Using an angiotensin receptor blocker (Losartan) with stimulants

[spephspeph]

Would taking a Losartan before stimulant use be wise to stop too much vasoconstriction?

I know beta blockers are a bad idea, but Angiotensin receptor blockers work in a completely different way.

Basically would like to know whether this would be either...

• Prudent
• Useless
• Dangerous

I know the effect with be negated to an extent by the stimulants, but might there be a small useful effect?

Note: I don't take it for blood pressure, there just happens to be some in the house from somebody who used to live here

 

[pasha]

No
Yes
No

ARB's take several weeks to become in fully effective and have many unpleasant side-effects to many heart patients. If your taking this drug for a heart disease, then you shouldn't be taking stimulants in the first place.

 

[spephspeph]

ARB's take several weeks to become in fully effective and have many unpleasant side-effects to many heart patients. If your taking this drug for a heart disease, then you shouldn't be taking stimulants in the first place.

Great, thanks, I'm not.

Anything that would help? Red wine? Magnesium? B vitamins?

 

[blight12]

I am dealing with this annoyance as we speak. Its now a regular companion and i can bear the wost with little frustration even the stabbing pains when i need to use my hands, but the biggest annoyance is my failure that I cant seem to prevent the worst of it, that comes on day 2 or 3, regardless of vitamins food, liquids, dosage, nothing seems related but the time or perhaps lack of sleep but im certain its not these directly. It always arrives day 2 or 3.

I mention this as i find it might be best to avoid them somehow instead. If its possible to feel perfect at any dose on day one, what changes on day 2 or 3. Why cant they be avoided then as well.

I found treating it doesnt work well for me, there is much annoyance besides the cold hands, feet, stabbing pains and cold skin. Treating it seems to warm the skin, but somehow it starts to overheat uncomfortably instead and you still shitty, and sweating badly.

In the spirit of an answer for you as well OP, does anybody have any insight on avoiding this later in the binge, as well as the treatment options? Not trying to hijack or anything, just my experience on this cursed topic.

I cant find the trigger. Day one proves its possible, but how to emulate that first day later on? WTF changes? I tested everything.

Is the worst versions of this, with the pain, constant cold skin, goosflesh, numbness etc, where its not minor like when starting off, normal as always showing up on a binge, for other people, like it does as much with me. Or am i doing something wrong somewhere? I do take bigger doses, but still, if day one was a large dose, its still fine, so why not other days?

 

[pasha]

Great, thanks, I'm not.

Anything that would help? Red wine? Magnesium? B vitamins?

Anything that would help in reducing blood pressure or the side effects of ARB's?