Meth Using Meth soon - Advice needed

[Deleted member 595601]

Is there anything I should know?
- I will Fent test it
- My mate already uses it alot and I ordered from the same supplier
- Will do Oral and start lower dose range
- Already have experience with Vyvance (30-70mg)
- I have a micro scale 1mg accurate
- I already eat high Vitamine C diet / High protein
- I'll use it in the early morning with some food

I'd love some advice from people who already use it often
- Not sure how I know if it's actually good quality or how it should feel or bassicly anything else

 

[Deleted member 595601]

And i will be using Crystal Meth, not powder. Just bc it was easier to get my hands on but also bc it's safer
-Crystalline forms of both methamphetamine (Chisq=57, p<0.001) and cocaine (Chisq=18, p<0.001) were less likely to contain fentanyl: less than 1% of crystal methamphetamine (2/276) and no crack cocaine (0/53).

 

[streaM Freak]

My advice is don't try it. There is no "smart" way to do it. Seriously.

But if you absolutely cannot live life without flirting with one of the easiest ways to get a dopamine rush (which will make getting dopamine without the drugs much more difficult), then my advice is to make sure you have the entire day cleared away because your plans will probably go right out the window.

 

[N0ph0n0]

Is there anything I should know?
- I will Fent test it
- My mate already uses it alot and I ordered from the same supplier
- Will do Oral and start lower dose range
- Already have experience with Vyvance (30-70mg)
- I have a micro scale 1mg accurate
- I already eat high Vitamine C diet / High protein and will also start drinking Soda ( Since those 3 things will lower the halflife of the drug by quite a good amount of hours )
- I'll use it in the early morning with some food

I'd love some advice from people who already use it often
- Not sure how I know if it's actually good quality or how it should feel or bassicly anything else

DRINK WATER NOT SODA, you are allredy gonna be dehydrated enough jesus christ, meth mouth is caused by methheads drinking too much sugary shit. Also for the quality it's semi easy, if it's clear like glass it's good, if it's brittle/sticky then it's prolly cut with msm (harmless), if it's cloudy it's trash. Also i recommend snorting it in small bumps like 10-20mg and waiting 15-20 minutes between bumps until you find a dosage that's right for you. Taking it orally will last forever and you might not sleep for 1-3 days.

 

[N0ph0n0]

DRINK WATER NOT SODA, you are allredy gonna be dehydrated enough jesus christ, meth mouth is caused by methheads drinking too much sugary shit. Also for the quality it's semi easy, if it's clear like glass it's good, if it's brittle/sticky then it's prolly cut with msm (harmless), if it's cloudy it's trash. Also i recommend snorting it in small bumps like 10-20mg and waiting 15-20 minutes between bumps until you find a dosage that's right for you. Taking it orally will last forever and you might not sleep for 1-3 days.

Also dont do meth cuz it's bad (eventhough i know you wont listen to us and do it anyways)

 

[Deleted member 595601]

Ok thanks, I have heared that Soda can influence the halflife due to PH levels and make it get out of your body quicker
Since when phosphoric acid is consumed it will make it so that meth leaves the body quicker

But either way, if OP uses, his pretty face will surely deteriorate

Also dont do meth cuz it's bad (eventhough i know you wont listen to us and do it anyways)

 

[streaM Freak]

Ok thanks, I have heared that Soda can influence the halflife due to PH levels and make it get out of your body quicker

What's wrong with Vyvanse? The feeling is very similar, the thing about meth is that it just crosses the blood-brain barrier so efficiently that it basically just hijacks your reward system

 

[Deleted member 595601]

What's wrong with Vyvanse? The feeling is very similar, the thing about meth is that it just crosses the blood-brain barrier so efficiently that it basically just hijacks your reward system

It's the only thing I can get my hands on, I plan on doing like 5-15mgs only so it should be about the same effects of my normal vyvance. Im not entirely happy with it but ill just use it as an alternative until I can get vyvance again

 

[streaM Freak]

It's the only thing I can get my hands on, I plan on doing like 5-15mgs only so it should be about the same effects of my normal vyvance. Im not entirely happy with it but ill just use it as an alternative until I can get vyvance again

Ahh, only thing can get hands on not to be mean because obviously you don't have the first hand experience (I used heavily for 3 years) but that is pretty backwards logic.

