Use advocation

[Legerity]

Interesting thread, this is exactly what has been on my mind lately. I recently met somebody and after a short while I brought up the drug issue, which I somehow assumed would be acceptable but apparently not. Anyways, that ended things, but we said we would stay in touch. She had mentioned being curious and open to trying different drugs, but that she didn't want to be a regular user. So in the back of my mind it's like I'm just hoping that she will ask to get high together (MDMA), but I don't want to influence her to ask me that in the first place. I know if she asked I wouldn't say no. Then I get a bit resentful too because she'll go out and get hammered on the weekend to the point of getting completely sick, but thinks that is somehow more acceptable than psychedelics or MDMA.

But anyways, in the past I have introduced people to speed which I was using heavily at that time, including my then girlfriend and a family member. Both of them developed huge problems with it and I'm not even sure if she is alive now to be honest. Both of them were heavy drug users before trying speed, so I wasn't the one to introduce them to drugs, they were both using way before me, but it's still not a good feeling knowing that I was the one that got them into.

 

[Jesusgreen]

I'll happily give people the pros and cons of the drugs I have taken, and with things like psychedelics I'll whole-heartedly recommend them. I don't bring up drugs around people who don't use/don't agree with them but if they get mentioned I'm usually open about my drug use unless it's a person who could put parts of my life in jeopardy if they wanted to (e.g. Police etc)

I have pictures of me around drugs on my Facebook so nearly everyone who knows me knows that I at the very least smoke weed and know other drug users - and none of them really have a problem with it, some of them would rather I stopped but none of them have judged me for it or stopped associating themselves with me. If there's someone I don't want to know about my drug use, I tell them I don't have a Facebook or I don't accept their add - simple. (My entire FB is set to private)

 

[kalle]

With people who only have smoked weed and drinking alcohol I almost never talk about drugs.
And if i decide to do it anyway I only talk about weed and drinking and never introduce new drugs to the conversation.
Keep in mind that this is with people i meet in person, on the internet I talk to everybody ( when i feel anonymous enough ).

With my drug buddies I often talk about all drugs, pros, cons, safety, experiences, price and so on.

So in short, I don't talk about it because i fear my own safety ( ass raped in prison and unable to get a job ).


And if we go on the political track I say that I'm a libertarian ( which I'm ) and think everybody should have the right to do what they
want with there bodies if it don't harm anyone else.

 

[jamaica0535]

My circle of friends includes a lot of people who like to party and be crazy, and a few of those who associate with us don't actually use drugs....

We pretty much make it clear that we are not going to push anything they don't want to do on them.... But certain experiences, like dropping acid or rolling for their first time and having an amazing evening in a hot tub with friends, if they have the desire to try it there is a standing offer where they would not even have to pay for it.

I tell people my stories, and tell them from my experiences how things have been for me. LSD probably saved my life, it ended years of depression in one night. MDMA made me a far more open, accepting, and loving individual to everyone around me. I learned what love is, and what it truly means to be happy and at peace with ones-self. But in the end it is a personal choice for them to experience these things, and if they desire the experience they will have it with a simple request.

I offer people the experience because the reason i waited so long before doing anything, including smoking pot was no one had ever asked me if i wanted to do drugs. I never had anything against them, just lack of an offer without any real urge to go out and seak drugs.

 

[queenscarlet88]

To the OP: "Advocacy," not "advocation."

To caseface99: you would break up with someone who complained even once about you getting high? My boyfriend started complaining about me smoking weed. I lashed out at first -- but then realized he was right to complain! It wasn't the drug use itself, but the resultant negative changes in my treatment of him. I was behaving in a foggy, moody, short-tempered manner while high, and my love of the drug was blinding me to my behavior.

Categorical, unthinking opposition to any drug use "because it's illegal and wrong!" would indeed chafe from a partner. But not every complaint about someone else getting high stems from this; sometimes such complaints are justified.

First of all i would never date anyone who either didn't use drugs, or at the VERY least was 100% supportive of all of my drug use and promised never to complain that i was getting high even once on pain of breaking up.

As far as acquaintances, i would love nothing more than to convince someone that not all drugs are bad. I will use facts, personal experience, and common sense thinking. But i will never push anyone to try drugs, and will never push anyone to talk about drugs. Also, if its someone whom i know i shouldn't give less of an opinion of me for job reasons or whatever, i will tread very lightly at the beginning of the conversation.

Generally the only drugs anyone should have convince people aren't bad or to try are pot and psychs anyway. Other drugs and you could potentially ruin someones life. Which i regret very much doing in the past and think about all the time, because i am the reason some people do heroin.

 

[jamaica0535]

I encourage psychedelics over things like xanax binges or powerful prescription opioids. God time flys when you don't remember any of it, but they are good for unwinding. And holy shit i want oxycontin for the next 3 days after doing it and it is a rare thing for me to do at all for that reason. This occurred to me that eating more would only make it worse.

But a lot of people miss that memo... Having been around a fairly large number of people that eat way to many prescription pills I can say that they destroy more lives than alcohol, or even most illegal drugs.

 

[chi chi laroux]

i'm pretty open about my drug use. i advocate for intelligent and informed drug use in person and on facebook, and while my profile is set to private, my friends do include non-drug users.

i sometimes bring up drugs first in a conversation, but really, only if it naturally occurs. i do find that most people i talk to have at least some amount of drug experience, even if they're staunch non-users currently. i don't neccessarily encourage people to try drugs if they haven't done so already, but i do talk about my own experiences with various psychedelics, positive and negative. i like people to know that i am responsible with my drug use, and that drugs aren't just for getting wasted, that yeah i get high and party, but i also use some drugs in a therapeutic context (lsd, mdma/mda, 2c-b).

i have turned a helluva lot of people on to drugs, especially lsd, and there have been a few freaky trips, but so far i've never introduced someone to lsd and sent them on a bad trip.

the only person i don't talk about drugs with is my mom. i was really stupid with my drug use as a teenager, and as a result she's got some serious prejudices that i'm not willing to go up against. she knows i have friends who use drugs, she knows i advocate for smart drug use, and she knows about and is okay with me doing pot and shrooms. that's as far as i'm going with her, and that's okay.