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Using suboxone for short term detox from opana

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Jacksterini

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Hi. I was currently snorting opana er 40 mg. everyday. After detoxing cold turkey a alot of other x from other opiates almost everything. Except heroin. I knew wat i was facing and bit the bullet and went to the dr to get suboxone 18 hrs into withdrawal. It works great and im so greatful to not b suffering now. But i want to know if anyone has used suboxone for just acute withdrawals. Dr wants me to stay on longer. I no the chances if relapse bit i also no that. Suboxone is a much longer detox. And i may as well go to rehab for something more fun. Anyway. I started 8 mg suboxone yesterday another 8 today. Does anyone no a proper taper to get thru opana withdrawals without getting addicted to suboxone. Thank u. And God bless everone on this site who is struggling. These forums have helped me thru so much
 
I would not reccoment using suboxone for a 40mg opana habit. The best thing for you would to be to taper your usage. Suboxone for such a low usage would not be beneficial, in fact you would be taking something far stronger than you really need and you likely will become addicted because it will take you so long to get off it.

I would stop the suboxone right now and taper your opana.
 
It is exceedingly difficult to taper down using opana. (I did, but it took months and incredible self control).

Oxymorphone withdrawals are some of the worst acute WD an opiate can give.

I would stay on suboxone for 1 week, maybe 1 week and a half, steadily decreasing your dose until you're at 0.25mg at the least, then jump off.
Also, split up your buprenorphine into 2 or 3 doses. 8mg is wayyy too high for detox, even for opana in my experience. You should be able to get by with 4mg/day (2mg morning, 1mg afternoon 1mg evening), then begin a very rapid taper. You will still be uncomfortable but it will not be the full wrath of buprenorphine WD and if you stay on subs for less than 2 weeks at lower doses, I don't think you will become buprenorphine dependent especially if you're constantly lowering your dose.
 
40mg of opana is pretty brutal actually. When I had a 50mg IV opana habit, the suboxone gave me almost little relief, but then again, snorting has pretty much a 50% lower BA. Opana is a hard kick though.

Tricomb's advice is solid. I would cut down to 4mg Tomorow, then 2 mg, 1 mg, .5 mg, and then finish off with a day or two of .25mg. Remember that due to the long half life, you will still have a good ammount of the previous days dosage in your system, so jumping down by 1/2 is not so rediculous if you want to do a short term detox. You will still be a bit uncomfortable, but better off than staying on the sub for a month.
 
Exactly^

Opana is one opiate where I can always justify using another drug to detox, I admit I cannot go cold turkey off opana. It's the only opiate that completely kicks my ass when in WD. I had an easier time kicking a smoked fentanyl addiction cold turkey, and any heroin addiction has been easier to kick than when I tried to get off 40mg insufflated opana without methadone or buprenorphine.

Over the past month or so I've been drastically reducing my use of opana (since the good snortable octagons are almost gone where I'm at) I've been using methadone, and now I'm happily down to 5mg opana snorted and 5mg methadone (2.5mg PO BID).
 
Thank u all for ur advice. Ive detoxed from alot and opana is. No joooooke. So. Basically i should taper down everyday. Should i skip days. I really appreciate. The help. If another person tells me to listen to the dr ill flip. Cuz the only people who know are people who have been thru it and dr has more to gain by keeping me on it. A long time ago when o started on oxycontin inrealized dr gave ot to me on hopes i would eventually b on suboxone he couldnt believe i detoxed cold turkey and said it was impossible to do. But i dont know if i have another cold turkey in me. Thank you all. Again this forum has been wonderful for me over the yrs even thougb i just joined
 
What you should do is taper down everyday.

I've only used buprenorphine and methadone for help getting off serious opioids like opana for the purpose of short term rapid detox, not maintenance.

If you follow the advice I gave you, you should be fine. Don't skip doses until you're down to like 0.25mg, maybe 0.5mg bupre
 
Btw at madog11. With all respect if suboxone isnt good for an opana habit than wat is it good for Ive done the percs vicodin roxies oxies. Amd roxies are brutal. But opanas were the most powerfful opiate i ever had. When i snorted it of course. But. It sucked waking up everynite with withdrawals.
 
Thank you tricomb. I appreciate. Hopin i can tough it out and not b hooked. Im truly greatful for the fast responses and advice
 
Yeah, I've used methadone extensively for rapid detox (2 weeks or less) of getting off Opana.

Also, used buprenorphine for getting of opana, heroin, oxy, and morphine. Methadone vs. Buprenorphine both have pros and cons, but the best part of buprenorphine is that for short detoxes you won't end up addicted to it, like what can happen if you do a slower methadone taper.

Best of luck, Opana has been my drug of choice for a long time, I like to think I know what I'm doing :)
 
Thank you will try to keep posting to c if i can do this Tommorw ill take the 4 mg. and c how it goes I dont no if this is true bit last time i tried to quit opana i felt the withddrawals came and went sooner than oxy withdrawals But were harsher in a shorter spam of time. I. Miss. My opanas already. But im tired of keeping up and blew out my sinuses the other nite And it freaked me out. Too mich money. And cant always find them. Soo maybe im quitting. Cuz i have too but dont want to feel to much pain regardless of y i m stopping. I no alot of u r heavier users. But im 100lb female and 40 mg insufflated was enugh to knock me on my ass.
 
Im sure ur right. Stupid me detoxed from roxies orally. Cold turkey to relapsing two weeks later on opanas Maybe thats y it kicked my ass. Love my opanas. But. Cant keep uP the life May e suboxone is the opiate addicts lexipro or lithium. Everyone seems to have a cocktail for life. Fortunatly. Heroin was the only rd i never went down. Even tho ive thought about it many cold turkey withdrawals. I. Feel like opana insufflated was pretty close to what h would feel like.
 
Indeed, I've never heard of buprenorphine being referred to as if it were the Prozac for addicts, but I like that analogy.

Trust me you're not missing out on heroin, snorted opana is much stronger in my experience than a shot of IV heroin. And that speaks volumes.

Anyways, I wish you the best of luck with your rapid detox. It ain't fun, but at least you're not going completely cold turkey.

I've kicked habits several times using JUST ONE 8mg suboxone.

IMO, if buprenorphine isn't enough to stop the cravings, which has happened to me, I found methadone to work much better for the super potent opioids like oxymorphone and heroin.

I think it's great that buprenorphine can help people get off these, but IMO it's a lot better for people with low-moderate addictions like to oxycodone, or small heroin habits. But if it works for you, I'm not trying to bash it. Buprenorphine has helped me out BIG TIME in my times of need, but I've found methadone to work better, as a LAST LINE TREATMENT.
 
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