Its not as glamorous as it seems. Trust me. It isn't glamorous at all. Most people who support meth use are addicts themselves.

 

[streaM Freak]

I would really advise you just hold this uncomfortable urge to use and wait for Vyvanse. It is such the clearly best choice, and I don't know how to make you understand.

 

[Deleted member 595601]

Ahh, only thing can get hands on not to be mean because obviously you don't have the first hand experience (I used heavily for 3 years) but that is pretty backwards logic.

Its not as glamorous as it seems. Trust me. It isn't glamorous at all. Most people who support meth use are addicts themselves.

I can get my hands on anything, but Vyvance would just be a extreme price that I can't pay right now, I gotta wait like at least half a year till my old seller can sell me 60mg vyvance pills for 1 euro again.
I understand you're consern but I will more so use it into a productive setting, not like a junkie who just takes it for no reason, Every sunday i wake up at ~5am in the morning and Ill just take it than and crank in a fuck ton of work for my business. I understand that it has side effects and all that, but I already weighed the pro's and con's for me and decide to start using it. This is a harm-reduction site not a prevention site + I find it weird that this is all that people say while they use it themselves for years, ofcourse they know more about it but there is a clear diffrence when u use something heavily for 3 years in comparison to somebody who just tries to use it as optimal as possible 1 time a week on a very early morning on a sunday. No disrespect or anything, but the argument '' Dont do it'' is pretty useless for me

 

[streaM Freak]

I can get my hands on anything, but Vyvance would just be a extreme price that I can't pay right now, I gotta wait like at least half a year till my old seller can sell me 60mg vyvance pills for 1 euro again.
I understand you're consern but I will more so use it into a productive setting, not like a junkie who just takes it for no reason, Every sunday i wake up at ~5am in the morning and Ill just take it than and crank in a fuck ton of work for my business. I understand that it has side effects and all that, but I already weighed the pro's and con's for me and decide to start using it. This is a harm-reduction site not a prevention site + I find it weird that this is all that people say while they use it themselves for years, ofcourse they know more about it but there is a clear diffrence when u use something heavily for 3 years in comparison to somebody who just tries to use it as optimal as possible 1 time a week on a very early morning on a sunday. No disrespect or anything, but the argument '' Dont do it'' is pretty useless for me

This is harm reduction - but you haven't even done harm yet, so there's nothing to reduce - You're about to take a ride down a waterslide, and you expect people to just wave at you and say fair well.

I've said what I believe to be true. If you think there is so much difference between you and other people who use meth, then that's a mindset that it seems you are going to figure out the hard way.

Take care and be smart.

 

[N0ph0n0]

Sugar causing meth mouth, that's a knee-slapper.

More likely too much lithium or sodium hydroxide or some other toxic as fuck chemical from home made shake and bake being smoked, don't you think?

Maybe but according to this research paper https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6100769/ the real cause truely is sugar.

I understand you're consern but I will more so use it into a productive setting, not like a junkie who just takes it for no reason, Every sunday i wake up at ~5am in the morning and Ill just take it than and crank in a fuck ton of work for my business.

That's what every junkie tells themselves at first, like straight up dont wanna be rude but you are lying to yourself creating false justifications.

 

[streaM Freak]

^ I appreciate the reply to my post and to the OP - I ended up deleting that post of mine so to not take away from the seriousness of the topic.

Yeah, IDK @EatMyDust , this is coming from a place of love. Just, use your head. And be careful.

 

[Deleted member 595601]

Maybe but according to this research paper https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6100769/ the real cause truely is sugar.

That's what every junkie tells themselves at first, like straight up dont wanna be rude but you are lying to yourself creating false justifications.

^ I appreciate the reply to my post and to the OP - I ended up deleting that post of mine so to not take away from the seriousness of the topic.

Yeah, IDK @EatMyDust , this is coming from a place of love. Just, use your head. And be careful.

