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kangol1973

kangol1973

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Ok I know this sounds a bit odd, but I have a friend who is hung up on the death of a loved on (girlfriend) I have tried to help him numerous occaisions to get him to talk about it a bit more. He talks about her only when he is drunk and he always talks about the good things that they both did. She passed away almost a year ago and he is still hung up on her. He is CONVINCED that there is no one else in the world for him (although a friend of ours likes him and wants to date him)

Would using MDMA, in the proper set and setting (me, him and our female friend that likes him) help at all? I mean, I would love to see him finally break through and realize that there is someone right here right now that sees him in a way close to his ex.... I'm not trying to play matchmaker and hook them up while on E, I would just like to have a good time and let them talk about things.

He is not dealing with depression, (as he has said) he's just stuck on her. He takes no meds and hasn't been suicidal, unstable, or anything close to that. I just would like to see him happy again, that's all...


If MDMA is not a good idea, can anyone suggest something that may help?
 
Deffinetly not clinical. He is a well rounded person (mentally and physically) and just needs to get over it
 
You'll end up getting into an endless feedback loop, as MDMA CAUSES depression, and you take it hoping to alleviate it, and the depression just gets worse. My best suggestion is psychiatric counseling.
 
nndmt said:
You'll end up getting into an endless feedback loop, as MDMA CAUSES depression, and you take it hoping to alleviate it, and the depression just gets worse. My best suggestion is psychiatric counseling.
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Bullshit. He already said it's a "love thing" it isn't clinical depression. MDMA is perfectly fitted for resolving emotional impasse, especially in the set and setting kangol1973 mentioned.

We're not talking daily/weekly MDMA use, we're talking about specific use to solve a specifc problem.
 
Yeah, I'm only wanting to try this with him once to see if he'll breakthrough this. This won't be a weekly or monthly thing. I use mdma monthly, said friend has never tried it and I figured such set and setting may allow him to finally open up to another woman once again. 3 people total. I will take 2 blue triangle mitsus, female friend will take 2 and man friend will start with one and depending on how the evening progresses maybe a second one. I figured some good soothing-type trance as some background music and some incense burning too (i love the smell of burning incense while pilled) I just want to create a very relaxed atmosphere for everyone. I'm just trying to get my friend out of his shell.


EDIT: He doesn't need counceling. He tried it like 3 months after her passing and the psych said he was pretty much ok... He lives life just fine, he just needs a nudge in the right direction. Besides, anyone who has tried mdma for a first time and was in a good set and setting usually say that "it's a life changing experience (for the good)" which I'm hoping that's what it'll be for him
 
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From personal experience, MDMA (as well as other psychadelics and even amphetamine) use with a close friend or two to communicate with can be a very beneficial method of at least addressing personal problems. This can, in turn, lead to an improved state of well being. Good luck and be careful. Don't forget that you play as improtant a role in his recovery as any drug ever will.
 
A year is not a long time after losing a loved one. Some folks need much longer than others and if he's functioning well then it really shouldn't be an issue.

While you might be tempted to use MDMA as a therapuetic tool I'd advise against it especially the notion that it may help form a relationship with this other girl.

I'd be very cautious. MDMA can quickly fill a void and become the source of happiness.
 
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I'd be very cautious. MDMA can quickly fill a void and become the source of happiness.
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Very good advice.

I'd say that it's worth trying, but you need to make sure he's in the right frame of mind at the time. He shouldn't view MDMA as a solution to his problems, but rather a method through which he can open up and talk about them.

I'd make sure that you had 5-HTP on hand for the comedown, and that you didn't take it again for some time after....
 
I also should ask: has he seen a counselor? If not, he really should.

Though a year might not seem like a long time in relation to the death of a loved one, in an objective sense it is quite a long time. He should at least have start to come to terms with the death of his girlfriend... Are you sure its not clinical depression?
 
I think this is probably a good opportunity for MDMA to do some good, since the grieving process has obviously had a good run already. I would, however, leave this new girl out of it. Trying to get him to transfer his attachment to the new girl isn't a healthy solution; he needs to deal with his grief first. If all goes well, you could ask if he'd like to include the new girl in a future experience.

On the whole though I think he could very much benefit from an MDMA experience.
 
I've already explained to my friend as I don't want him to consider this a drug but a device to gain momentum in the right direcdtion... it's a little odd, but he's really anxious to try everything. I've explained to him that all of his feelings and emotions will be magnified tremendously. In the past two days alone he is slowly coming to terms with understanding that there really is more to life and just maybe there might be someone else out there for him. I am not trying to have a new relationship blossom from all this. I am just trying to use this so my female friend and my man friend can communicate. I don't even know if they will. I just want him to make a new friend.


And for further clarification: He went into a horrible downward spiral the day he found out she died. He drove himself to a clinic and was instituted for a short time. He was released with no known psychological disorders other than mild depression. Approx 3 months later he went to another councelor a few times and was told the same story.... "You're fine, you need to get your mind off things" He just mopes around like a sad sack
 
may i ask how she died? maybe the way she passed away has something to do with his attachment.

i think it might be helpful but keep a close eye on him to make sure his sadness/depression doesn't get worse. and if you wanna include this new girl, maybe you should ask him if he would mind if she joined in. he might be more willing to open up to a new person (especially a girl) if he knows about it and is willing to give her a chance.

good luck with everything.
 
She died in a car accident. A drunk driver ran a red light... both were killed on impact.

He is already aware that it will only be the three of us chillin that night. I explained things to him the best that I could (but not telling him that our female friend is interested in him). Since I mentioned it to him he does seem very receptive to the idea of hanging out with her... and some interest in her from what I gather. Hopefully all works out good. We plan on doing this next thursday
 
Use anti-depressents

E works for a while, then you feel fucked after


maybe you can pop then take anti d's after it might help the after effects
 
I'd really consider not having your female friend involved for the first experience especially as she has an active interest in your male friend. Seriously, it could complicate matters but you'll know better than anyone. Good luck and have fun.
 
I plan on being the mediator for the evening. This is all taking place at my house. Said female friend is not staying the whole evening as she has to work in the morning, but I'm paying for her cab back to her place. Man friend will stay over my house for the evening so we can talk after she leaves.
 
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