US - Young man dead over Marijuana deal in Saint Louis, MO

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Four men have been charged in the shooting death of an UMSL student in north St. Louis.
Authorities have charged 18-year-old Jerry Shelton, 19-year-old TJ Hill, 23-year-old Darrion Landrum and 19-year-old Michael Rosner with 2nd Degree Murder for shooting death of Robert McGartland, 20, on January 19th. McGartland was shot in the chest on the 2000 block of Farrar just before 9 p.m. that day

Rosner and McGartland were the sellers; Hill, Shelton and Landrum the buyers/robbers/murders

I personally knew the victim.
tragic story - violence like this is inexcusable considering the relatively small amount of money involved

I feel awful for the friend who came out of the incident uninjured but is also facing murder charged thanks to the Felony-Murder Clause -
this means that because the sale of Marijuana is a felony act, all involved parties can be held accountable for the murder that took place.

So now on account of the state of our countries current marijuana legislation we have another casualty and 4 young men facing jail time, 3 rightfully so where as another perhaps not.
 
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dead over 16 ounces of pot. And numerous lives ruined. Yeah sad story. Pity they all couldn't buy pot legally huh.
 
2 guys goto sell a pound to 4 others, argument erupts, shots fired, one died, the rest get busted...?
 
I feel awful for the friend who came out of the incident uninjured but is also facing murder charged thanks to the Felony-Murder Clause -
this means that because the sale of Marijuana is a felony act, all involved parties can be held accountable for the murder that took place.

So now on account of the state of our countries current marijuana legislation we have another casualty and 4 young men facing jail time, 3 rightfully so where as another perhaps not.

That is so sick, it is hard to fathom.
It reminds me of those laws like "it is illegal to tie an alligator to a fire hydrant".
How can this be the world we live in?
 
They charged one of the victims with murder huh? I had to double check to make sure it wasn't Florida.

OP just put some of the text of the article in your post next time. 3 years from now the link may die so the thread needs something more than a link.
 
i wondered about that, alot of people seem to shorten articles here and i kinda thought, why not just post the whole story, save everyone checking the link. Not like there is a lack of room to post it all.

It's cool to post the whole article isnt it? What's the point in only copy and posting certain bits, or cutting it down....I just go for the whole thing always, even if it's long.

These things get searched and saved by bots don't they for search engines, so its good to use the whole article yeah?
 
i wondered about that, alot of people seem to shorten articles here and i kinda thought, why not just post the whole story, save everyone checking the link. Not like there is a lack of room to post it all.

It's cool to post the whole article isnt it? What's the point in only copy and posting certain bits, or cutting it down....I just go for the whole thing always, even if it's long.

These things get searched and saved by bots don't they for search engines, so its good to use the whole article yeah?

For a while now it's been asked that people not post full articles. This is unfortunate for the reasons you mentioned, as well as for aesthetic reasons. Hopefully the copyright trolls will vanish soon and we won't have to be cautious about this any more, but over the past year and a half, hundreds of forums just like this one have been sued for tens of thousands of dollars each.

For the really long articles, I guess posting the first page is fine. The tiny articles, I personally post whatever is necessary to convey the gist.
 
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Yep, read that story this am, happened not far from me. Unfortunately that is also in an area particularly ladden with criminal activity, so I'm assuming it's probably got more to do with than just weed from what I'm hearing.
 
Yea East STL aint a place for white college kids to go trying to buy some drugs. I dont think i would risk it having lived in houston/little rock/cali.
 
... they were not in 'East Saint Louis' per say

East Saint Louis colloquially refers to a part of town that is on the Illinois side of the Mississipi.

They were in what is colloquially called North City
 
For a while now it's been asked that people not post full articles. This is unfortunate for the reasons you mentioned, as well as for aesthetic reasons. Hopefully the copyright trolls will vanish soon and we won't have to be cautious about this any more, but over the past year and a half, hundreds of forums just like this one have been sued for tens of thousands of dollars each.

For the really long articles, I guess posting the first page is fine. The tiny articles, I personally post whatever is necessary to convey the gist.

Ok thanks for the reply.. You may wish to edit my threads, and I guess from now on i'll just snip the first few paragraphs, or less... Im heading out right now, but ill try and edit a few when i return.

Cheers, and sorry to be off topic.
 
This kind of violence happens all the time. Robbery is common...

Which makes me think of the War on Drugs. If weed wasn't criminalized, these kids could have bought it at the store, so this would not have happened.

A very good reason cannabis should be legal.

Realistically, cannabis is no worse than alcohol, so why shouldnt it be legal? It could be taxed like tobacco.. I believe it is California
s #1 cash crop. Lots of $ to be made.. The government is stupid as hell for not legalizing the ganja, if they did that it would really help the economy. All those taxes, and a new booming industry. More jobs.

Weed should be legal. WTF are they thinking?
 
Yeah this wasn't on the east side (and yes, that's in ILL); north st. louis city (near the UMSL area) is a very poor urban area, basically you'll have nice, decent people on one street, and the next few streets are gangs and all kinds of crazy violence. East St. Louis is right on par w/ North City though, in a way.
 
Realistically, cannabis is no worse than alcohol, so why shouldnt it be legal? It could be taxed like tobacco.. I believe it is California
s #1 cash crop. Lots of $ to be made.. The government is stupid as hell for not legalizing the ganja, if they did that it would really help the economy. All those taxes, and a new booming industry. More jobs.

It's the number one cash crop over here in AUS as well, too bad the criminal gangs are making all the money from it (tax free of course). Don't know what the fuckers in power think when they allow alcohol and tobacco to be legal and don't let pot make them more tax as well and sell it legally to those who wish to buy it. Its fucking madness!
 
For a while now it's been asked that people not post full articles. This is unfortunate for the reasons you mentioned, as well as for aesthetic reasons. Hopefully the copyright trolls will vanish soon and we won't have to be cautious about this any more, but over the past year and a half, hundreds of forums just like this one have been sued for tens of thousands of dollars each.

For the really long articles, I guess posting the first page is fine. The tiny articles, I personally post whatever is necessary to convey the gist.


Damn, I didnt know our site could be sued for copying & pasting news stories but will keep that in mind next time I post..........
 
This is a newer article about it (over a year later) -

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http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/09/righthaven-on-life-support/
 
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