USA - Everyone to be liable for drugs found in cars?

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WASHINGTON - When the US Supreme Court announces its decision in a case called Maryland v. Pringle sometime next year, it may become required reading for every American parent with a teenage child.

That's because the court will decide whether police may arrest all passengers riding in a car in which hidden contraband is discovered.

It doesn't matter that your son or daughter does not use narcotics or was unaware narcotics were in the car. The question being presented Monday in oral argument to the nation's highest court is whether people's mere presence in a car where someone has concealed drugs is enough to arrest everyone for possession of those drugs.

"This case has broad implications, especially for those of us with teenaged children," says Sherrie Glasser, an assistant public defender in Baltimore. "My sons frequently get rides home from friends on weekends."

The Fourth Amendment protects against unreasonable searches and seizures in part by requiring that police develop individualized suspicion of illegal conduct prior to arresting someone.

At issue in Maryland v. Pringle is whether the same level of suspicion can be applied equally to everyone in a car containing contraband to justify multiple arrests.

Law-enforcement officials from 21 states and the Justice Department downplay the possibility that unknowing passengers may be swept up in drug busts.

"Individuals involved in drug trafficking are unlikely to carry out their crimes in the immediate company of innocent bystanders, especially within the close confines of an automobile," says US Solicitor General Theodore Olson in a friend-of-the-court brief. "Discovery of contraband in an automobile casts suspicion on all the vehicle's passengers in the crime."

Rather than an innocent teen, the case before the high court involves a far less sympathetic defendant - an admitted crack-cocaine dealer.

The case stems from an August 1999 traffic stop in which a Baltimore County police officer pulls over a car for speeding at 3:16 a.m. The officer discovers $763 in cash and five baggies of crack cocaine concealed inside the vehicle.

Armed with the discovered contraband, the officer threatens to arrest all three occupants of the car unless someone admits to ownership of the drugs and money. After each refuses to confess, the officer takes all three into custody.

Two hours after they arrive at the police station, the front-seat passenger, Joseph Pringle, admits that the drugs and money are his. The police officer releases the driver and the other passenger without charge.

Mr. Pringle was tried, convicted, and sentenced to 10 years in prison for possession of cocaine with intent to distribute. The conviction was upheld on appeal. But the state's highest court, the Court of Appeals of Maryland, reversed the conviction and set Pringle free in a 4-to-3 decision.

The majority ruled that Pringle's arrest was illegal because the arresting officer did not have enough "probable cause" during the roadside stop to link Pringle individually to the drugs.

The cocaine was discovered behind an armrest in the back seat. The wad of cash was found in the glove compartment. At the time of the traffic stop, Pringle was seated in the front passenger seat, and the court reasoned that Pringle was too far away from the concealed drugs in the back seat to support a rational inference by the police officer that the drugs belonged to him.

Without that rational inference at the time of the roadside stop, the Maryland court ruled, the police officer was not justified in arresting Pringle on charges of possession of cocaine.

In their appeal to the US Supreme Court, Maryland law-enforcement officials argue that the police officer had probable cause to arrest all three individuals in the car, not just Pringle.

"It was three o'clock in the morning, a time when few persons are carpooling to work; an inference could be drawn that all three were engaged in a common illicit enterprise," says Gary Bair, Maryland's solicitor general, in his brief to the court.

Mr. Bair says the Maryland court applied too high a standard of evidence to justify an arrest: "This is only probable cause to arrest. This is not proof beyond a reasonable doubt at a trial."

Pringle's lawyer, Ms. Glasser, says the issue is whether police had enough individualized suspicion that the drugs were Pringle's. "What is unique about this case is all you have is mere presence of the passenger," she says. "There is no movement [by passengers to conceal items], no odor of controlled substances."

She adds, "Usually the police do notice something else, even extreme nervousness."

Glasser says that once the police officer found the drugs, he should have done more to build a foundation of probable cause than simply announce that all three would be arrested unless someone confessed. She says he could have closely questioned the driver and passengers about their activities that night. Inconsistencies in answers might have yielded evidence supporting an arrest.

Bair disagrees. "When you have drugs in the back seat of a car, it is an area easily accessible to anyone in the car," he says.

If the Maryland court decision is upheld, Bair says, it will be a windfall to passengers but unfair to drivers, who by virtue of their control over the vehicle may always be arrested when contraband is discovered in the car, even when it belongs to a passenger.

"That's the problem with the Maryland decision. It leaves the police in a very poor posture," Bair says. "Either they can arrest nobody, which doesn't make a lot of sense, or they can only arrest the driver, which doesn't make much sense, either."

DRUGS IN THE CAR, AND NO ONE OWNS UP. IS EVERYONE LIABLE?
Christian Science Monitor
Mon, 03 Nov 2003
by Warren Richey, Staff writer of The C.S.M.



