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valium and alcohol question

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deos68

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just want to say thank you in advance to anyone's opinions on what i am about to ask
i know most of us are not doctor's and i believe it will be my choice if decide to follow anyone's opinions
i will not hold anyone responsible except for myself

i have SAD, panic disorder
long story short i have been dealing with a alcohol problem for about a year but recently i went down from drinking maybe a 6 to 8 beers now down to 2 beers nightly i have been slowly tapering myself and if you can see from the decrease i am confident ill have this under control down to maybe a beer or none daily i might stay where i am maybe take it down to a beer nightly because i still enjoy drinking a beer nightly budlight is my choice of beer lol
the main reason i have been tapering off is because i saw a major decrease in anxiety and panic attack i sure in hell believe excess amount of alcohol daily is what has made my anxiety worse i went from being agoraphobic to being able to leave my house due to decreasing my alcohol intake

i do have a prescription of xanax .5mg i have honestly never take that high of an amount hell i never taken a whole .25mg dose just once while i had a bone marrow biopsy whenever i need to take the edge off i take a .125mg half of a .25mg xanax yes i dont have a tolerance for shit but .125mg works just fine prob is it does not last very long maybe an hr or 2 at best also have never taken a .125mg dose more than once in one day or a .125mg dose more than 3 times a week

i recently went out of the country to visit my grandma and a highly respected MD/ family friend checked me out and gave me a script for 10mg valium and to break it in half since they didnt have 5mg at that time

i know i'm not gonna start at 5mg since i have a zero tolerance to benzo's i was thinking of breaking a 5mg of valium in half to give me 2.5mg or hell break that in half to give me a 1.25mg dose now my question is say i take the valium at 6am can i still drink a beer or 2 in the evening ?? if so how many hours should i wait i am always up around 6am or 7am the latest
not planning taking valium every day

i asked the doctor this and he said he was against saying it was ok to mix the both ,but NOT to take a large amount of valium and NOT to binge drink if i did decide to drink

just would like to have some input from people who have exp mixing alcohol with valium

again thank you in advance
 
Ok if you take only 5mg of Valuim and maybe 3 beers you'll be good. That's my personal experience and if you space out the dose abit you can drink more but be carful man. I once took 30mg of Valuim with 4mg xanax; long story short I drank a beer and started to overdose due to me also taking 24g's of kratom everyday and that day I popped like 20mg OxyCodone with some hydro I can't remember how much probably 20mg Hydro, & basically overdosed and caught myself before I threw up all over my room and went to the bath room puked it all out, and felt soooo high and nice. I thought I was on cloud 9, but never do that with your toloerence man you'll die or OD and end up in the hospital.
 
If you have the mind to ask, along with not drinking more than 2 beers a day and not using large amounts of benzos, I'm sure you'll be perfectly fine with whatever you decide. Just do the research on what can happen when mixing benzos and alcohol, experiment yourself starting with very small amounts, and you're good to go.
 
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Oh, and I would recommend spacing the benzos and beer out as much as you can, even if you don't think it would be harmful to take them together. Another tip would be to not combine these substances before you go to bed. At the very least, don't combine them and go right to sleep, please. At least if you're awake and planning to stay awake, even if the worst happens you still have options.
 
yeah like i said the reason i want to take valium is because i feel its effects much longer than xanax i was thinking of taking a 2.5mg or cutting that in half and taking it early morning then at night i usually get the urge to drink after winding down maybe 8 pm 7pm give or take
 
i usually wake up around 6 am like right now lol so i should have a 12 to 13 hr gap from when i would take the valium to my first drink
see if i can take it down to one beer today i drank 2 last night and i got hammered hopefully ill be able to quit soon drinkin is no longer fun i did state otherwise in the original post but i like it but then i dont well not drinking every day at first i was terrified of alcohol withdrawal but the MD that checked me out said WD from alcohol as such low intake is almost impossible aside from bad anxiety
 
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Edaw'Naflagn said:
Ok if you take only 5mg of Valuim and maybe 3 beers you'll be good. That's my personal experience and if you space out the dose abit you can drink more but be carful man. I once took 30mg of Valuim with 4mg xanax; long story short I drank a beer and started to overdose due to me also taking 24g's of kratom everyday and that day I popped like 20mg OxyCodone with some hydro I can't remember how much probably 20mg Hydro, & basically overdosed and caught myself before I threw up all over my room and went to the bath room puked it all out, and felt soooo high and nice. I thought I was on cloud 9, but never do that with your toloerence man you'll die or OD and end up in the hospital.
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you sir are a wildman lol no way in hell would i have been able to tolerate that cocktail glad your ok
i took ativan once after 4 beers im not sure if i blacked out...i guess if i have to ponder about that i prob did ativan b far is the worst /benzo for me works a charm but hellish amnesia effects i once spent an hr looking for my phone while it was in my hand haha
 
Hahaha yeah I was crazy being younger, but I've learned my lesson(s). But for sure Valuim has a 200 hour half life so remember, it'll be in your system for many days and depending on dose, you can get a heavyweight buzz going on after a few beers if the dose is like 3-2.5mg. I'd say 2.5 for you just to be safe and for sure space out the dose; from that point you can up the dose or keep it at 2.5mg.
 
think i should just detox then using this valium i got...i asked a detox center once what it was they would give me if i ever went into detox and the lady said valium and vitamins
i didnt know shit about benzos at that time but i can see why valium is the best route because of the long half life
prob start off using half of 2.5mg and see it goes from there thank you guys for the input anyone else is welcome to share exp
 
