When you reversed someones OD (i.e. saved their life)... you also said that it took awhile, Im wondering how long. . When the dude OD'd I was talking about we tried to go IV sub, didn't think it would work quick enough subL......Think it went IM and it was about 15 minutes before the dude woke up. How long did it take for the girl you saved to come to SubL? How did you keep it in her mouth...maybe a dumb question but IDK.
It took about 15 minutes as well. It's been 2.5 years since it happened, so I don't remember exactly, but I would guess about 15 minutes.
It wasn't hard to keep it in her mouth because it was crushed up into a fine powder and we managed to get it in before she went totally unconscious. She was on the verge of being out, but still barely able to listen to verbal commands. She held her mouth open and we had the powder in a folded corner of paper and slid it under her tongue. As soon as it hit, it became moist and stuck to the surface, dissolving fast.
When your OD'd person woke up were they precipitated? Mine wasn't they said no, if anything I still feel a little buzzed, which is wierd for someone who in theory should've been through precipitated.
She was, but it wasn't too severe. We drove her to the hospital after administering the Suboxone, but she woke up literally
right as we were pulling in. Good thing, too, because recently I discovered the hospital doesn't have an ER. Funny thing is, I discovered this by having to drive her their for an OD again, this time she didn't wake up before we got there.
The time we gave her the Sub, after she woke up, we drove back to the dope house to get the dope and gear we left behind (didn't wanna take it to the hospital with us) and she did more to counter the withdrawal, but did a lot less than she did when she ODed.
Do you find this thread a bit funny, even anti-harm reduction....it went about 3 pages telling people to call the ER, hell people die waiting for ambo's all the time, I say if you got the tools do the job.
Yeah, I don't really like the idea of people relying solely on Suboxone to reverse ODs. What I want people to understand is that just because this does work does not mean it should be used/relied on. Always call EMS or take the person to ER. Suboxone can be used alongside either EMS/driving to the ER in hopes that it will wake them up before help arrives. Without the Suboxone, they could die en route to the hospital or waiting for EMS, so the Suboxone could prevent that, but you should always call EMS or take them to the hospital just in case the Suboxone does not bring them out.
Also, the time it takes to prep an IV shot of Suboxone is too long, and giving it sublingual takes just as long, time that could be used with EMS/Hospital. Trying to give an IV in the excitement around the OD will be pretty hard, too.
Are people really so selfish that they know this works and won't do it because they scared to be involved? Theyd rather what, let the person die and sneak out quietly...
I sure hope not. For those people, if you're not going to call 911 or take the person to the hospital, then A) you're a dick, and B) at the very least, put some crushed up Suboxone under their tongue before ducking out like a douche bag coward.
IDK the whole thing is making me think, why is this not common junkie knowledge.....
Because BL junkies are not your average junkie. The majority of heroin users aren't nearly as educated on this stuff as we are.
Anyone have a story when they tried this and it didn't work, the person died or went coma or got worse after an OD than sub shot?
Again, I sure hope not.
