE you drink. I will get much much drunk from the same amount of alcohol. With less alcohol i had less of a hangover, and of course its also more fun. The diazepam will last well into the next day anyway. Just dont take heroic doses or you will quickly black and regret the evening! ;-)

Advising someone to mix alcohol with benzos is not smart, especially on a harm reduction forum. Mixing the two is dangerous since it often results in blacking out. The stuff that you do while blacked out is usually more dangerous than the actual combination, unless of course you take another CNS depressant which can lead to respiratory depression which may result in coma or death.

In theory taking a low dose benzo while drinking moderately will allow you to get drunk easier, but in reality it is very hard to control your consumtion of these drugs which is why blackouts are so common with this combination. The plan may be to take 10mg of valium and just have 3 beers, but since they both lower your inhibitons it's easy to think that you are fine to keep drinking, and then you end up drinking way more than planned. This is why the "just don't take heroic doses or you will black out" disclaimer isn't going to stop many people from doing those things.

 

[Psychonauticunt]

Definitely don't dose on the Valium before passing out; wake up, assess the intensity of your hangover, rehydrate, and take the Valium then if you feel like shit. This way you'll be feeling the peak effects of the Valium, instead of lingering effects, when you wake up. Valium is absorbed quickly, so you should experience significant relief from your hangover quite quickly.

Taking a low dose - 5-10mg - in the morning should significantly reduce your hangover symptoms, and be completely safe - benzodiazepines are often given to alcoholics in withdrawal. Low-dose benzos, rehydration/electrolytes and vitamins, cannabis and breakfast will annihilate almost any hangover. You may still feel sedated and tired, so don't make elaborate plans if your hangover is severe, but you will be much more functional and less suicidal.