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Using heroin on occasion, so i get NO WITHDRAWAL

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Ok guys been smoking it for 8 months now 3-4 times a week usually all up 0.5 - 1 gram per week. Now i completely stopped cold turkey when through the ugly feeling slight diarhea runny nose, Hold & cold sweat. Nothing Crazy Lets not forget that i still got up 6:30am on these withdrawal days and jumped on the train and went to work in the city. I am now on day 3 and withdrawal are fading. No more hot cold sweat althgouh underarms abit sweaty. Little runny nose, Diarhea has settled abit. Anyways i want it to be like it used to be as i only used like once a week or fortnight and never got withdrawal. 0.5 - 1 gram can cost between a few hundred a week so thats a big chunk out of my pay. i have spent over 10K in the last 8-12 months. Just think how much i could of done with that!

So guys my question is i want to occasionally do it and not get withdrawal how long should i wait before i do my first hit. Like i said im 3 days off and withdrawals are coming to an end. Can i do my first hit lets say soon as withdrawals stop. Then do it once a week or fortnight from then on ? i need to space it out so i dont get the shitty feeling and i dont spend so much money its crazy!!!
 
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You will have withdrawals psychologically period...IMHO If you wait long enough to be an occasional low dose user, you will have very little to no physical withdrawal.

But, if you have a source and a lot of empty time to spend... Are you really going to not use till you run out? < This is the real question you need to fully understand with yourself if you plan on cutting way back on your use.
 
Ok psychologically is probably one of my hardest issues as in the next day your on the down and you feel like that hit to get you back up, then the process starts again..... My question is how long do i have to wait befiore i can take a hit with out withdrawal, Can it be soon as the withdrawals stop??? They should stop in a few days now as its been 3 days already
 
Wait for some weeks to let your tolerance go down. This will make your dependence way lower than it is right now. And you won't have to use nearly as much.

If you were to take a hit tomorrow you will still need an ample amount. <This is what you are obviously trying to avoid. correct?
 
Actually to be honest 0.2 - 0.3 is enough to give me the good feeling now 0.2 is snip and 0.3 is snip I can manage this per week for awhile. my problem is the next day low feeling gets me to get up and buy it again.. i dont want that next day ugly feeling.

At this present time if i were to buy 0.2 maybe like 15-20 spots and smoke it non-stop till the end i can get the good feeling i mean not that id be nodding out of anything but i will feel very relaxed and happy.
 
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You're fighting a losing battle. I went up and down trying to manage the habit. I know it's hard to realize now, but you can't go back. It's either all or nothing.
 
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Are you serious so what your saying is once you have made a habit you can never go back to regular use you either have to go full on or just quit? Dammmmm thats just very hard to beleive HMmmm couldnt it be different for different people??? I mean i can see how an every day user for many years IVing it will have a problem going back but for me ... Realllyyy??
 
It's just my opinion. I realize that people who shoot up every day will get hospital sick compared to you, but ime a habit goes in one direction: up. I'm sure it is possible, with all the people who have ever had a heroin habit, for someone to decelerate, but I just haven't met anyone. I really do think that while you're using that willpower is going to fly out the window. It doesn't matter how strongly you feel about just doing it once a week after you've already graduated further, you are going to give into temptation. I'm almost a month strong clean btw. Heroin will seriously trick you. It is hands down the most harmless-seeming drug out there when you are doing it for some reason.
 
Good on ya!! I know one person but this person is on methadone he Occasionally uses heroin... im going to try without methadone. I beleive i can do it, But what i beleive can actually be different to reality ... HMMM it would be good to get some more in0put on this thread to see people who have done it or know people who have done it..
 
I usually say if you do it more than 3 days in a row you risk waking up in withdrawal. But if you spend even 1 day totally clean, that is no physical addiction whatsoever, then the next day you should be able to take heroin and not become physically addicted. So if you take it monday, tuesday and wednesday but not thursday, you can take it friday and not wake up sick saturday. But each time you become physically addicted, the amount of days (or whatever you want to measure it in) needed to get hooked is reduced. So when your w/d's finally cease completely and you are totally clean, you should be able to take heroin and be fine, but if you do it just two days in a row just risk getting hooked again.

