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Using Kratom to ease anxiety on psychedelics

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I have been using kratom at various low doses between 2 and 5 grams and I noticed it helps my anxiety greatly, much more than xanax actually. I usually get pretty bad anxiety from weed and although kratom dulls the effects of weed somewhat, it kills most of the anxiety.

So I know weed is arguably one of the most mild psychedelics but I think kratom might work the same way for other psychedelics. I've always wanted to try shrooms, lsd, and mescaline and was wondering if kratom mixes well with these or any psychedelic.
 
I consider my psychedelic use rather heavy (~1-2 trips a month give or take) and I've also been a kratom addict for almost 4 years now so I have plenty of experience with these combos. First off, I just wanna say that cannabis causes me way more anxiety than psychs do believe it or not, I say this as you mention using kratom for cannabis anxiety and how how consider it a mild psychedelic... it's really not and works on totally different receptors. Go into your first trip with a positive mindset, make sure your priorities in life are straight, eat a reasonable dose and you will likely have a fun first trip. Keep benzos on hand just in case, etizolam works if you can't access any.

Anyways, kratom can help with the anxiety from psychedelics but it also dulls the mental and sometimes visual aspect of the trip, at this point the psychedelic becomes a straightforward recreational drug with a loss of "magic". IMO kratom should be taken only if your starting to have a bad trip and don't have benzos or to ease the comedown (kratom has eased basically every comedown from any drugs for me, a great comedown aid). During my trips I tend to take small maintenance doses so that I'm not sick yet my trip isn't dulled. So to close things up, yeah kratom and psychedelics can be pleasant but it will likely dull your trip to some extent although not as much as a benzo or typical opioids. For your first trip I reccomend taking nothing but the psychedelic you choose to take, you only get one first trip so try not to muddle it in any way, mine has stuck with me to this day.
 
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I think I might just wait to trip then, my life isn't exactly great right now. I know how great the first time can be for psychs, mdma was incredible but I guess that's just the pure euphoria it gives lol.

I originally was planning on using xanax as a plan B but would kratom work better? I would rather avoid xanax (used to have a problem with it and alcohol, it wasn't a good situation)

also I don't have any problems with kratom nausea on low doses. does it cause much nausea when taken with things that cause some nausea like shrooms or certain cacti?
 
Definately don't trip if your life isn't in order, psychedelics can bring everything you chose to put in the back of your head to the surface and this can be very intimidating to even an experienced user. If you feel that you need to take an anxiolytic to trip chances are you shouldn't be tripping in the first place. As for kratom vs benzos for killing anxiety benzos win hands down, I've seen benzos bring people from running in circles pulling their hair out to chilling on the couch watching tv, I'd say benzos are the gold standard. Some may say anti-psychotics are better but those have too many side-effects for me to even consider putting intk my body. Lobotomy? No thank you.

The thing is if your having a bad trip and you take kratom the trip isn't gonna be halted and your plan may actually backfire on you. Kratom can be great at relieving anxiety but it has also caused me anxiety plenty of times when taken with cannabis or the dose is too high. As for nausea I can't really say, like you kratom doesn't give me nausea but If I'm already nauseated then kratom may push me over the edge into puke land. It would be wise to wait for any nausea to subside before taking any kratom to play it safe.
 
I guess now that I think about it, while kratom reduces my anxiety better when taken alone, xanax always helped the most for cannabis anxiety.
 
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