Thanks for respopnding both, I actually meant phosphoric acid mainly not really like directly soda, i should have been more clear. I mainly drink crystal clear and 0 calorie soda or something like that

 

[N0ph0n0]

Thanks for respopnding both, I actually meant phosphoric acid mainly not really like directly soda, i should have been more clear. I mainly drink crystal clear and 0 calorie soda or something like that

Ok yeah that's better, still i really dont recommend taking it orally for a first due to how long it's gonna last even with phosphoric acid you wont get ANY sleep.

 

[tuppingtoncity]

Some of these replies seem a little ridiculous; if you are using methamphetamine orally at low-ish doses as a replacement for vyvanse/extended release amphetamine, they are virtually identical substances. There is nothing unique about it's marginal ability to cross the BBB faster that will arbitrarily make it more dangerous when used orally. It can be a functional drug, and in fact was for millions of americans for quite some time (methamphetamine prescriptions peaked in 1967 at 31 million in the United States alone). Just say no arguments are anti-harm reduction, and branding someone a "junkie" just because they want to use methamphetamine functionally is not harm reduction, but name calling. What is good harm reduction is 1) reagent and fentanyl testing your methamphetamine, 2) like you said, predosing with vitamin C, alpha lipoic acid, or various anti-oxidants (almost always a good idea with monoamine releasers), 3) staying hydrated (with water preferably), 4) dosing relatively early in the morning to allow for good sleep at night, and 5) limiting your usage as much as possible. Although amphetamines can be used very effectively for functional purposes, you definitely don't want to become dependent on amphetamines to get good work done.

 

[streaM Freak]

you definitely don't want to become dependent on amphetamines to get good work done.

Right.

And similarly, using meth merely for a substitute for Vyvanse is not, in my opinion, a smart choice.

 

[tuppingtoncity]

Right.

And similarly, using meth merely for a substitute for Vyvanse is not, in my opinion, a smart choice.

yes, clearly not ideal... pharmaceutical companies do make pure, reliably dosed products that are inherently safer just because of that fact alone. But just speaking about it from a pharmacological perspective, I have yet to see why methamphetamine dosed appropriately and used orally that will cause significantly more risk to the user than any amphetamine formulation, pharmaceutical or not, if proper harm reduction efforts are made beforehand.

No one is using the word "junkie" aside from you two who have the justifications. You must be of a more resilient breed, right?

Well, it was used in the thread before, my response was not just to you... Additionally, not everyone who uses a substance must develop a poor relationship with it. I have used methamphetamine incredibly sparingly (like a few times a year) as a functional drug and never once felt a desire to use more frequently. I'm not saying this is the norm, but neither is becoming an addict. You have to look at things from an objective point of view. I have no 'allegiance' to methamphetamine, but its demonization due in large part to a history of abuse in America (which is almost purely the result of economic factors, not pharmacological properties; for proof, look to Europe and the recreational popularity of amphetamine over methamphetamine) is absurd.

 

[streaM Freak]

yes, clearly not ideal... pharmaceutical companies do make pure, reliably dosed products that are inherently safer just because of that fact alone. But just speaking about it from a pharmacological perspective, I have yet to see why methamphetamine dosed appropriately and used orally that will cause significantly more risk to the user than any amphetamine formulation, pharmaceutical or not, if proper harm reduction efforts are made beforehand.

Well, it was used in the thread before, my response was not just to you... Additionally, not everyone who uses a substance must develop a poor relationship with it. I have used methamphetamine incredibly sparingly (like a few times a year) as a functional drug and never once felt a desire to use more frequently. I'm not saying this is the norm, but neither is becoming an addict. You have to look at things from an objective point of view. I have no 'allegiance' to methamphetamine, but its demonization due in large part to a history of abuse in America (which is almost purely the result of economic factors, not pharmacological properties; for proof, look to Europe and the recreational popularity of amphetamine over methamphetamine) is absurd.

I hear you, i agree.

Desoxyn, it isn't prescribed much at all. Vyvanse gets converted to dextro. Meth reaches the brain a lot quicker. It doesn't seem like a big difference, but it just makes the potential for abuse high.

You're right that it is demonized. Some would argue for good reason.

But at the end of the day, i think we all just want the OP to be careful.