This is just how it is for me, you could be different and some people wake up sick the second day and some the twentieth.
 
That's how it starts mentally... Sorry to be blunt but it sounds to me like you're trying to rationalize your addiction. You're already spending 100$'s weekly. I would say it's safe to say you're well on your way to addiction or you are already addicted and are in denial. I am not trying to be mean or harsh. I started using opiates as an alternative to getting drunk saying "I'd only do it on the weekends".. then it was daily... Now my back is so fucked up I am in pain management. I wish I wasn't in pain so I didn't have to be dependant on opiates.... I also wish I didn't have panic attacks so I wasn't deendant on benzos. I admit I get high but frankly I'd rather pay high every now and again than take opiates every day for pain. I am doing a suboxone taper to go off opiates and go to an as needed basis.

I wish you the best of luck, and I truly hope you keep it to a few times a week and that you're careful!
 
I'm not sure that I agree with many of the posters in this thread, but it does sound to me like the advice you are looking for would be impossible for us to give you...

If you're trying to avoid any sort of mental addiction, well, good luck... If you're trying to avoid physical dependence and the withdrawal symptoms, it sounds to me like you're already doing OK.

I use two, maybe three times a week, and my withdrawal symptoms are similar to yours... runny nose, sneezing, cramps... but nothing crippling. It's not at all like the withdrawal symptoms I know heavier users to experience.
 
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I usually say if you do it more than 3 days in a row you risk waking up in withdrawal. But if you spend even 1 day totally clean, that is no physical addiction whatsoever, then the next day you should be able to take heroin and not become physically addicted. So if you take it monday, tuesday and wednesday but not thursday, you can take it friday and not wake up sick saturday. But each time you become physically addicted, the amount of days (or whatever you want to measure it in) needed to get hooked is reduced. So when your w/d's finally cease completely and you are totally clean, you should be able to take heroin and be fine, but if you do it just two days in a row just risk getting hooked again.

This is just how it is for me, you could be different and some people wake up sick the second day and some the twentieth.
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Like you said this is your experience , because whAT Your actually saying has got big flaws in it on lots of levels.

Carry on like this & you will be physically hooked soon .

In reality only a few people can take Heroin without developing a habit.
 
well i smoked 3 spots today which is pretty much nothing i just wanted to see what it would do and it gave me lil buz which lasted maybe 20 min so i do not consider this relapsing do you?
 
if you want to restart on how often you use, a several month break would help more than a 3 day break. then you can try using occasionally again. and if it is like any other addictive drug, after some amount of time you will be back to where you were. often worse.
 
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I'm not sure that I agree with many of the posters in this thread, but it does sound to me like the advice you are looking for would be impossible for us to give you...

If you're trying to avoid any sort of mental addiction, well, good luck... If you're trying to avoid physical dependence and the withdrawal symptoms, it sounds to me like you're already doing OK.

I use two, maybe three times a week, and my withdrawal symptoms are similar to yours... runny nose, sneezing, cramps... but nothing crippling. It's not at all like the withdrawal symptoms I know heavier users to experience.
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And this.
 
People who are just recreational users to an addictive substance on an occasional basis doesn't mean they are fucked... That's just a selfish thing to say.

In any case, tolerance is going to play a factor....

You just need breaks. I mean real breaks. Not every other day, but weekends BREAK... Even longer will be better.

Your tolerance is still going to play out if you use at the rate you are, as well as the rate you plan on.

You will have to resist... What more can we say, the rest is up to you...
 
This guy is trolling right?

If you do heroin enough you will get addicted eventually. There is a failure rate for addiction. It's like rolling a 20 sided die. Eventually you're going to cast lightning bolt.
 
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I don't think so, this is how I think when I've gone back to drugs I've previously had an issue with, or to justify my current useage IMO its all part of the addiction process.

I have no experinace with opiates, but I know I couldnt smoke a single cigarrette ever again no matter how many excvuses I have come up with as to why it would be OK.....I'm still trying to get my head in that place with alcohol but I don;t think I'm there yet...and Benzos..well lets say no more for the time being
 
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