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Sounds to me like a few things are up. First, police too lazy to do their work? Secondly, people afraid to allow freedoms of our laws to apply to dangerous drugs? Thirdly, an attempt to further cause hysteria and fear of drugs, as well as restriction of individual freedoms???

This case reeks of things not good.
 
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round her ewhen i was busted it was if its within arm reach ou can be held liable. wifh in a honda is almost everyone
 
"It was three o'clock in the morning, a time when few persons are carpooling to work; an inference could be drawn that all three were engaged in a common illicit enterprise," says Gary Bair, Maryland's solicitor general, in his brief to the court.

i would really love to know their reasoning behind that one. just because there would only be a few people on the road at that hour, any group of people all in a car must be engaging in illicit activity? i guess we'll see if that holds up in court. i'd like to think not but you never know. because really, how many times have you been out at some ridiculous hour with your friends, in a car, and not been carrying drugs? (its supposed to be more often than carrying for my point to work :p)
 
Heh I was almost arrested a few weeks ago for being in a car with a zip of weed even though i was totally unaware of the weed. It was pretty messed up, dont want to go into details here but I made a long post in life about it.
 
Let's play, "What If..."

What if
the drugs are found tucked in the seat of a passenger jet. I guess that means that everyone on the jet should be arrested. And if they are not, maybe the person who is arrested would be able to demand that everyone on the jet be included in the arrest?

What if
the drugs are found in a suitcase on a commercial busline (Greyhound, for example). I guess that would mean that everyone who was on the bus would be arrested in conjunction with the drug discovery.

What if
the drugs are found on a city bus or subway. I guess that...


200 plus years of civil and criminal law going down the drain. And all because the people currently heading the Department of Judicial don't apparently understand the nature and spirit of the American legal system.

Does anyone remember the species on Star Trek that are morons, and are always going around saying to themselves, "we are smart..." ? When I see changes to the law link this one I always think of them. 8(
 
man, lock em up. he confessed anyways. but wait no,lets let an admitted crack cocaine dealer walk free. somethng seems backwards to me.
 
200 plus years of civil and criminal law going down the drain. And all because the people currently heading the Department of Judicial don't apparently understand the nature and spirit of the American legal system.

excellent response overall. I diddnt think of it that way. I totally agree, that if this applies to cars it applies to all forms of transportation. Hell, if someone is arrested in a taxi, maybe the taxi driver should go down to? What if the driver is arrested, maybe his passengers arrested too?

i think ultimately it is the responsibility of the driver to know if there are drugs in his/her car or not. Not to say if a driver is 'unaware' that he/she should still face charges of posession, but the whole damn car shouldn't go down.
 
if the drugs aren't found on any specific person, how can the police even reasonably infer they belong to anyone currently in the car? if they have to do something, they should just confiscate them, not unneccesarily arrest every occupant.
I hope the word gets out on this one, it's way beyond the rights of law enforcement. If implemented, the amount of police pursuits (foot and vehicular) will likely increase drastically, as everyone in the car will know they are getting arrested.
Police state.
 
Cmon silver, if the cop finds a bunch of crack and money in a car, he should just confiscate it if no one fesses up?? Thats absurd. Its never gonna get to the point where they arrest everyone in the car. If someone takes the blame, the others will always be set free, I dont see that changing. It just seems everyone in this thread thinks that the cop finds a large amount of something, and no one admits to it everyone should be let free?? Am i reading that wrong?

Lets not forget this guy was breaking the law8(
 
I think drugs should be legal. Don't need to state the reasons. Everyone here knows this.

However.....


I just got shot. Didn't see who did it - but three people get into a car and speed off. The cops catch up with them and find the gun in the car. They know SOMEBODY did it. Are you people saying that they can't arrest ANYBODY?

Drugs are illegal. We know this. But anyone who complains that this case is the reason why the legal system is going down the tubes is not appreciating what a tough legal question this is.

Irregardless of whether we think it is a crime, possession of drugs is a crime and basically what you are saying is that you are letting someone get away with commiting one. If someone shot me I would sure as hell want them detaining everyone in that car.

Yeah, I understand that this is a special case... and the police didn't do their work. I have found police to be idiots, always suspicious of every little thing. But what would you do? Let everyone go?

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It just seems everyone in this thread thinks that the cop finds a large amount of something, and no one admits to it everyone should be let free??

Yup, and the cop should return it too, cuz it's none of his damn business what people do in their free time as long as they aren't endangering other members of society.

Obviously, drugs are still 'illegal,' thanks to nonsensical social control laws.

But even acknowledging their illegality, how can you justify arresting everyone? What ever happened to probable cause? I just don't see how being in the same general area as some substance makes everyone liable. I think the plane/train/bus example works well. Granted, those in a car will be acquainted, but inferring guilt on this alone makes 'guilt by association' an officially-legislated crime, according to this law.

Our civil liberties are eroding faster than ever. Don't let it happen.
 
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