Has anyone ever tried adding a low-dose of moxy to MDMA and MDMA-like substances to magnify the effects? Methylone is usually quite mellow, but with addition of 5-8mgs of 5-meo-mipt the high was quite intensified, although the comedown was also much harsher than M1 alone. Asking because a gram of moxy has 100+ doses and just a pinch seems to stretch out other substances . . . thoughts?
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Using Moxy to potentiate MDMA, Methylone, meph etc
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Ballz_Trippington
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I am curious about this combo as well but I did read that 5-meo-mipt is a Triple monoamine reuptake inhibitor and MDMA releases serotonin, dopamine, and norepinephrine - all 3 of which Moxy inhibits the reuptake of. I'm no doctor or chemist so it would be great if someone more knowledgable could chime in here say for sure if this is a dangerous combo or not. They sure seem (taking them alone) that would be awesome together as long as your not risking serotonin syndrome or whatever.
Folley
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I've heard that DiPT/MiPT analogues should not be mixed with most stimulants/empathogens.
Ballz_Trippington
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I guess what we need to definitively know is : is it reasonably to combine a low dose of a triple monoamine reuptake inhibitor with a monoamine releaser?
lovepsychadelics
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5 meo mipt is awful on the heart and not a tryptamine I EVER plan on using again. Foxy and Moxy feel sketchy on the cardio vascular system to say the least. This combined with MDMA would have me feeling like my heart would explode and I don't even need to try the combo to know that. I had 100 mg of 5 meo mipt and discarded the lot after just 2 x 8 mg doses taken 1 week apart. I guess others may not have such a rough time but the comedowns described indicate that most people have experienced this harsh body load/toll to lesser or greater degrees. 5 meo dipt was not as bad physically as 5 meo mipt but I'd advise extreme caution with either of these substances. In my experience foxy and moxy are not worth the physical ordeal.
DMT and a MAOI what is the difference, well DMT+MAOI has a long history of human use. Despite this that combination can be be extremely difficult especially for the inexperienced. I don't advise foxy/moxy + mdma at all but if you do at least have something like a benzo handy. Remember if your needing a benzo generally things have gone to far and you shouldn't repeat that combination ever again.
If your needing to add 5 meo mipt/dipt to methylone it kind of say's it all: M1 = shit drug.
DMT and a MAOI what is the difference, well DMT+MAOI has a long history of human use. Despite this that combination can be be extremely difficult especially for the inexperienced. I don't advise foxy/moxy + mdma at all but if you do at least have something like a benzo handy. Remember if your needing a benzo generally things have gone to far and you shouldn't repeat that combination ever again.
If your needing to add 5 meo mipt/dipt to methylone it kind of say's it all: M1 = shit drug.
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Ballz_Trippington
Bluelighter
Personally, I really like Moxy. It amplifies every sensory experience: taste, sound, touch. I've never noticed even a slight increase in heart rate @10mg.
I have had a close friend push the dosage for Moxy up to 28mg and only reported being unable to walk / loss of motor coordination. He also reported it to be VERY visual at that dose.
I'm more interested in combining it with mdma not m1.
My gut instinct is that it's probably not safe to combine but I'd sure a expert to verify.
I have had a close friend push the dosage for Moxy up to 28mg and only reported being unable to walk / loss of motor coordination. He also reported it to be VERY visual at that dose.
I'm more interested in combining it with mdma not m1.
My gut instinct is that it's probably not safe to combine but I'd sure a expert to verify.
lovepsychadelics
Bluelighter
It seems 50% of people find moxy to have an unpleasant body load and the others don't. I'm not as young as I used to be and I've already had a few sketchy combos' so my heart feels the strain a little more these days. I find things like 4 HO MET and 4 ACO DMT etc to be fucking amazing but the 4HO/4ACO DET's and 5meo mipt/dipt to be uncomfortable and I didn't feel like pushing 5 meo mipt above 8 mg. Foxy aka 5 meo dipt not so bad but still not great, that said I ate a 100 mg sample of the stuff and didn't flush it and did 10-15 mg per dose and was quite euphoric but come down sucked. I guess I react ok to foxy but don't react well at all to the moxy??
I guess every one is different but even if I did enjoy 5 meo mipt and combo'd it with MDMA I'd have 2.5-5 mg diazepam on hand in case things got a little to intense. If your ok with 8-10 mg moxy and did a small dose mdma 100 mg or so you should be ok. It's your body it'll tell you when it's not liking what yor doing to it. Stay hydrated and don't drop on an empty stomach. Oral 15 mg 4 ACO DMT + 15 mg 2cb was nice and much cheaper than mdma although I took the B on the tail end of the 4 ACO DMT peak, about 2.5 hours in. Still felt wired for hours though and had to take 10 mg diazepam to sleep 8 hours later. Play it safe and first try the combo at home with a benzo handy and a sitter or at least someone less intoxicated than yourself just in case.
Difficulty walking on high doses of tryptamines is not uncommon. 60 odd mg aMT and I had trouble walking because the visuals were like one of those spinning walkways with the lights, kept throwing me off balance as my brain tried to compensate for the perception of lost balance... weird. 4 HO MiPT at higher doses 30-35 mg also made walking a little tricky and I ended up just laying on my friends bed staring at the ceiling. 4 ACO MiPT was fine at up to 40 mg loads of visuals but no trouble walking. I've had trouble with shrooms, ended up sitting upside down on a couch watching some tv show about 13 th century siege wepons and assumed the lotus position, all the while marveling at how green the grass on tele was lmao.
I guess every one is different but even if I did enjoy 5 meo mipt and combo'd it with MDMA I'd have 2.5-5 mg diazepam on hand in case things got a little to intense. If your ok with 8-10 mg moxy and did a small dose mdma 100 mg or so you should be ok. It's your body it'll tell you when it's not liking what yor doing to it. Stay hydrated and don't drop on an empty stomach. Oral 15 mg 4 ACO DMT + 15 mg 2cb was nice and much cheaper than mdma although I took the B on the tail end of the 4 ACO DMT peak, about 2.5 hours in. Still felt wired for hours though and had to take 10 mg diazepam to sleep 8 hours later. Play it safe and first try the combo at home with a benzo handy and a sitter or at least someone less intoxicated than yourself just in case.
Difficulty walking on high doses of tryptamines is not uncommon. 60 odd mg aMT and I had trouble walking because the visuals were like one of those spinning walkways with the lights, kept throwing me off balance as my brain tried to compensate for the perception of lost balance... weird. 4 HO MiPT at higher doses 30-35 mg also made walking a little tricky and I ended up just laying on my friends bed staring at the ceiling. 4 ACO MiPT was fine at up to 40 mg loads of visuals but no trouble walking. I've had trouble with shrooms, ended up sitting upside down on a couch watching some tv show about 13 th century siege wepons and assumed the lotus position, all the while marveling at how green the grass on tele was lmao.
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