Well I'm actually detoxing as well from 6 years of benzo/barb abuse. I'm not going to detox due to me losing access to my scripts. I simply detox at home by getting Ativan, Valium, Phenobarbital, and my normal dose of Xanax 2mg-2.5mg everyday- I weened to only 2mg of xanax and 1mg of Ativan. Now I'm about to drop down to 1mg of xanax with 1-2mg of Ativan if needed; id like to take just 1mg of Ativan but if needed I'll throw another mg in the mix. From then on I'll use Phenobarbital or Valium, I'll probably use both but after I use Pheno first and then Valium to slowly ween off of all CNS depressants.[Valium: 5mg-10mg every 2 1/2 days] [Phenobarbital: 15.4mg every 4-6 days due to pheno having a half-life up to 400-450 hours.] hope you get better man :) but to tell you the truth you may wanna just ween your self instead of getting your access to your medication taken away due to that session of detoxing being on legal paper work that doctors look at before any scripts are given; but, if you feel as though it is the right thing to do in your opinion, then go to a legit detox program like what you're doing man :) best of luck, & much love.
 
Edaw'Naflagn said:
Well I'm actually detoxing as well from 6 years of benzo/barb abuse. I'm not going to detox due to me losing access to my scripts. I simply detox at home by getting Ativan, Valium, Phenobarbital, and my normal dose of Xanax 2mg-2.5mg everyday- I weened to only 2mg of xanax and 1mg of Ativan. Now I'm about to drop down to 1mg of xanax with 1-2mg of Ativan if needed; id like to take just 1mg of Ativan but if needed I'll throw another mg in the mix. From then on I'll use Phenobarbital or Valium, I'll probably use both but after I use Pheno first and then Valium to slowly ween off of all CNS depressants.[Valium: 5mg-10mg every 2 1/2 days] [Phenobarbital: 15.4mg every 4-6 days due to pheno having a half-life up to 400-450 hours.] hope you get better man :) but to tell you the truth you may wanna just ween your self instead of getting your access to your medication taken away due to that session of detoxing being on legal paper work that doctors look at before any scripts are given; but, if you feel as though it is the right thing to do in your opinion, then go to a legit detox program like what you're doing man :) best of luck, & much love.
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oh naw maybe i shouldve stated more info im not detoxing from benzos im gonna detox myself from alcohol i know alcohol withdrawal is just as bad and dangeroud but benzo withdrawal is the worst
i talked to a few docs already and all said i should get minimal withdrawal issues nothing to crazy but to expect extreme anxiety the first 3 days to take plenty of vitamins and stay hydrated along with the valium
i wouldnt dare try and detox from benzos at home im not that much of a badass you sir much respect i know it takes alot
why not go to a detox center to do it safely ?
 
congrats on cutting down on the beer.
yes, i would not mix the 2 at all… all drugs have a peak effect, usually after an hour or so you take it… you especially don't want the highs from two different cns depressants in your system peaking at the same time.
Valium indeed is a smoother ride than Xanax for cutting down. Tranxene for an even smoother taper. Clorazepate that is.. longest 1/2 life of all
Good luck!
 
I'm not detoxing due to me actually needing xanax because of PTSD and a hard life, but I've went cold turkey off of Ativan (10mg's everyday for 2 1/2 years) at a young age of 13-14. It took a full year and a half to fully get my GABA receptors back in shape; sad thing is due to many head Injuries/mental/severe emotional problems due to a fucked up family and having to grow up very quick to take care of my mom who is now takin care of me because of physical conditions, times the lingering PTSD flash backs and emotional problems that amplify my already hardships which makes me literally insane (clinically they said I have psychosis). No SSRI helps, no mood stabilizers help, no anti-psychotics; literally nothing but the "bad" medication works the best sadly so I take my chances since I've done detox many times at home without doctor supervision (NOT SUGGESTED). I went sober to and I almost blew my brains out with a loaded rifle under my chin and it didn't go off, I'm luckily alive but sadly I sometimes wish it went off :( actually a lot of times I hope it would have went off. I'm worth nothin to this society, I have such paranoia I don't even trust my own mother or father. My sisters left me behind to start their lives which is good but I can't deal with this life and my loved ones lives alone (my loved ones other than my father are very dysfunctional). My father helps me but I feel so bad when he sees me passed out on opiates for my physical pain/emotional out breaks due to flash backs. I never steal money or pawn shit but I feel like a junkie even though I started to understand that abusing my meds is worthless because it makes things much worse. My meds are nice and strong and I've ODed over 100 times off of many different meds/drugs so I'm not a "bad ass" but I suppose im a professional drug user. I enjoy this website because even though I can't help people through money I can at least explain to people how to use drugs without hurtin themselves or others. So I feel great helping people like you out/anyone from starters to one timers to true addicts :) didn't mean to get into my life lol I just wanted to explain why I don't want to lose access to my meds :) I hope I helped you and if you have any other questions later with meds, just add me as a friend and I'll message you what I know and what I don't know so you can come back to this wonderful website to get better suggestions that are more credible then mine :)
 
As long as you're sensible with the doses, it's actually a fine combination. Alcohol and valium potentiate each other but not to a dangerous degree.

It's the old-school sedatives you gotta watch out for. Drinking on Somas, GHB or anything like that gets very messy, very quickly.
 
Both are CNS depressants ... So make the choice to do one, or the other before you mix.

On a non alcohol day, try 2.5 mg of valium to start to see how it affects you. Try this a few days before you bump your dose to 5mg. Don't go jumping in taking full 5mg with two beer, you don't know how it will affect you.

Use common sense in this situation, please. Not sure what you are trying to achieve...just relaxation from anxiety?

You may find that the valium may help more without any alcohol involved.

Valium makes me cry, xanax makes me mean as hell. I rarely, I mean rarely take either....like one in the past 3 yrs. Family members of mine swear by the effects of valium, they say it last longer than kpins, or xanax.
 
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